# Illegal immigrants want drivers licenses **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [March 14, 2013, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illegal-immigrants-want-drivers-licenses/266497 "2013-03-14T16:10:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 8:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illegal-immigrants-want-drivers-licenses/266497/41 "2013-03-19T08:26:54Z")
> [@KrazyKid"](#): > > When you want to rebuild a new skyscraper, what do you have to do? Ya gotta blow it the fuck up and deal with the mess until the new one starts to be built. Terrible example. 12 years later, it’s still a mess of epic proportions. Interesting link for you for the immigration debate back to 2004. > **[The Nation: A New Order; Imagining Life Without Illegal Immigrants (Published...](https://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/11/weekinreview/the-nation-a-new-order-imagining-life-without-illegal-immigrants.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm)** > > Pres Bush has reopened national debate about immigration with his proposal to grant temporary visas to undocumented workers; Immigration and Naturalization Service estimates that 15 states account for all but 13 percent of illegal immigrants; most... ---
**Author:** ![GD3Skier](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gd3skier/32/6400_2.png) [@GD3Skier](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GD3Skier)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 9:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illegal-immigrants-want-drivers-licenses/266497/42 "2013-03-19T09:17:11Z")
He said sky scraper. Not one specific sky scraper that was demolished with airplanes. ---
**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illegal-immigrants-want-drivers-licenses/266497/43 "2013-03-19T10:01:25Z")
Here is a better example. when you want to rebuild any building, do you take it apart brick by brick, nail by nail, board by board, shingle by shingle??? NOPE you run it the fuck over with a bulldozer and cart it away in the biggest dumpster you can find! Yeah it makes for a big ass mess at first, but in the ends its worth it. ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 10:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illegal-immigrants-want-drivers-licenses/266497/44 "2013-03-19T10:06:53Z")
> [@On another topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/52032/9): > > Here is a better example. > > when you want to rebuild any building, do you take it apart brick by brick, nail by nail, board by board, shingle by shingle??? NOPE you run it the fuck over with a bulldozer and cart it away in the biggest dumpster you can find! Yeah it makes for a big ass mess at first, but in the ends its worth it. You’re right, thats exactly how I rebuild my motor. Bulldozer first, ask questions later. :ponder ---
**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 10:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illegal-immigrants-want-drivers-licenses/266497/45 "2013-03-19T10:32:59Z")
OK cool… ill roll with that. What would get that engine running sooner? - Having the new heads, gaskets, seals, rotating assembly, and everything else ready on the bench waiting to go into the block the moment you “bulldoze” the block empty. or - take it apart bolt by bolt, inspecting every little part, think about reusing a few bearings here, a few seals there, maybe a few pistons look ok maybe put them back in, nit picking everything along the way. Ohh fuck, wait a minute, you need the crank machined, I guess its a week out till you can even continue rebuilding the motor. I will stick with my first choice. And dont play the “Must be nice to have all the money to just go out and buy new parts right off the bat”. Because thats called having a feasible business plan and thinking ahead so your ready to “flip the switch”. ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illegal-immigrants-want-drivers-licenses/266497/46 "2013-03-19T10:37:14Z")
I’m just going to make you step away from your theory and apply it to practice. Describe your proposed solution/legislation and how you’re going to remain in the office for re-election while doing it. Keep in mind you will lose a immigrant vote for going against amnesty, and you will lose many votes for eliminating jobs during the “bulldozing” And… go! ---
**Author:** ![sbardy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@sbardy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sbardy)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 10:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illegal-immigrants-want-drivers-licenses/266497/47 "2013-03-19T10:43:11Z")
> [@People With Money In the Market](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/people-with-money-in-the-market/42103/227): > > For the record it’s rarely a criminal with a gun thats all the fuss is about. 9000+ deaths a year are from gang violence and them killing each other. Few care. > > It’s when some white “law obeying” kid goes nuts and shoots up a theater or a school is when people care… > > Only reason illegals are still here is because they bring people money. Businesses are happy because they pay pennies on the dollar for them and they don’t or can’t complain. Government is happy because they get billions in revenue from them just buying things. Plus government is well aware that spoiled Americans won’t ever fight for a job that a Mexican takes, otherwise our unemployment would be in next to nothing. Illegals don’t sit on welfare and they don’t get unemployment. > > They are quite profitable and useful for those people in power (business owners/politicians). Good luck having this changed. Nicely said. Damn I hate agreeing with you. ---
