# If you didn't have to pay for it: Bold 2 or iphone? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [January 5, 2010, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-you-didnt-have-to-pay-for-it-bold-2-or-iphone/77879 "2010-01-05T10:12:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 1:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-you-didnt-have-to-pay-for-it-bold-2-or-iphone/77879/61 "2010-01-05T13:36:51Z")
I’m pretty sure the only people here w/ iphones are higher-ups ---
**Author:** ![Daddie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/daddie/32/7621_2.png) [@Daddie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Daddie)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 1:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-you-didnt-have-to-pay-for-it-bold-2-or-iphone/77879/62 "2010-01-05T13:40:03Z")
iPhone supports exchange activesync and the security protocols - the BASIC functionality of device control… until you really check what a Blackberry Enterprise Server can do, and understand everything about it, you’ll never understand… ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-you-didnt-have-to-pay-for-it-bold-2-or-iphone/77879/63 "2010-01-05T13:42:04Z")
Most execs have BBs because that is the device that their IT departments deployed years ago and they feel comfortable with the fact that they have expert level admins running them. That was when most smartphones were POS and insecure. RIM was the leader at the time. Now that exchange is playing nicely with mobile devices, things are changing. It’s not cheap for a company to just ditch their BES servers though. Also, there is no point in spending the money since the BB devices are still competitive. It also costs money to hire or train their staff to manage the other devices/servers. So again, don’t expect to see any companies giving up the BB, but realize that there are other phones and solutions out there that can accomplish the same thing. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-you-didnt-have-to-pay-for-it-bold-2-or-iphone/77879/64 "2010-01-05T13:43:15Z")
> [@Daddie](#): > > iPhone supports exchange activesync and the security protocols - the BASIC functionality of device control… > > until you really check what a Blackberry Enterprise Server can do, and understand everything about it, you’ll never understand… That does not make the iPhone/Exchange insecure OR difficult to use though… ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-you-didnt-have-to-pay-for-it-bold-2-or-iphone/77879/65 "2010-01-05T13:52:39Z")
> [@93dx--hatch](#): > > i know many CEOs and VP that have Iphones, I don’t know what that proves. > > Its not like having a BB makes you and Executive, or having an Iphone makes you look less professional. > > I know many of execs from all over the country, majority of them have BBs, but I do come across some that have Iphones and they usually make it a point to talk about how cool their Iphone is, that’s usually the point I stop listening. I just wanted to know what company boxxa is an engineer at. I passed no judgement on what device an executive should have. (I personally think it’s like what car an executive drives: People have a certain image in their mind, but most executives don’t care.) ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-you-didnt-have-to-pay-for-it-bold-2-or-iphone/77879/66 "2010-01-05T13:54:46Z")
> [@boardjnky4](#): > > That does not make the iPhone/Exchange insecure OR difficult to use though… lol. insecure. Does my battery look big in this case? ---
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-you-didnt-have-to-pay-for-it-bold-2-or-iphone/77879/67 "2010-01-05T14:05:08Z")
> [@93dx--hatch](#): > > i know many CEOs and VP that have Iphones, I don’t know what that proves. > > Its not like having a BB makes you and Executive, or having an Iphone makes you look less professional. > > I know many of execs from all over the country, majority of them have BBs, but I do come across some that have Iphones and they usually make it a point to talk about how cool their Iphone is, that’s usually the point I stop listening. Its not an argument that having an iPhone or BB makes you a executive, its the fact that people who have them in corporate environments typically are on them a lot more during the day and the fact that they are used by highups shows they enterprise phones and support security features that enterprises require. Yes, BB does provide a lot of lock downs that the iPhone can and their deployment and management is a bit easier but hey, its all about how you use it and what you like. > [@Fry](#): > > I just wanted to know what company boxxa is an engineer at. I passed no judgement on what device an executive should have. > > (I personally think it’s like what car an executive drives: People have a certain image in their mind, but most executives don’t care.) I am a telcomm engineer. We take care of your phone system and that very Avaya phone you are on at Praxair. ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-you-didnt-have-to-pay-for-it-bold-2-or-iphone/77879/68 "2010-01-05T14:13:20Z")
What kind of engineering degree do you have? ---
**Author:** ![eclipsed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bbce88/32.png) [@eclipsed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/eclipsed)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-you-didnt-have-to-pay-for-it-bold-2-or-iphone/77879/69 "2010-01-05T14:21:12Z")
lol ---
**Author:** ![Daddie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/daddie/32/7621_2.png) [@Daddie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Daddie)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-you-didnt-have-to-pay-for-it-bold-2-or-iphone/77879/70 "2010-01-05T14:24:56Z")
Hey, fuck you, I’m a network / systems engineer. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-you-didnt-have-to-pay-for-it-bold-2-or-iphone/77879/71 "2010-01-05T18:52:34Z")
