# I have an experiment for anyone who didn't think the plane will take off **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [February 15, 2006, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-have-an-experiment-for-anyone-who-didnt-think-the-plane-will-take-off/8217 "2006-02-15T19:21:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2006, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-have-an-experiment-for-anyone-who-didnt-think-the-plane-will-take-off/8217/301 "2006-12-06T13:11:13Z")
> [@JEG](#): > > Um…How can a stationary aircraft suddenly go into the air when NO wind is creating lift under the wings? read newtons second, third laws, and take a class in fluids and come back ---
**Author:** ![Rx3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rx3/32/7194_2.png) [@Rx3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rx3)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2006, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-have-an-experiment-for-anyone-who-didnt-think-the-plane-will-take-off/8217/302 "2006-12-06T13:16:01Z")
> [@sureshot007](#): > > I thought Dracula was (un)dead? Exactly 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2006, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-have-an-experiment-for-anyone-who-didnt-think-the-plane-will-take-off/8217/303 "2006-12-06T13:16:38Z")
> [@JEG](#): > > Um…How can a stationary aircraft suddenly go into the air when NO wind is creating lift under the wings? the plane will never be stationary the original question never states that the runway will move fast enough to cause the drag of the wheels to force the plane to stay stationary the original problem simply states that the runway will move backwards as fast as the plane moves FORWARDS the original problem states the plane will move forward (it would have to, otherwise the treadmills speed wouldnt increase) planes which move forward generate lift planes that generate lift will fly ---
**Author:** ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2006, 1:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-have-an-experiment-for-anyone-who-didnt-think-the-plane-will-take-off/8217/304 "2006-12-06T13:19:43Z")
Ahhh gotchya. ---
**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2006, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-have-an-experiment-for-anyone-who-didnt-think-the-plane-will-take-off/8217/305 "2006-12-06T13:22:44Z")
exactly, F=M\*a, there will be a force on the air because of a acceleration of the air through the jet, than there is for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction(lamemans translation), meaning since the jet is acting on the air, the air is going to be acting on the jet causing movement, and since there will be a forward movement, there will be a reactive force on the wing forcing the plane to fly ---
**Author:** ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2006, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-have-an-experiment-for-anyone-who-didnt-think-the-plane-will-take-off/8217/306 "2006-12-06T13:23:15Z")
the ONLY POSSIBLE limiting factor is if the planes wheels / axles / bearings cause sooooo much drag that the plane ran out of power to speed up further ---
**Author:** ![RedGoober4Life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redgoober4life/32/7610_2.png) [@RedGoober4Life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedGoober4Life)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2006, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-have-an-experiment-for-anyone-who-didnt-think-the-plane-will-take-off/8217/307 "2006-12-06T13:33:15Z")
if energy cannot be created or destroyed, then where did energy come from? ---
**Author:** ![TurdBlown\_Teg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/59ef9b/32.png) [@TurdBlown\_Teg](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurdBlown_Teg)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2006, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-have-an-experiment-for-anyone-who-didnt-think-the-plane-will-take-off/8217/308 "2006-12-06T13:34:52Z")
how about you take the wheels off the jet and see if it flys then… problem solved. ---
**Author:** ![ILCisDEAD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a87d85/32.png) [@ILCisDEAD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILCisDEAD)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2006, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-have-an-experiment-for-anyone-who-didnt-think-the-plane-will-take-off/8217/309 "2006-12-06T13:57:10Z")
I don’t believe this thread… either everyone is a sarcastic asshole, or this is the dumbest group of people ever. kevin716 has the right idea ---
**Author:** ![RedGoober4Life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redgoober4life/32/7610_2.png) [@RedGoober4Life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedGoober4Life)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2006, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-have-an-experiment-for-anyone-who-didnt-think-the-plane-will-take-off/8217/310 "2006-12-06T14:01:40Z")
temper temper temper the conveyor belt loves all people. it gave us its only son who died for our sins. ---
