# illegal car

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illegal-car/76817>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [December 2, 2009, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illegal-car/76817 "2009-12-02T15:31:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![97Ranger](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/97ranger/32/7342_2.png) [@97Ranger](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97Ranger)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illegal-car/76817/1 "2009-12-02T15:31:49Z")

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[http://www.niagara-gazette.com/local/local\_story\_334235236.html](http://www.niagara-gazette.com/local/local_story_334235236.html)

Agents catch car smuggling attempt

U.S. Customs and Border Protection agents have arrested a Canadian man after he tried to smuggle a specially built sports car across the Lewiston-Queenston Bridge.

The agents said William Scarr, 48, was attempting to import and sell a 1994 Toyota Celica GT-4 to a U.S. citizen without the proper licenses. The car, which was manufactured in Japan, had four-wheel drive, the steering wheel on the right side and was made to compete in the World Rally Championships.

Agents seized the car and arrested Scarr. He faces federal charges of false statements and smuggling of prohibited goods into the U.S.

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**Author:** ![Spam16v](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/spam16v/32/5287_2.png) [@Spam16v](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Spam16v)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illegal-car/76817/2 "2009-12-02T16:00:07Z")

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in any shape or form would a car like that or a skyline ect be legal to import as a track only car? i know it’s sure as hell not going to be able to be federalized and legal.

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**Author:** ![slow84ta](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slow84ta/32/7265_2.png) [@slow84ta](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slow84ta)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illegal-car/76817/3 "2009-12-02T16:01:34Z")

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oops

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**Author:** ![Clean\_Baldy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/clean_baldy/32/7308_2.png) [@Clean\_Baldy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Clean_Baldy)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illegal-car/76817/4 "2009-12-02T16:04:49Z")

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So, what do they do with the car in these situations? Please tell me they don’t crush it…

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**Author:** ![JustinH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9fc29f/32.png) [@JustinH](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JustinH)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illegal-car/76817/5 "2009-12-02T16:05:19Z")

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I don’t understand how they can take the car if it is registered in Canada, or it has a dealer plate on it.

They don’t know that he was going to sell it in the United States.

Couldn’t the car even be sold as a kit car?

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**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illegal-car/76817/6 "2009-12-02T16:10:51Z")

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It seems that he had already modified something to make it be registered as another car or whatnot, sense they said “false statements” or whatever

he probably could have gotten away with it if it wasnt for those meddling kids and their dog

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**Author:** ![nitroinsane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d26b3c/32.png) [@nitroinsane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nitroinsane)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illegal-car/76817/7 "2009-12-02T17:14:13Z")

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no it can’t be sold as a kit car.this is a production the dec and dot are not a bunch of idiots

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illegal-car/76817/8 "2009-12-02T17:22:23Z")

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Was this an actual WRC car? Or were they hyping the story because it “could” compete in a rally?

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illegal-car/76817/9 "2009-12-02T17:25:20Z")

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Hyping because it’s a homologation model.

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**Author:** ![NeOn9787](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neon9787/32/7466_2.png) [@NeOn9787](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NeOn9787)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illegal-car/76817/10 "2009-12-02T17:48:35Z")

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pics of said car?

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**Author:** ![97Ranger](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/97ranger/32/7342_2.png) [@97Ranger](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97Ranger)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illegal-car/76817/11 "2009-12-02T17:50:46Z")

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i took it from the news story so there were no pics

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**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illegal-car/76817/12 "2009-12-02T18:11:38Z")

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> [@Onyx Z32](#):
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> Was this an actual WRC car? Or were they hyping the story because it “could” compete in a rally?

they probably had no idea what the car was, so they googled it and thats what came up on wiki

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**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illegal-car/76817/13 "2009-12-02T18:27:36Z")

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:io:

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**Author:** ![LXIFLYBY](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lxiflyby/32/7399_2.png) [@LXIFLYBY](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LXIFLYBY)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illegal-car/76817/14 "2009-12-02T19:36:52Z")

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i dont understand how they can seize the car, currently, it cant be registered in the states for use on public roads, but if your using it as a race car or show piece, who cares?

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illegal-car/76817/15 "2009-12-02T19:41:05Z")

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Because you can’t just claim a car is a “race” car and bring it in. You have to fill out the proper forms, same thing for show cars. They need proven history in said field to be used or brought in under very specific exemptions. It’s all very clearly laid out.

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**Author:** ![Coldaccord](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/coldaccord/32/7272_2.png) [@Coldaccord](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Coldaccord)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illegal-car/76817/16 "2009-12-02T22:46:03Z")

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what the hell. why didn’t he just drive it across the border, tell them he was going to the mall or something, and be on his way

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**Author:** ![bananas25](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ea666f/32.png) [@bananas25](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bananas25)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 5:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illegal-car/76817/17 "2009-12-03T05:59:27Z")

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[http://www.jdmtigerjapanese.com/details.php?id=5586](http://www.jdmtigerjapanese.com/details.php?id=5586)

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**Author:** ![bananas25](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ea666f/32.png) [@bananas25](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bananas25)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 6:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illegal-car/76817/18 "2009-12-03T06:02:01Z")

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> [@Coldaccord](#):
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> what the hell. why didn’t he just drive it across the border, tell them he was going to the mall or something, and be on his way

Its not that simple

[http://www.jdmtigerjapanese.com/details.php?id=5586](http://www.jdmtigerjapanese.com/details.php?id=5586)

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**Author:** ![bananas25](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ea666f/32.png) [@bananas25](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bananas25)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 6:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illegal-car/76817/19 "2009-12-03T06:13:01Z")

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Its not that simple

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**Author:** ![Inn-Tune](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/inn-tune/32/7588_2.png) [@Inn-Tune](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Inn-Tune)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 6:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illegal-car/76817/20 "2009-12-03T06:17:16Z")

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> [@Clean Baldy](#):
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> So, what do they do with the car in these situations? Please tell me they don’t crush it…

We have a few customers that work the border and handle this sort of thing. It happens rather often and generally isn’t in the news. The cars are destroyed.

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