# If You Had To Choose One? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [February 6, 2010, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-you-had-to-choose-one/79035 "2010-02-06T20:44:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-you-had-to-choose-one/79035/61 "2010-02-08T09:34:56Z")
> [@Quattro Krant](#): > > Come on, you don’t think a 400 hp GTO is ugly but an Element is HOT as fuck, whats wrong with you? :lol: NO! GTO’S ARE ONLY FROM THE 60’s! ANYTHING CALLED THAT AFTER IS A RIP OFF! AND IT’S FROM AUSTRALIA FOR CHRIST’S SAKE! Plus, hot cars must have 4-bangers and have hp numbers starting in one. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 9:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-you-had-to-choose-one/79035/62 "2010-02-08T09:36:58Z")
So the Cobalt weighs 350 pounds less than the Hyundai, makes 50 horse and 40 ft-lbs more out of the box, and is known to be a capable platform, yet you guys are still humping the Korean tin can because it’s rear wheel drive? Don’t get me wrong, I wouldn’t pay $20k+ for either car, but if someone put a gun to my head and told me to buy one of them I’d go with the Cobalt. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-you-had-to-choose-one/79035/63 "2010-02-08T09:38:29Z")
It’s a GM. 100k mile warranty be damned, it is going to explode 3 blocks off the dealer lot. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-you-had-to-choose-one/79035/64 "2010-02-08T09:42:37Z")
Yeah and JD Powers says that a Hyundai is as nice as a Honda. :cjerk: ---
**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-you-had-to-choose-one/79035/65 "2010-02-08T09:43:35Z")
> [@Quattro Krant](#): > > Come on, you don’t think a 400 hp GTO is ugly but an Element is HOT as fuck, whats wrong with you? > [@Joe](#): > > :lol: NO! GTO’S ARE ONLY FROM THE 60’s! ANYTHING CALLED THAT AFTER IS A RIP OFF! AND IT’S FROM AUSTRALIA FOR CHRIST’S SAKE! Plus, hot cars must have 4-bangers and have hp numbers starting in one. lol, i would never call an element “hot” i also would never call a new gto hot… ricky loves rolling boxes too (old as audis) ---
**Author:** ![Haenszel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e68b1a/32.png) [@Haenszel](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Haenszel)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 10:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-you-had-to-choose-one/79035/66 "2010-02-08T10:08:08Z")
Cobalt. Traction issues, sure. But put one of their “mail order tunes”, a good clutch and a downpipe on one and its easily a mid-12second capable car. Took out a friends TC against my roomates “stg3+” s4 that put down 440awhp, and the cobalt was right there with it till 120 or so. I was genuinely impressed. ---
**Author:** ![dftsilvia](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dftsilvia/32/7447_2.png) [@dftsilvia](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dftsilvia)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-you-had-to-choose-one/79035/67 "2010-02-08T10:12:36Z")
genesis, rwd period ---
**Author:** ![misteroman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/misteroman/32/7423_2.png) [@misteroman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/misteroman)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-you-had-to-choose-one/79035/68 "2010-02-08T10:17:16Z")
Are they really about the same price? I thought the hy. was over 30k? OP: I can get ya a GM discount on the SS if ya buy a new one. ---
**Author:** ![Sansone](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sansone/32/4970_2.png) [@Sansone](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sansone)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 10:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-you-had-to-choose-one/79035/69 "2010-02-08T10:27:41Z")
meh, genesis is kind of cool… ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-you-had-to-choose-one/79035/70 "2010-02-08T10:48:06Z")
both are ugly, so pick the RWD ugly car. ---
**Author:** ![nytalonTSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nytalontsi/32/5399_2.png) [@nytalonTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nytalonTSi)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-you-had-to-choose-one/79035/71 "2010-02-08T13:56:32Z")
Yeah id take the Genesis. ---
**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-you-had-to-choose-one/79035/72 "2010-02-08T15:44:33Z")
Cobalts sound brly with open cutouts, i raced my friend who has one ---
**Author:** ![Penfold](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/penfold/32/5007_2.png) [@Penfold](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Penfold)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-you-had-to-choose-one/79035/73 "2010-02-08T16:01:06Z")
honestly, for the same price you can get a 2011 mustang v6. -305 hp -6 speed -30mpg highway -RWD it’s a no brainer to me. ---