**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2006, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-have-an-experiment-for-anyone-who-didnt-think-the-plane-will-take-off/8217/311 "2006-12-06T14:30:10Z")
> [@RedGoober4Life](#): > > if energy cannot be created or destroyed, then where did energy come from? god had gas one day… ---
**Author:** ![sureshot007](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot007/32/7345_2.png) [@sureshot007](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot007)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2006, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-have-an-experiment-for-anyone-who-didnt-think-the-plane-will-take-off/8217/312 "2006-12-06T15:55:22Z")
> [@ILCisDEAD](#): > > …this is the dumbest group of people ever. I think you might be on to something there… ---
**Author:** ![Rx3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rx3/32/7194_2.png) [@Rx3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rx3)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2006, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-have-an-experiment-for-anyone-who-didnt-think-the-plane-will-take-off/8217/313 "2006-12-06T16:26:39Z")
Leave the bluepills alone. ---
**Author:** ![RedGoober4Life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redgoober4life/32/7610_2.png) [@RedGoober4Life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedGoober4Life)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2006, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-have-an-experiment-for-anyone-who-didnt-think-the-plane-will-take-off/8217/314 "2006-12-06T16:29:40Z")
Rick. Find your Pepperidge Farm bread lately? ---
**Author:** ![FightinMike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7bcc69/32.png) [@FightinMike](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/FightinMike)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2006, 5:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-have-an-experiment-for-anyone-who-didnt-think-the-plane-will-take-off/8217/315 "2006-12-06T17:45:25Z")
> [@RedGoober4Life](#): > > Why do you know this? :poke: Ive taken a LOT of math and physics courses, been to alot of airshows, know a guy that works on planes for a living, and understand (basically) the mechanics of modern aircrafts and their underlying principles. Edit: I refuse to beleive in this “conveyor belt” until you show me proof of this conveyor belts existence. I say it’s owners manual was written by humans, not the conveyor belt, so unless you have hard evidence I refuse to say it exists. ---
**Author:** ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2006, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-have-an-experiment-for-anyone-who-didnt-think-the-plane-will-take-off/8217/316 "2006-12-06T19:17:38Z")
So does the conveyor move if you have two planes facing away from each other taking off? And what if the conveyor wants to fly, that poor conveyor belt. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2006, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-have-an-experiment-for-anyone-who-didnt-think-the-plane-will-take-off/8217/317 "2006-12-06T19:50:57Z")
What if the airplane is on a conveyer belt in a wind tunnel whose wind is constantly blowing at the same speed and direction as the conveyer belt? ---
**Author:** ![TurdBlown\_Teg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/59ef9b/32.png) [@TurdBlown\_Teg](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurdBlown_Teg)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2006, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-have-an-experiment-for-anyone-who-didnt-think-the-plane-will-take-off/8217/318 "2006-12-06T19:57:38Z")
what i said! no wheels and the answere should be there. ---
**Author:** ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2006, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-have-an-experiment-for-anyone-who-didnt-think-the-plane-will-take-off/8217/319 "2006-12-06T19:58:01Z")
Obviously the tunnel would take off, duh. ---
**Author:** ![TurdBlown\_Teg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/59ef9b/32.png) [@TurdBlown\_Teg](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurdBlown_Teg)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2006, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-have-an-experiment-for-anyone-who-didnt-think-the-plane-will-take-off/8217/320 "2006-12-06T20:08:38Z")
> [@BikerFry](#): > > What if the airplane is on a conveyer belt in a wind tunnel whose wind is constantly blowing at the same speed and direction as the conveyer belt? the plane will take off… it would rule out the conveyer belt and create lift. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-have-an-experiment-for-anyone-who-didnt-think-the-plane-will-take-off/8217.md?page=15) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-have-an-experiment-for-anyone-who-didnt-think-the-plane-will-take-off/8217.md?page=17)