# I bit the bullet....BIG TIME

**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-bit-the-bullet-big-time/43881
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic
**Created:** [February 22, 2008, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-bit-the-bullet-big-time/43881 "2008-02-22T18:20:21Z")
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### Author: ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)
#### Post date: [February 23, 2008, 4:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-bit-the-bullet-big-time/43881/21 "2008-02-23T04:53:20Z")

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> [@Djs87](#):
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> Got news for ya pal, but the 8800gtx and ultra perform quite a bit better at higher resolutions youll be playing on. I assume 1920x1200. If you play at lower resolutions, the 8800gt IS ON PAR with the gtx and ultra, yes. Blow it away? haha. Also if you have 2 of those 8800gt cards, youll definitely want that q6600 at at least 3.0 1333. But with only one 8800gt, im sure 2.4 1066 will suffice, in terms of “no bottleneck”. If you did nearly as much research as you claimed, youd have waited till mid march to get a 9 series card. That or at least wait until they were released so your 8 series card would have been cheaper. Its a nice pc yes, but i really hope you didnt pay more than say…$1400 on it.

Hmmm…

 ![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/scarfa21/11934320437hJEaa11AU_4_6.gif](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/3/5/35f60bad24f69438cae15fb9c723f4b73df9a46e.gif)

Anyways, ram can be overclocked if i wanted, no problems there

Some comments on the 9600GT

The GeForce 8800 GT was faster than the BFGTech GeForce 9600 GT OC by a large margin in Crysis. With the GeForce 8800 GT we could have all of those options on the GeForce 9600 GT turned on “High” plus the shaders quality set to “High.” Setting the shaders quality to “High” makes the most significant impact in the gameplay experience in Crysis. The BFGTech GeForce 9600 GT OC didn’t have the performance to enable this setting to “High” at 1280x1024, even with everything else on “Medium.” The GeForce 8800 GT however does allow this setting to be enabled, along with the texture, volumetric effects, and water all set to “High.”

Any way you slice it, the BFGTech GeForce 9600 GT OC allows a more enjoyable experience in Crysis compared to the Radeon HD 3850 and Radeon HD 3870. The GeForce 8800 GT however, offers a better experience than the BFGTech GeForce 9600 GT OC by a large amount, due to shader count no doubt.

Performance versus the 8800 GT

In our testing the GeForce 8800 GT was faster than the BFGTech GeForce 9600 GT OC in every game. In the case of Crysis we saw the most advantage for gameplay with the 8800 GT allowing us to enable “High” shaders quality at 1280x1024. In some games though, like COD 4, and UT3 the improvement wasn’t as big, but it was still there.

Its ok man, Looks like my research is just fine. The 8800 was cheap anyways.

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### Author: ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)
#### Post date: [February 23, 2008, 4:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-bit-the-bullet-big-time/43881/22 "2008-02-23T04:54:59Z")

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> [@neurokinetik](#):
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> Everything looks pretty good to me, but I would have went with a Core 2 Duo E8400 over the quad, mostly because too few apps that I use are optimized for the quad and actually run faster on a higher clocked dual. Plus the lower power consumption of the Wolfdale core allows the flexibility of overclocking and near-silent operation. It depends on what you plan to use it for, really. For a HTPC and gaming machine, I’d go dual. For more office stuff/or heavy video encoding, I’d go quad.
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> Hey, at least now you can play COD 4 PROPERLY… not to mention Crysis.

The only core 2 that was an option was the E6850. I wasnt sure on that, it was a toss up. Ill be fine im sure, no problems playing/doing whatever.

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### Author: ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)
#### Post date: [February 23, 2008, 4:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-bit-the-bullet-big-time/43881/23 "2008-02-23T04:56:17Z")

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> [@camarojoe](#):
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> Should have hit me up. I can get pretty good pricing on Dell computers. They usually let me price match or less any system they offer. In most cases as least.
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> Nice system though.

shit joe, i didnt even know. Can you take dell credit cards?

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### Author: ![Joe\_Omerta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Joe\_Omerta](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe_Omerta)
#### Post date: [February 23, 2008, 5:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-bit-the-bullet-big-time/43881/24 "2008-02-23T05:23:32Z")

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i run a dell 24" monitor. doom 3 high quality and ut2k4 high quality, 1920x1200 res, no AA or AF, but it runs very smooth and looks great on a bfg6800gs o/c agp 8X. so i’m sure the 8800gt will be plenty sufficient for any game out there now.

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### Author: ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)
#### Post date: [February 23, 2008, 5:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-bit-the-bullet-big-time/43881/25 "2008-02-23T05:28:24Z")

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yeah im not even worried about it to be honest. Its faster than what i have now and i can play alot on this system as it is. But i also do alot of encoding of movies to stream to the xbox, which should be alot better also.

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### Author: ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)
#### Post date: [February 23, 2008, 5:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-bit-the-bullet-big-time/43881/26 "2008-02-23T05:31:04Z")

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oh the Q6600 will make encoding a fucking snap. :tspry:

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### Author: ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)
#### Post date: [February 23, 2008, 5:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-bit-the-bullet-big-time/43881/27 "2008-02-23T05:45:24Z")

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> [@Nikuk](#):
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> oh the Q6600 will make encoding a fucking snap. :tspry:

Ohh and that belarc advisor has been on this pc for a while, i love that tool!!!

