# I have Zero ideas about bikes or associated values..NEED HELP!

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**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [September 28, 2013, 6:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-have-zero-ideas-about-bikes-or-associated-values-need-help/233028 "2013-09-28T06:25:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2013, 10:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-have-zero-ideas-about-bikes-or-associated-values-need-help/233028/21 "2013-09-30T10:06:15Z")

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> [@2TurboZ](#):
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> It is an exceptionally rare car. However I do not need the cash, I wouldnt hate the cash with house mods taking over my “extra” money.
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> I was hoping to trade it for something I could use on a regular basis. If it does not sell, it is fine by me.
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> Just trying to be mildly practical.

People keep trying to trade you shit however :lol:

LT1 F-body :lol: :lol:

beat ass bike :lol: :lol:

Maybe you can pick up a older evo on trade? seems like a cross over market for a lexus.

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**Author:** ![benmtx5](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc29f/32.png) [@benmtx5](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/benmtx5)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-have-zero-ideas-about-bikes-or-associated-values-need-help/233028/22 "2013-10-01T21:28:36Z")

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junk dont do it

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**Author:** ![2TurboZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2turboz/32/7577_2.png) [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-have-zero-ideas-about-bikes-or-associated-values-need-help/233028/23 "2013-10-01T21:36:51Z")

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> [@LZ](#):
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> People keep trying to trade you shit however :lol:
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> LT1 F-body :lol: :lol:
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> beat ass bike :lol: :lol:
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> Maybe you can pick up a older evo on trade? seems like a cross over market for a lexus.

Try is different than succeed.

I ask the questions on here because I dont know what I do not know and I do not want to assume so I figure there are enough people on here familiar with market trends/cars/bikes/trucks that I do not know the true market value of.

If I was 100% Oh Shit, that is cool, I want it…then I wouldnt care about the $

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**Author:** ![2TurboZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2turboz/32/7577_2.png) [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-have-zero-ideas-about-bikes-or-associated-values-need-help/233028/24 "2014-01-08T14:07:54Z")

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TTT

Still have the lexus and yet another trade offer for something I know very little about.

Details:

Orange County Chopper Built  
1977 Harley Iron Head Motor 1000cc  
12k on the odometer  
New Electronic Ignition and Sprockets  
Rims are apparently new and about 1k each  
Blue with alot of chrome…some scallops and a cowboy on a horse airbrush on the tank.  
Paughco Rigid frame

Pics:

[![http://i1338.photobucket.com/albums/o690/KyleB25/ResizedImage951389205974851_zps5d1863c8.jpg](http://i1338.photobucket.com/albums/o690/KyleB25/ResizedImage951389205974851_zps5d1863c8.jpg)](http://s1338.photobucket.com/user/KyleB25/media/ResizedImage951389205974851_zps5d1863c8.jpg.html)

[![http://i1338.photobucket.com/albums/o690/KyleB25/ResizedImage951389205965985_zps22caa33b.jpg](http://i1338.photobucket.com/albums/o690/KyleB25/ResizedImage951389205965985_zps22caa33b.jpg)](http://s1338.photobucket.com/user/KyleB25/media/ResizedImage951389205965985_zps22caa33b.jpg.html)

[![http://i1338.photobucket.com/albums/o690/KyleB25/ResizedImage951389205956050_zpsd295405d.jpg](http://i1338.photobucket.com/albums/o690/KyleB25/ResizedImage951389205956050_zpsd295405d.jpg)](http://s1338.photobucket.com/user/KyleB25/media/ResizedImage951389205956050_zpsd295405d.jpg.html)

Also have a few vids of it…sounds strong…good lope…very standard Harley Sound IMO.

What do you bike knowledgeable guys think this is worth and would any of you be interested in buying it?

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**Author:** ![XwalkerX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xwalkerx/32/7598_2.png) [@XwalkerX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/XwalkerX)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-have-zero-ideas-about-bikes-or-associated-values-need-help/233028/25 "2014-01-08T15:12:27Z")

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3-4k and not a chance.

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**Author:** ![2TurboZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2turboz/32/7577_2.png) [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-have-zero-ideas-about-bikes-or-associated-values-need-help/233028/26 "2014-01-08T15:14:51Z")

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What is that based on? I am only curious since I know nothing about them.