> [@boxxa](#): > > I am a telcomm engineer. We take care of your phone system and that very Avaya phone you are on at Praxair. Oh that’s right. We’ve gone over this like 8 times now. Anyhow. They’re both good devices, and I’m sure you give a flying fuck about admin server security exchange blah blah blah. First find out if you can actually get an iphone, then just go play with them. ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-you-didnt-have-to-pay-for-it-bold-2-or-iphone/77879/72 "2010-01-05T19:05:11Z")
I am kinda leaning towards the iPhone (with no experience with a BB). I do not care for the “keyboard”, the call quality seems to be fine IMO. The functionality is great, pretty much anything you would want a phone to do is possible on the iPhone. The exchange accounts are a bit trickier to work with on the iPhone which kind of aggrivated me a bit. I’m sure some of the CEOs and higher ups have the iPhone based purely on requesting it and that “it makes me look really important and high tech”, even though they probably don’t even know there is a calculator on it. It’s the same with the students who go off to college and think they have to get a macbook. ---
**Author:** ![klug](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/klug/32/5222_2.png) [@klug](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/klug)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-you-didnt-have-to-pay-for-it-bold-2-or-iphone/77879/73 "2010-01-05T19:12:34Z")
I voted iphone but what about the nexus one? ---
**Author:** ![xbimmerx](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xbimmerx/32/5038_2.png) [@xbimmerx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/xbimmerx)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-you-didnt-have-to-pay-for-it-bold-2-or-iphone/77879/74 "2010-01-05T19:49:05Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > You can use the blackberry with gloves on. :tup: (iphone has a capacitive touch screen so no glove love.) Fry, while trivial, this point isn’t completely true. my riding gloves are calfskin and i am able to use my iphone without taking my gloves off. beyond that, iphone ftw. ---
**Author:** ![Griff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f19dbf/32.png) [@Griff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Griff)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-you-didnt-have-to-pay-for-it-bold-2-or-iphone/77879/75 "2010-01-05T19:53:04Z")
i love my 9700 ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-you-didnt-have-to-pay-for-it-bold-2-or-iphone/77879/76 "2010-01-05T20:22:39Z")
fucking engineers… i will do the opposite of whatever engineers do at all times forever… mind you, i will admit that Canada has a BB fetish… when i told people that BB was not the world leader in smart phones they are like “WHAAAAAA???” But i /we all (canadians) live in RIM’s backyard so it’s hard to see past the fences. ---
**Author:** ![RedGoober4Life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redgoober4life/32/7610_2.png) [@RedGoober4Life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedGoober4Life)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-you-didnt-have-to-pay-for-it-bold-2-or-iphone/77879/77 "2010-01-05T20:45:43Z")
> [@boxxa](#): > > i know i personally send 20-50 emails a day with it and **100-200 texts**. it a great phone. OMG u2!? ---
**Author:** ![08GT500](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/08gt500/32/5417_2.png) [@08GT500](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/08GT500)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2010, 12:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-you-didnt-have-to-pay-for-it-bold-2-or-iphone/77879/78 "2010-01-06T00:17:36Z")
iPhone all the way. My phone has been dropped so many times I can’t recall. Everytime I’ve dropped it, it always happens to be on tile, concrete or hard wood flooring, never on the carpet… It has been slung across the room (unintentionally lol) and landed on tile. Dog knocked over a glass of juice which poured directly onto my phone. The headset didn’t work but that was a temporary issue. They take a beating and ask for more. Apps are plentiful and good time wasters. I have two complaints. One, no flash support. Two, can’t create groups of contacts that can be selected to text as a group. ---
**Author:** ![SilverGTP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/35a633/32.png) [@SilverGTP](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SilverGTP)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2010, 12:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-you-didnt-have-to-pay-for-it-bold-2-or-iphone/77879/79 "2010-01-06T00:26:04Z")
Also love my iPhone… I don’t know anyone who doesn’t love theirs. Always works, it’s fast never any problems. I can’t say the same about friends that have BBs. Jailbreak it and you can do anything. I use it to tether and got rid of my home Internet. (although I don’t game or Download much) ---
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2010, 2:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-you-didnt-have-to-pay-for-it-bold-2-or-iphone/77879/80 "2010-01-06T02:21:12Z")
BB sucks monkey dicks. iPhone isn’t the best phone out there IMO (depending on what you are looking for) but it sure is pretty solid. BB or JesusPhone is kind of comparing apples to oranges though. Hai guys, should I get this CTS-V or this GMC Sierra? [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-you-didnt-have-to-pay-for-it-bold-2-or-iphone/77879.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-you-didnt-have-to-pay-for-it-bold-2-or-iphone/77879.md?page=5)