# I never thought I would see. a FWD V8 cavalier. **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [June 19, 2009, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-never-thought-i-would-see-a-fwd-v8-cavalier/69415 "2009-06-19T10:37:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![khoveraki](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/khoveraki/32/5131_2.png) [@khoveraki](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/khoveraki)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2009, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-never-thought-i-would-see-a-fwd-v8-cavalier/69415/21 "2009-06-19T11:05:19Z")
1993[Cadillac Allanté](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_Allant%C3%A9)295 hp (220 kW)290 lb·ft (393 N·m)1993-1994[Cadillac Eldorado](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_Eldorado) _ETC_295 hp (220 kW)290 lb·ft (393 N·m)1995–2002[Cadillac Eldorado](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_Eldorado) _ETC_300 hp (224 kW) @ 6000 rpm295 lb·ft (400 N·m) @ 4400 rpm1993[Cadillac Seville](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_Seville) _STS_295 hp (220 kW)290 lb·ft (393 N·m)1994–2004[Cadillac Seville](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_Seville) _STS_300 hp (224 kW) @ 6000 rpm295 lb·ft (400 N·m) @ 4400 rpm1996–2004[Cadillac DeVille](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_DeVille) _Concours/DTS_300 hp (224 kW) @ 6000 rpm295 lb·ft (400 N·m) @ 4400 rpm2005[Cadillac DeVille](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_DeVille) _DTS_290 hp (216 kW) @ 5600 rpm285 lb·ft (386 N·m) @ 4400 rpm2006–[Cadillac DTS](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_DTS) _Performance_292 hp (218 kW) @ 6300 rpm288 lb·ft (390 N·m) @ 4500 rpm2008-[Buick Lucerne](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buick_Lucerne#The_Lucerne_Super) _Super_292 hp (218 kW) @ 6300 rpm288 lb·ft (390 N·m) @ 4500 rpm All that work for a heavy v8 that produces 300 horsepower or less? here’s some good pictures from that forum: ![http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/5916/newsigoy2.jpg](http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/5916/newsigoy2.jpg) ![http://registry.gmenthusiast.com/images/tinkles/Sig.JPG](http://registry.gmenthusiast.com/images/tinkles/Sig.JPG) ![http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/evilkitty86/jbosig_jpg-1.jpg](http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/evilkitty86/jbosig_jpg-1.jpg) 15.155@90.79mph ---
**Author:** ![snowracer101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2009, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-never-thought-i-would-see-a-fwd-v8-cavalier/69415/22 "2009-06-19T11:15:30Z")
cavaliers are the worst ---
**Author:** ![IanK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/iank/32/5016_2.png) [@IanK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/IanK)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2009, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-never-thought-i-would-see-a-fwd-v8-cavalier/69415/23 "2009-06-19T11:19:34Z")
LOL Look at all the pile of shit cars that came right from GM with V8’s right over the drive wheels. UGH The fail never ceases to amaze. ---
**Author:** ![snowracer101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2009, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-never-thought-i-would-see-a-fwd-v8-cavalier/69415/24 "2009-06-19T11:21:27Z")
> [@IanK](#): > > LOL Look at all the pile of shit cars that came right from GM with V8’s right over the drive wheels. UGH The fail never ceases to amaze. What’s wrong with having the motor over the drive wheels? ---
**Author:** ![Clean\_Baldy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/clean_baldy/32/7308_2.png) [@Clean\_Baldy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Clean_Baldy)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2009, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-never-thought-i-would-see-a-fwd-v8-cavalier/69415/25 "2009-06-19T11:25:19Z")
Don’t let the pictures fool you… he has the stock engine and a Northstar V8 engine cover. LOL ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2009, 11:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-never-thought-i-would-see-a-fwd-v8-cavalier/69415/26 "2009-06-19T11:31:46Z")
> [@IanK](#): > > LOL Look at all the pile of shit cars that came right from GM with V8’s right over the drive wheels. UGH The fail never ceases to amaze. Old people want something that’s good in the snow. I know 15-20 of them that bought the 90’s caddys over a lincoln or something simply because of FWD. You think people gave a shit if their Sedan DeVille could handle? The thing had the suspension tuning of an overstuffed couch. ---
**Author:** ![IanK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/iank/32/5016_2.png) [@IanK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/IanK)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2009, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-never-thought-i-would-see-a-fwd-v8-cavalier/69415/27 "2009-06-19T11:32:58Z")
> [@sedlmeier101](#): > > What’s wrong with having the motor over the drive wheels? I should have been more specific. LARGE V8 over the front drive wheels = enormous fail ---
**Author:** ![IanK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/iank/32/5016_2.png) [@IanK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/IanK)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2009, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-never-thought-i-would-see-a-fwd-v8-cavalier/69415/28 "2009-06-19T11:34:25Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > Old people want something that’s good in the snow. I know 15-20 of them that bought the 90’s caddys over a lincoln or something simply because of FWD. You think people gave a shit if their Sedan DeVille could handle? The thing had the suspension tuning of an overstuffed couch. HAHA very true. I would have no choice but to LOL at them when they understeer into a poll though :mamoru: ---
**Author:** ![Sansone](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sansone/32/4970_2.png) [@Sansone](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sansone)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2009, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-never-thought-i-would-see-a-fwd-v8-cavalier/69415/29 "2009-06-19T11:35:14Z")
LOL, niiiiccccccccceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2009, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-never-thought-i-would-see-a-fwd-v8-cavalier/69415/30 "2009-06-19T11:40:03Z")
