# i dont know if its on here already **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [April 3, 2009, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-dont-know-if-its-on-here-already/65577 "2009-04-03T07:27:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![sonson\_jdmvtek](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sonson_jdmvtek/32/5269_2.png) [@sonson\_jdmvtek](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sonson_jdmvtek)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-dont-know-if-its-on-here-already/65577/1 "2009-04-03T07:27:11Z")
i want to know if anyone knows the difference from a sir b16 to a gsr like the horsepower and torque and which is better ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-dont-know-if-its-on-here-already/65577/2 "2009-04-03T07:42:14Z")
[honda-tech.com](http://honda-tech.com) [google.com](http://google.com) EDIT: sorry for being a dick. DBL EDIT: http://asian\_e.tripod.com/Honda\_Engine\_Specs.htm 2 second google search TRPL EDIT: The SIR tranny appears to have LSD if your looking at a complete swap… but the gsr b18c’s can be had wayy cheaper I assume. ---
**Author:** ![sonson\_jdmvtek](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sonson_jdmvtek/32/5269_2.png) [@sonson\_jdmvtek](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sonson_jdmvtek)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-dont-know-if-its-on-here-already/65577/3 "2009-04-03T11:23:32Z")
thank you it helped!!:headbang: ---
**Author:** ![clinzee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/clinzee/32/5233_2.png) [@clinzee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/clinzee)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-dont-know-if-its-on-here-already/65577/4 "2009-04-03T11:32:46Z")
Displacement obviously too. ---
**Author:** ![ieatpaint](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ieatpaint/32/7311_2.png) [@ieatpaint](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ieatpaint)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-dont-know-if-its-on-here-already/65577/5 "2009-04-03T15:09:44Z")
worst thread title everrrrr. gsr has more potential in my opinion. whats the goals for the car? ---
**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-dont-know-if-its-on-here-already/65577/6 "2009-04-03T15:26:10Z")
sir b16 is a POS worst vtec cams, it’s a cable tranny, the compression is the same as a jdm b18c, less displacement, less torque, will rev the same as a b18c. but a b16 is a lot cheaper ---
**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-dont-know-if-its-on-here-already/65577/7 "2009-04-03T15:29:02Z")
> [@maxwell](#): > > [honda-tech.com](http://honda-tech.com) > > [google.com](http://google.com) > > EDIT: sorry for being a dick. > > DBL EDIT: http://asian\_e.tripod.com/Honda\_Engine\_Specs.htm 2 second google search > > TRPL EDIT: The SIR tranny appears to have LSD if your looking at a complete swap… but the gsr b18c’s can be had wayy cheaper I assume. sir’s came with the b16a not a b16b, which is what i think you are referring to. only CTR’s came with the b16b, but if you’re going to get a b16b you might as well just get a ITR motor for an extra 5hundo