**Author:** ![sasquatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@sasquatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sasquatch)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-you-had-to-choose-one/79035/74 "2010-02-08T20:22:47Z")
genesis all day! ive driven a V6 one a bunch of times(ripped it a little as well) and it was damn impressive. plus the interior is much nicer than a cobalt as well. and its actually a really nice car to drive. id rather have the genesis over the mustang too. i think the genesis looks better. ---
**Author:** ![ubengineering](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ubengineering/32/5171_2.png) [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-you-had-to-choose-one/79035/75 "2010-02-08T20:25:59Z")
> [@Penfold](#): > > honestly, for the same price you can get a 2011 mustang v6. > > -305 hp > -6 speed > -30mpg highway > -RWD > > it’s a no brainer to me. thats true but its weird take that stang, take even the prveious v8 models all 300hp ss cobalt T/C 260 horse gensis v6 300hp 350z 300hp mazda speed 3/6 260 hp caliber srt4 285 hp fuck just keep listing them 2003-05 srt4 neon 215-230 hp FWD better than them all in the quarter and 0-60, proven and tested, fuck the cobalt, caliber, genesis can barely break into the 14s and cant break 6 seconds for 0-60 not that im tellin the OP to get an srt4, but i always wondered how that little car blew the doors off everything with more power, RWDs, and so on back to the topic ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-you-had-to-choose-one/79035/76 "2010-02-08T21:42:51Z")
How much does an srt4 weigh? ---
**Author:** ![Penfold](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/penfold/32/5007_2.png) [@Penfold](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Penfold)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2010, 5:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-you-had-to-choose-one/79035/77 "2010-02-09T05:10:34Z")
Not enough for me to feel safe in one. edit: edmunds says 2900lbs. I don’t believe it. > **[Used 2004 Dodge Neon for sale - Pricing & Features | Edmunds](https://www.edmunds.com/dodge/neon/2004/)** > > Edmunds has detailed price information for the Used 2004 Dodge Neon. Save on one of 2 Used 2004 Dodge Neons near you. Find detailed gas mileage information, insurance estimates, and more. ---
**Author:** ![ubengineering](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ubengineering/32/5171_2.png) [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2010, 6:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-you-had-to-choose-one/79035/78 "2010-02-09T06:53:33Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > How much does an srt4 weigh? > [@Penfold](#): > > Not enough for me to feel safe in one. > > edit: > > edmunds says 2900lbs. I don’t believe it. > > [http://www.edmunds.com/used/2004/dodge/neon/100327527/specs.html](http://www.edmunds.com/used/2004/dodge/neon/100327527/specs.html) yeah it is 2900lbs its a fat motherfucker shit the neon guys put that powerplant and tranny in their first gens, my 95 was 2390 without me in it ---
**Author:** ![Garick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8797f3/32.png) [@Garick](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Garick)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2010, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-you-had-to-choose-one/79035/79 "2010-02-09T09:38:56Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > So the Cobalt weighs 350 pounds less than the Hyundai, makes 50 horse and 40 ft-lbs more out of the box, and is known to be a capable platform, yet you guys are still humping the Korean tin can because it’s rear wheel drive? > > Don’t get me wrong, I wouldn’t pay $20k+ for either car, but if someone put a gun to my head and told me to buy one of them I’d go with the Cobalt. I’d have to agree with this. I have heard that the genesis does handle pretty well but its a bigger and heavier car that also only has a 2 liter engine with 60 less hp stock. Are we talking track or r package at least? The cobalt is pretty impressive. GM really nailed the chassis dynamics on the TC. ---
**Author:** ![Shifty](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shifty/32/4959_2.png) [@Shifty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shifty)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 10:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/if-you-had-to-choose-one/79035/80 "2010-02-11T10:06:38Z")
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