# I would genuinely appreciate it if you would hate on my volkswagen.

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**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [May 27, 2008, 7:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-would-genuinely-appreciate-it-if-you-would-hate-on-my-volkswagen/49085 "2008-05-27T07:36:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Haenszel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e68b1a/32.png) [@Haenszel](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Haenszel)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-would-genuinely-appreciate-it-if-you-would-hate-on-my-volkswagen/49085/21 "2008-05-27T09:45:11Z")

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> [@Carnut](#):
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> Nice power, does it get traction?
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> Whats with the top end of the graph? Is the timing not smooth, whats the A/F look like up top? The only time I see changes in the power like that is from boost rising and falling with changes in timing or having too low of a wastegate spring and it having to fluctuate more to keep pressure.

That’s the surging I believe I’m seeing up top. it wavers 2 psi up and down. I was forewarned it may be an issue w/the 60-trim.

I’m going to try plumbing both sides of the WG, because right now it is only on the bottom barb. I have a 1 bar spring in there right now, and full boost is 28psi, so that might be stretchign the limits.

I believe it to be a flow issue though, as its on a stock 1994 jetta 2.0 throttle body, and stock smallport 1.8t intake manifold.

Traction, i have 14psi in 1st(as low as I can go), 2nd – 14psi raising to 17 at 6000rpm, 3rd is 24psi raising to 28 above 6k rpm, then 4th and 5th are 28.

Autronic gear dependent/RPM dependent boost rules my face 🙂

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 9:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-would-genuinely-appreciate-it-if-you-would-hate-on-my-volkswagen/49085/22 "2008-05-27T09:47:22Z")

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VW’s suck Haenszel.

Srsly.

Die.

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**Author:** ![Haenszel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e68b1a/32.png) [@Haenszel](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Haenszel)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 9:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-would-genuinely-appreciate-it-if-you-would-hate-on-my-volkswagen/49085/23 "2008-05-27T09:48:04Z")

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> [@MPD47](#):
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> VW’s suck Haenszel.
> 
> Srsly.
> 
> Die.

don’t be jealous cuz you’re car doesnt’ run, sweetheart 🙂 \<3

Mine will stop running soon enough. it is a VW after all.

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-would-genuinely-appreciate-it-if-you-would-hate-on-my-volkswagen/49085/24 "2008-05-27T09:49:31Z")

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:walter::tantrum:

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**Author:** ![RedrRocket](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redrrocket/32/7193_2.png) [@RedrRocket](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedrRocket)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-would-genuinely-appreciate-it-if-you-would-hate-on-my-volkswagen/49085/25 "2008-05-27T10:05:09Z")

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> [@Carnut](#):
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> Nice power, does it get traction?

![http://k53.pbase.com/u41/turbo16psi/upload/39563944.FWDsucks.jpg](http://k53.pbase.com/u41/turbo16psi/upload/39563944.FWDsucks.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Haenszel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e68b1a/32.png) [@Haenszel](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Haenszel)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 10:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-would-genuinely-appreciate-it-if-you-would-hate-on-my-volkswagen/49085/26 "2008-05-27T10:13:02Z")

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> [@Carnut](#):
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> Nice power, does it get traction?

> [@Haenszel](#):
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> Traction, i have 14psi in 1st(as low as I can go), 2nd – 14psi raising to 17 at 6000rpm, 3rd is 24psi raising to 28 above 6k rpm, then 4th and 5th are 28.
> 
> Autronic gear dependent/RPM dependent boost rules my face 🙂

🙂

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**Author:** ![rage87](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9e8a1a/32.png) [@rage87](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rage87)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-would-genuinely-appreciate-it-if-you-would-hate-on-my-volkswagen/49085/27 "2008-05-27T10:38:10Z")

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> [@Adictd2b00st](#):
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> wow, congrats! Haenzel, he’s so hot right now!

lol

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**Author:** ![airhead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/airhead/32/7471_2.png) [@airhead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/airhead)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 10:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-would-genuinely-appreciate-it-if-you-would-hate-on-my-volkswagen/49085/28 "2008-05-27T10:46:40Z")

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Noice!

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**Author:** ![neonglh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neonglh/32/4951_2.png) [@neonglh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonglh)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-would-genuinely-appreciate-it-if-you-would-hate-on-my-volkswagen/49085/29 "2008-05-27T10:58:52Z")

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But do you get traction, lol. I have gear dependent boost too, 14 in 1st, 18 in 2nd, and 27 in 3rd- 5th and I dont’ get traction in 1 - 3 at WOT ☹

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**Author:** ![Haenszel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e68b1a/32.png) [@Haenszel](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Haenszel)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-would-genuinely-appreciate-it-if-you-would-hate-on-my-volkswagen/49085/30 "2008-05-27T11:23:49Z")

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> [@neonglh](#):
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> But do you get traction, lol. I have gear dependent boost too, 14 in 1st, 18 in 2nd, and 27 in 3rd- 5th and I dont’ get traction in 1 - 3 at WOT ☹

then turn it down a little, dummy.