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### Author: ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)
#### Post date: [February 23, 2008, 5:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-bit-the-bullet-big-time/43881/28 "2008-02-23T05:55:57Z")

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very nice brother :tup: you wont be disappointed with either the processor or the GPU… both are the best bang for the buck you can get right now IMO

enjoy it 🍺

edit: why not dual boot XP and Vista? With a beast of a rig like that, vista should run just as smooth/fast as XP

I was a vista hater, but since I tried it and started running DX10, you couldn’t pay me to go back

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### Author: ![IWantaSupra](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/iwantasupra/32/7222_2.png) [@IWantaSupra](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/IWantaSupra)
#### Post date: [February 23, 2008, 6:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-bit-the-bullet-big-time/43881/29 "2008-02-23T06:37:59Z")

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Awesome computer. I needed a new PC, and decided to not build one again. I got a refurbished HP laptop for $1000 with 2.0ghz dual-core, 17" LCD, 2gb ram, 320gb hd, 8600gs m. Has no problems playing Source/BF2/R6 Vegas on high, which is all I wanted.

[http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3525670&CatId=2511](http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3525670&CatId=2511)

The first thing I did was format it. Mine had THREE rows of bloat ware on my desktop. It wouldnt let me format with XP or my own copy of Vista. I had to use Linux to format.

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### Author: ![camarojoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c67d28/32.png) [@camarojoe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/camarojoe)
#### Post date: [February 23, 2008, 7:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-bit-the-bullet-big-time/43881/30 "2008-02-23T07:20:17Z")

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> [@BuickGN](#):
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> shit joe, i didnt even know. Can you take dell credit cards?

We take regular credit cards, but not Dell exclusive credit cards.

Next time, right? 🙂

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### Author: ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)
#### Post date: [February 23, 2008, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-bit-the-bullet-big-time/43881/31 "2008-02-23T07:54:28Z")

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sure man, i didnt even know lol

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### Author: ![Rsnake91](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rsnake91/32/4996_2.png) [@Rsnake91](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rsnake91)
#### Post date: [February 23, 2008, 8:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-bit-the-bullet-big-time/43881/32 "2008-02-23T08:42:31Z")

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lol jesus buick… nice…

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### Author: ![turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_ls1_ss/32/7303_2.png) [@turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbo_ls1_ss)
#### Post date: [February 23, 2008, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-bit-the-bullet-big-time/43881/33 "2008-02-23T08:43:18Z")

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WOW, I UNDERSTOOD 4 WORDS IN THIS THREAD!

good job kev

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### Author: ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)
#### Post date: [February 23, 2008, 8:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-bit-the-bullet-big-time/43881/34 "2008-02-23T08:49:01Z")

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lol bring your laptop in tomorrow Bill, ill look at it for ya.

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### Author: ![turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_ls1_ss/32/7303_2.png) [@turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbo_ls1_ss)
#### Post date: [February 23, 2008, 8:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-bit-the-bullet-big-time/43881/35 "2008-02-23T08:52:21Z")

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you work sundays now? 🙂

i will

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### Author: ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)
#### Post date: [February 23, 2008, 8:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-bit-the-bullet-big-time/43881/36 "2008-02-23T08:54:59Z")

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ohh crap, lol not yet at least 🙂

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### Author: ![Djs87](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/djs87/32/5132_2.png) [@Djs87](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Djs87)
#### Post date: [February 23, 2008, 9:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-bit-the-bullet-big-time/43881/37 "2008-02-23T09:40:28Z")

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buickgn,

nowhere on that chart did it show a gt comparison to a GTX or ultra. It showed to a gts and an ati card, but not a gtx or ultra. The 8800gt is better than the old gts cards sure, but the new g92 gts has a slight edge over it as well. Maybe only 2-3 fps in game. Show some benchmarks that have an 8800gt “blow away” an 8800gtx or ultra at high resolution high AA settings. You wont.

Also, theres no point in overclocking your ram. You need to get the FSB of your cpu up to speed first. 1066/4 = 266.5/400. Meaning theres still room for your fsb to be overclock before you even consider overclocking ram. OCing the ram is just a huge waste, unless your fsb is 1600 or higher.

Dont get me wrong. Im not bashing your pc. Its pretty sweet. The 8800gt is by far the best bang for the buck out there now. The q6600 is damn future proof too (at least in pc terms. Probably good for a 1-2 years in the way of high end gaming). Just get yourself a nice zalman copper hs, some mx2 and get that bitch up to 3.0 or better!

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### Author: ![Jack](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jack/32/7613_2.png) [@Jack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jack)
#### Post date: [February 24, 2008, 10:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-bit-the-bullet-big-time/43881/38 "2008-02-24T10:03:42Z")

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I’m with Djs87 on this one… the 8800GT is nice, but doesn’t compete with the GTX or the Ultra. I think you meant the GTS… but even that case is debatable.

Sweet rig. You’ll luv the monitor.

A buddy of mine is running 2 Ultras in SLI with the 24 and its freaking amazing.

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### Author: ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)
#### Post date: [February 24, 2008, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-bit-the-bullet-big-time/43881/39 "2008-02-24T11:03:58Z")

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lol ohh well then, ill still be fast as shit, no matter what card i chose. Ill run some real benchmarks when i get it, not synthetic crap either.

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### Author: ![Djs87](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/djs87/32/5132_2.png) [@Djs87](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Djs87)
#### Post date: [February 24, 2008, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-bit-the-bullet-big-time/43881/40 "2008-02-24T11:26:48Z")

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Ya man, it just depends on what kind of settings you expect out of your games. Those raptor hds freakin fly (noisy/hot but fast as hell). That with the quad and youll have an overall fast pc. Have you considered a zalman hs/fan and trying some overclocking? Only downside of that is the warranty goes bye bye then. But obviously 2.4 1066 to 3.0 1333 (a very modest overclock if its G0 stepping believe it or not) will show a substantial performance increase. Think about it.

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