# I love the smell of

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-love-the-smell-of/177362>\
**Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [September 29, 2005, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-love-the-smell-of/177362 "2005-09-29T11:17:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2005, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-love-the-smell-of/177362/41 "2005-09-30T12:31:37Z")

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> [@JDMCivicSm21](#):
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> Agreed for performance, but if it was superior in every aspect we wouldnt have FWD cars. FWD is far superior in cost, weight, gas mileage,packaging, space and traction in the snow.
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> Nice rubber to burn up at beaverun:).

wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, and finally wrong.

fwd was a stupid fucking idea from the beginning and has absolutely no befefit over a rwd.

Why are all the manufacturers going to rwd again?

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**Author:** ![Storamin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@Storamin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Storamin)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2005, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-love-the-smell-of/177362/42 "2005-09-30T12:34:49Z")

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> [@JDMCivicSm21](#):
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> FWD is far superior in cost, weight, gas mileage,packaging, space and traction in the snow.

not really…

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**Author:** ![OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/olds_rocketman/32/5942_2.png) [@OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OLDS_ROCKETMAN)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2005, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-love-the-smell-of/177362/43 "2005-09-30T12:35:48Z")

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> [@77rednecktruck](#):
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> fwd was a stupid fucking idea from the beginning and has absolutely no befefit over a rwd.
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> Why are all the manufacturers going to rwd again?

praise the Lord! Amen Amen…

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**Author:** ![Dominator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a4c791/32.png) [@Dominator](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dominator)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2005, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-love-the-smell-of/177362/44 "2005-09-30T12:38:52Z")

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> [@77rednecktruck](#):
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> wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, and finally wrong.
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> fwd was a stupid fucking idea from the beginning and has absolutely no befefit over a rwd.
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> Why are all the manufacturers going to rwd again?

dumbass, tell me rwd goes better in the snow. please, I dare you.

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**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2005, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-love-the-smell-of/177362/45 "2005-09-30T12:44:33Z")

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> [@Domination](#):
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> dumbass, tell me rwd goes better in the snow. please, I dare you.

if your beloved fwd loses traction with the front wheels, you’re fucked. At least with a rwd car you can steer with the gas if you have to. 🌑

rwd\>fwd period, end of story

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**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2005, 12:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-love-the-smell-of/177362/46 "2005-09-30T12:45:51Z")

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rwd drivetrain loss \> fwd loss

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**Author:** ![OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/olds_rocketman/32/5942_2.png) [@OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OLDS_ROCKETMAN)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2005, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-love-the-smell-of/177362/47 "2005-09-30T12:46:16Z")

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> [@JDMCivicSm21](#):
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> FWD is far superior in cost, weight, gas mileage,packaging, space and traction in the snow.

cost- you get what u pay for …junk  
weight- that not gonna be too important when you wreck  
gas milage- matters how one drives not necessarily the car  
packaging- not sure what you mean  
space- are you joking, i could fit some FWD cars in my trunk  
traction in the snow- well if you suck at teh driving i guess you need FWD to make you feel good about urself. its all about the TIRES!

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**Author:** ![JDMCivicSm21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c67d28/32.png) [@JDMCivicSm21](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JDMCivicSm21)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2005, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-love-the-smell-of/177362/48 "2005-09-30T12:54:29Z")

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If i was wrong, nobody would make it. They make for all the reason i stated. RWD is much better for racing applications hands down.

RWD isnt bad in the snow if you are aa ag gressive skilled driver(alot of this board), but for the masses it sucks.

BTW you steer with the gas in any car. When i lift the car rotates when gas it,it pushes. A steering wheel presents a direction change, what you do with gas/brake make it happen. This goes for driving at the limit(or near) in any conditions(dry,wet,ice snow whatever)

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**Author:** ![SMort38](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/smort38/32/6008_2.png) [@SMort38](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SMort38)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2005, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-love-the-smell-of/177362/49 "2005-09-30T13:00:55Z")

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> [@JDMCivicSm21](#):
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> BTW you steer with the gas in any car.

bull shit. if you’re flying down the highway and you jerk the wheel, your hitting the barrier.  
maybe you are talking about something your autoX training tought you, but people on the road steer with the wheel.

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**Author:** ![imported\_showtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@imported\_showtime](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_showtime)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2005, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-love-the-smell-of/177362/50 "2005-09-30T13:04:50Z")

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> [@SMort38](#):
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> bull shit. if you’re flying down the highway and you jerk the wheel, your hitting the barrier.  
> maybe you are talking about something your autoX training tought you, but people on the road steer with the wheel.

but they got their foot on the gas too…

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**Author:** ![imported\_showtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@imported\_showtime](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_showtime)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2005, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-love-the-smell-of/177362/51 "2005-09-30T13:12:04Z")

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GrassRoots did an article about this… RWD, vs. FWD, vs. AWD.  
3 cars were… WRX, RSX typeS, BMW 330i  
all with same tires & did both wet & dry auto X’ing  
5 runs in each conditon with each car.

everytime…they came in this order  
WRX, RSX, BMW

of course type of car makes a difference but these are 3 that are decent to compare.

I’m not saying one is better then the other…they all have advantages & disadvantages.

comments:  
WRX…easier to drive @ limits  
RSX…most fun to drive  
BMW…felt the quickest…but times didn’t show it.

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**Author:** ![JDMCivicSm21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c67d28/32.png) [@JDMCivicSm21](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JDMCivicSm21)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2005, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-love-the-smell-of/177362/52 "2005-09-30T13:33:40Z")

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AUTOX training 🤣. I learned that from experince no one ever taught me that.

you are right that if someones turns the wheel they will hit the barrier. But they are not at the limit of their tire.You are MOTO today.

I said driving at the limit, not driving down the freeway and sneezing, reaching for the Cell Phone, or gettign road head.

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**Author:** ![Dominator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a4c791/32.png) [@Dominator](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dominator)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2005, 2:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-love-the-smell-of/177362/53 "2005-09-30T14:34:10Z")

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yup, if your at the limit and you try for too much steering input what happens? does your car steer?

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