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**Author:** ![Jeller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@Jeller](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeller)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-would-genuinely-appreciate-it-if-you-would-hate-on-my-volkswagen/49085/31 "2008-05-27T11:25:50Z")

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Very nice man :tup: I would love to check it out sometime.

Jeller

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**Author:** ![EvilJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a5b964/32.png) [@EvilJay](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/EvilJay)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-would-genuinely-appreciate-it-if-you-would-hate-on-my-volkswagen/49085/32 "2008-05-27T11:38:26Z")

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I’d love to set this car on fire after Jeller sees it.

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**Author:** ![Haenszel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e68b1a/32.png) [@Haenszel](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Haenszel)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-would-genuinely-appreciate-it-if-you-would-hate-on-my-volkswagen/49085/33 "2008-05-27T11:48:14Z")

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> [@EvilJay](#):
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> I’d love to set this car on fire after Jeller sees it.

it will probably do that itself before Jeller sees it.

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**Author:** ![Jagermeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f19dbf/32.png) [@Jagermeister](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jagermeister)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-would-genuinely-appreciate-it-if-you-would-hate-on-my-volkswagen/49085/34 "2008-05-27T12:20:23Z")

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Nice work.

Sorry for the lack of VW hate in my post.

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**Author:** ![Haenszel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e68b1a/32.png) [@Haenszel](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Haenszel)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-would-genuinely-appreciate-it-if-you-would-hate-on-my-volkswagen/49085/35 "2008-05-27T12:21:00Z")

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> [@Jagermeister](#):
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> Nice work.
> 
> Sorry for the lack of VW hate in my post.

its ok, you’re no better. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Dex](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dex/32/7210_2.png) [@Dex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dex)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-would-genuinely-appreciate-it-if-you-would-hate-on-my-volkswagen/49085/36 "2008-05-27T14:33:49Z")

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really makes me question the whole 20/20 thing. live and learn i guess. i still think the most impressive thing this car has done is drive from maryland to buffalo. i bet 20 bucks it can’t do it again.

nice numbers homie.

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**Author:** ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-would-genuinely-appreciate-it-if-you-would-hate-on-my-volkswagen/49085/37 "2008-05-27T14:35:10Z")

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> [@Haenszel](#):
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> That’s the surging I believe I’m seeing up top. it wavers 2 psi up and down. I was forewarned it may be an issue w/the 60-trim.
> 
> I’m going to try plumbing both sides of the WG, because right now it is only on the bottom barb. I have a 1 bar spring in there right now, and full boost is 28psi, so that might be stretchign the limits.
> 
> I believe it to be a flow issue though, as its on a stock 1994 jetta 2.0 throttle body, and stock smallport 1.8t intake manifold.
> 
> Traction, i have 14psi in 1st(as low as I can go), 2nd – 14psi raising to 17 at 6000rpm, 3rd is 24psi raising to 28 above 6k rpm, then 4th and 5th are 28.
> 
> Autronic gear dependent/RPM dependent boost rules my face 🙂

You need a higher pressure spring that is all.

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**Author:** ![Shrives](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shrives/32/7250_2.png) [@Shrives](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shrives)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-would-genuinely-appreciate-it-if-you-would-hate-on-my-volkswagen/49085/38 "2008-05-27T17:12:25Z")

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:fail:

j/k

lookin good guy

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**Author:** ![98SS10](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/98ss10/32/7288_2.png) [@98SS10](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/98SS10)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-would-genuinely-appreciate-it-if-you-would-hate-on-my-volkswagen/49085/39 "2008-05-27T17:52:21Z")

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post some pics of the POS so we can comment on how fukin ghey lookin it is too.

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**Author:** ![Inn-Tune](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/inn-tune/32/7588_2.png) [@Inn-Tune](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Inn-Tune)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-would-genuinely-appreciate-it-if-you-would-hate-on-my-volkswagen/49085/40 "2008-05-27T19:40:54Z")

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> [@Haenszel](#):
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> That’s the surging I believe I’m seeing up top. it wavers 2 psi up and down. I was forewarned it may be an issue w/the 60-trim.
> 
> I’m going to try plumbing both sides of the WG, because right now it is only on the bottom barb. I have a 1 bar spring in there right now, and full boost is 28psi, so that might be stretchign the limits.
> 
> I believe it to be a flow issue though, as its on a stock 1994 jetta 2.0 throttle body, and stock smallport 1.8t intake manifold.
> 
> Traction, i have 14psi in 1st(as low as I can go), 2nd – 14psi raising to 17 at 6000rpm, 3rd is 24psi raising to 28 above 6k rpm, then 4th and 5th are 28.
> 
> Autronic gear dependent/RPM dependent boost rules my face 🙂

Buddy…do some reading on surge. I don’t see signs of surge on the graph aside from the one hiccup on spoolup.

Moderate detonation or misfiring up top does cause manifold pressure oscillation, and it produces a graph like that, but hopefully it’s just a boost controller setting issue. Try a good manual boost controller to rule it out. It’s a quick, easy test.

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