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 3:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-have-zero-ideas-about-bikes-or-associated-values-need-help/233028/27 "2014-01-08T15:38:20Z")

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I don’t have a clue, but i’d take Walkers words with some weight. He knows his way around the old Harleys.

If it were me, I wouldn’t.

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**Author:** ![2TurboZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2turboz/32/7577_2.png) [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-have-zero-ideas-about-bikes-or-associated-values-need-help/233028/28 "2014-01-08T15:54:42Z")

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I agree. I am glad he responded. I am just curious why some bring a ton of money and some are very cheap. Never hurts to get a little education

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**Author:** ![XwalkerX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xwalkerx/32/7598_2.png) [@XwalkerX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/XwalkerX)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-have-zero-ideas-about-bikes-or-associated-values-need-help/233028/29 "2014-01-08T17:53:10Z")

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ok so i was pressed for time when i initially responded so ill dive in with some more detail here…

ironheads.  
one of harleys longest running production engines and prob one of the least desireable.  
commonly referred to as “troubleheads” because you usually end up spending more time working on them than riding.  
regardless the basic core of the bike to start with isnt anything special.  
electronic ignition is a plus at least.  
i cant make out what carb is on there either?

frame and title issues.  
so being a 77 it should have a swingarm harley frame that will have the vin stamped into the headtube AND the engine. without the vin stamped frame youre going to run into title issues unless its already titled in NY as a special construction. if it is still a harley title the seller should have an MSO (manufacture’s statement of origin) for the frame which comes with all paughco frames to begin with. that way if you take it to get inspected and they hit you with not having the proper frame you will bet your ass you need that MSO to show the DMV inspection station.

front end.  
its a bigtwin front end retrofitted to a sportster. basically just looks ridiculous on there. the front end itself isnt really that bad. a lot of guys look for wideglides and lots of those same guys love shiney stuff lol.

the wheels.  
looks like a standard 21 front wheel off a newer bike. the rear is def an upgrade since i dont think ironheads ever came with rear discs and its not a big twin wheel since the driveline is on the right side. perhaps nabbed from the same parts bike the front wheel came from. regardless $1k each is ludacris and if he did pay that im willing to bet he has more money than sense.

exhaust.  
looks like some standard lame catalog purchase that belongs on a early 2000 long bike with a 300 series rear wheel.

tank/fenders/light/sissy/seat/bars/controls  
nothing really special here. just shiney stuff.

if this in fact is a OCC bike i really cringe at what they charged this dope to slap this together.  
at the end of the day i stand by my 3-4k assessment for current real market value

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> [@2TurboZ](#):
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> I agree. I am glad he responded. I am just curious why some bring a ton of money and some are very cheap. Never hurts to get a little education

and to chime in on this.

money bikes are vintage big twins.

the older they are the better, and obviously the untouched ones bring the most cash. (think barn finds)  
aside from the early early early production stuff (1900-1930’s) you want to look for these…

Flathead, 1930–1948 (1,200 cc) and 1935–1941 (1,300 cc).  
Knucklehead, 1936–1947 61 cubic inch (1,000 cc), and 1941–1947 74 cubic inch (1,200 cc)  
Panhead, 1948–1965 61 cubic inch (1,000 cc), and 1948–1965, 74 cubic inch (1,200 cc)  
Shovelhead, 1966–1984, 74 cubic inch (1,200 cc) and 80 cubic inch (1,338 cc) since late 1978

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**Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-have-zero-ideas-about-bikes-or-associated-values-need-help/233028/30 "2014-01-08T21:02:38Z")

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Walker nailed it. And 1k a piece for wheels. Lol

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**Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-have-zero-ideas-about-bikes-or-associated-values-need-help/233028/31 "2014-01-08T21:39:18Z")

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This is why I ask you guys.

Thank you. I would have just “assumed” that Harley and O.C.C would be names of perceived value.

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**Post date:** [January 9, 2014, 6:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-have-zero-ideas-about-bikes-or-associated-values-need-help/233028/32 "2014-01-09T06:04:38Z")

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Fuck no

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Sorry forgot to state reason - Because it’s slow and ugly. Slow is a fact, ugly is my personal opinion

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**Post date:** [January 9, 2014, 3:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-have-zero-ideas-about-bikes-or-associated-values-need-help/233028/33 "2014-01-09T15:20:40Z")

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I can build you a cooler bike than that for 4k. Without all the Erie county fair air brushing.

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