> [@IanK](#): > > HAHA very true. I would have no choice but to LOL at them when they understeer into a poll though :mamoru: Yeah, people bitch about these 90’s GM cars but they knew their target market, catered the product to them, and sold a ton of them, profitably, even though they had nothing for enthusiasts. Hard to argue with results. In the exact same way that Honda and Toyota know their target market, people who don’t care about cars that want something that will not break a lot and get good gas mileage, and sell a ton of them today, even though they are slow and boring. Car companies’ motive is to sell cars, not please the enthusiasts. ---
**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2009, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-never-thought-i-would-see-a-fwd-v8-cavalier/69415/31 "2009-06-19T11:46:52Z")
has it run at the track yet? are you sure its a runner? ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2009, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-never-thought-i-would-see-a-fwd-v8-cavalier/69415/32 "2009-06-19T11:51:28Z")
Not everyday that you see something that requires both decent technical/mechanical skills and a total lack of taste. :tup: ---
**Author:** ![IanK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/iank/32/5016_2.png) [@IanK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/IanK)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2009, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-never-thought-i-would-see-a-fwd-v8-cavalier/69415/33 "2009-06-19T11:52:20Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > Yeah, people bitch about these 90’s GM cars but they knew their target market, catered the product to them, and sold a ton of them, profitably, even though they had nothing for enthusiasts. Hard to argue with results. In the exact same way that Honda and Toyota know their target market, people who don’t care about cars that want something that will not break a lot and get good gas mileage, and sell a ton of them today, even though they are slow and boring. Car companies’ motive is to sell cars, not please the enthusiasts. Very true. The cars where HORRID but the company was profitable. In years of late though they did try to make “Performance” cars V8 FWD. The pontiac GP GXP and impala SS. Im pretty sure they didn’t have LSD’s either. haha talk about fun to drive. :roflpicard: ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2009, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-never-thought-i-would-see-a-fwd-v8-cavalier/69415/34 "2009-06-19T11:55:58Z")
Yeah, it sucks that they were profitable with crap then, and now they’re putting out the best stuff they ever have and hemmorhaging money. That’s why I really hope the gov’t restructuring rights the ship so awesome stuff like the G8 and new CTS doesn’t go to waste. ---
**Author:** ![camarojoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c67d28/32.png) [@camarojoe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/camarojoe)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2009, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-never-thought-i-would-see-a-fwd-v8-cavalier/69415/35 "2009-06-19T11:56:17Z")
From his thread: The only updates i have are of work done in the back half, we tubbed the rear for bigger wheels/tires, built a backhalf frame, and a roll bar (6point) Only have a couple pics to share from that though. i would prefer if people would refrain from posts on how useless this is on a FWD car as it does serve its purpose perfectly- it makes me happy ![http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k320/1997z24/DSC04452.jpg](http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k320/1997z24/DSC04452.jpg)\ ![http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k320/1997z24/DSC04455.jpg](http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k320/1997z24/DSC04455.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![IanK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/iank/32/5016_2.png) [@IanK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/IanK)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2009, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-never-thought-i-would-see-a-fwd-v8-cavalier/69415/36 "2009-06-19T11:56:51Z")
Wrd. ---
**Author:** ![IanK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/iank/32/5016_2.png) [@IanK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/IanK)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2009, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-never-thought-i-would-see-a-fwd-v8-cavalier/69415/37 "2009-06-19T11:57:29Z")
So much fabrication for so much fail. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2009, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-never-thought-i-would-see-a-fwd-v8-cavalier/69415/38 "2009-06-19T12:01:08Z")
And I thought VW kids with staggered wheels on FWD cars were stupid. This just makes me want to choke a bitch. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2009, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-never-thought-i-would-see-a-fwd-v8-cavalier/69415/39 "2009-06-19T12:03:20Z")
:gotme: it’s a hobby and keeps him entertained, why not? he obviously has some kind of attachment to the car ---
**Author:** ![IanK](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/iank/32/5016_2.png) [@IanK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/IanK)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2009, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-never-thought-i-would-see-a-fwd-v8-cavalier/69415/40 "2009-06-19T12:03:59Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > And I thought VW kids with staggered wheels on FWD cars were stupid. This just makes me want to choke a bitch. :banghead: LOL [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-never-thought-i-would-see-a-fwd-v8-cavalier/69415.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-never-thought-i-would-see-a-fwd-v8-cavalier/69415.md?page=3)