# I hate decisions and money
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-hate-decisions-and-money/91865
**Category:** SON240sx Off Topic
**Created:** [January 13, 2006, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-hate-decisions-and-money/91865 "2006-01-13T07:17:55Z")
**Posts on this page:** 12
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### Author:  [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)
#### Post date: [January 13, 2006, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-hate-decisions-and-money/91865/1 "2006-01-13T07:17:55Z")
something els i have been thining about doing is geting
550’s
Safc2
Tuned Ecu
Z32max
and my t28BB(s15)
Now I know this is an alright setup, but if I could not afford the ecu right away would it be alright to run everything els with the Safc2?\>? problems that may come about?? Any one els run this?? Dyno tunes??
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### Author:  [@Happy240sx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Happy240sx)
#### Post date: [January 13, 2006, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-hate-decisions-and-money/91865/2 "2006-01-13T08:00:16Z")
You’re fine with the SAFC… it’s a budget setup but it works.
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### Author:  [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)
#### Post date: [January 13, 2006, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-hate-decisions-and-money/91865/3 "2006-01-13T08:02:46Z")
Ya that is why I would want to get the tuned ECU after and then use the Safc for fine tuning, I just wanted to make sure things would work well untill I could get it, I would still get a wide tune on a dyno even with just the safc to make sure it was the best it could be, you knowlike GI JO
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### Author:  [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)
#### Post date: [January 13, 2006, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-hate-decisions-and-money/91865/4 "2006-01-13T10:01:17Z")
save
do it all at once.
i did that, it was bananas.
then i blew the T28 i had… only buy turbos new… buying used is asking for disaster.
no dyno pulls but no speed limited is fun fun fun
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### Author:  [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)
#### Post date: [January 13, 2006, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-hate-decisions-and-money/91865/5 "2006-01-13T10:10:21Z")
well I can not nessessarly wate, I have to get the car on the road in the spring, if I can do it I will but at the moment looking a little tight,
I already have a T28, used but in good condition, I do not have another $1000 to get a new one.
so I am doing the best I can with what I have, also I really do not drive as hard as a lot of other people here.
I figure it will be a nice set up and when I get an ecu that will be plus and play and then ill just go back to the dyno and get a professional to fix the minor adjustment on the SAFC, I figure since I am getting someone with experence to even do that it will make a big difference with how my car will run.
i just wanted to make sure this was going to be " all GOOD BOIIIII"
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### Author:  [@DTS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DTS)
#### Post date: [January 13, 2006, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-hate-decisions-and-money/91865/6 "2006-01-13T13:08:23Z")
ya used turbos are balls my used t28 bb blew aswell
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### Author:  [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)
#### Post date: [January 13, 2006, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-hate-decisions-and-money/91865/7 "2006-01-13T13:14:26Z")
benson, my T28 was from a respected member as well, it appeared to be great.
your will blow if you try to run a bunch of boost through it. shaft play is no indication, its the seals.
i say keep the engine stock, get an SAFC and run 9 - 10 psi on the T28 and have the car wideband tuned
the mafs and injectors will max around 250rwhp and you can get a slightly accurate measure of where you are by looking at the AFL on your safc…
i had this set up for a month or so until i maxed the mafs… it was fun.
T25 spooled faster though, but the T28 keeps going till 7500, if your mafs isnt maxed yyet
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### Author:  [@Happy240sx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Happy240sx)
#### Post date: [January 13, 2006, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-hate-decisions-and-money/91865/8 "2006-01-13T13:15:22Z")
Well - if your ecu tuner is any good there is no reason why you should need a SAFC aswell. Therefore, it is my opinion that you need EITHER an safc (cheaper) or a tuned ecu – not both.
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### Author:  [@DTS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DTS)
#### Post date: [January 13, 2006, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-hate-decisions-and-money/91865/9 "2006-01-13T13:24:49Z")
injectors max out around 92-93% maf useage
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### Author:  [@lewtz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/lewtz)
#### Post date: [January 13, 2006, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-hate-decisions-and-money/91865/10 "2006-01-13T13:46:55Z")
I was thinking of doing the same thing, but I’m putting in a GT32 because used turbos are a nightmare.
Keep the t25 in, i was running it to the max at 16 psi, and the duty cycle on the stock injectors was only around 60%, my car was putting out somewhere near 275rwhp. But of course I don’t have to worry about maxing out the mafs, as I am running a standalone.
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### Author:  [@Happy240sx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Happy240sx)
#### Post date: [January 13, 2006, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-hate-decisions-and-money/91865/11 "2006-01-13T18:58:11Z")
> [@dvstr](#):
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> Keep the t25 in, i was running it to the max at 16 psi, and the duty cycle on the stock injectors was only around 60%, my car was putting out somewhere near 275rwhp.
That just don’t sound right!! Also - are you MAP based now?
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### Author:  [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)
#### Post date: [January 13, 2006, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-hate-decisions-and-money/91865/12 "2006-01-13T19:32:40Z")
yeah i am pretty sure that both the turbo and mafs max out before then.
and even still, you would need one hell of a tune to be running over 250rwhp on a T25… like seriously, someone who really really knew what they were doing must have done that.
i doubt such a person exists in ontario.