**Author:** ![sbardy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@sbardy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sbardy)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illegal-immigrants-want-drivers-licenses/266497/48 "2013-03-19T10:44:28Z")
Vlad, serious question… Are you a citizen of the u.s.a.? ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illegal-immigrants-want-drivers-licenses/266497/49 "2013-03-19T10:54:28Z")
> [@FS: used digital video camera on Ebay.....CHEAP !](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-used-digital-video-camera-on-ebay-cheap/51755/2): > > Vlad, serious question… > > Are you a citizen of the u.s.a.? Proudly so. ^ And if it makes you feel any better, you’re not agreeing with me per se, but rather agreeing with the reasoning. ---
**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 10:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illegal-immigrants-want-drivers-licenses/266497/50 "2013-03-19T10:55:11Z")
Sure thing. I would be the first motherfucking politician in history that ACTUALLY GAVE A SHIT ABOUT MAKING A REAL DIFFERENCE. Remember Mike Wood owns a car business and works a cushy state job during the day… I don’t need to be relected in this example I already an in seat!  And how would I do it? Eassssssyyy. Do the exact OPPOSITE of the dope politician sitting next to me. You know, the one with his hand on HIS wallet, his citizens nuts in a vice, and the one that’s blind (lol pun intended) to his citizens opinions and thoughts. Hell while I am steam rolling my way through office, I just might do something wacky, un heard of…. ASK THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY THINK SHOULD BE DONE!!! Let them toss the ideas out for me. Then when the majority of people of clear thinking seem to agree with one another I’ll try to make it happen. If they want to see farms blatantly ignoring labor laws crumble, so be it. Ill get in the bulldozer. For once, it would turn the tables to the PEOPLE, to fuck up THEIR OWN SOCIETIES! I am just the guy carrying out their wants. ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illegal-immigrants-want-drivers-licenses/266497/51 "2013-03-19T10:58:50Z")
You would go down as the worst _leader_ in history. You can’t make everybody happy, and you sure as hell can’t let people run themselves, which is why they elect people to do it for them. For christ sake, forefathers didnt even trust people in the democracy they set up, hence the electoral college! ---
**Author:** ![sbardy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@sbardy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sbardy)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illegal-immigrants-want-drivers-licenses/266497/52 "2013-03-19T11:05:32Z")
> [@Top Gear Season 11](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/top-gear-season-11/50646/49): > > Proudly so. ^ > > And if it makes you feel any better, you’re not agreeing with me per se, but rather agreeing with the reasoning. Wasn’t trying to be a dick at all… I was agreeing with you. ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illegal-immigrants-want-drivers-licenses/266497/53 "2013-03-19T11:09:21Z")
> [@Cobra vs. Random Crotch rocket](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobra-vs-random-crotch-rocket/51902/19): > > Wasn’t trying to be a dick at all… > > I was agreeing with you. I didn’t mean to imply that you were. I just know how it’s difficult for anybody who knows me to take my side in an argument and I was merely trying to smooth transition over for ya :lol :shifty ---
**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illegal-immigrants-want-drivers-licenses/266497/54 "2013-03-19T11:10:24Z")
I know I wont make everyone happy. But when 9 out of 10 people think giving illegal immigrants fucking drivers licenses SHOULD NOT HAPPEN. And I make sure it DOESNT HAPPEN. How is that not being a “good leader”. GOOD based on more people asked for and agreed with my action there, than didn’t. Remember the idea of a “good or bad” leader comes from the thoughts of the people, NOT THE LEADERS THEMSELVES! It the overwhelming majority of how people think this country and state is run, that citizens feel their opinions are next to worthless. Yeeahhhhhhaaaaa we can vote! (hence the next to worthless part) BUT all we are voting on is the lesser of two evils. So, that’s not to good now is it. Think of the best job you ever had. One where you LOVED working there, and thought you actually were worth a damn. Replace the CEO with President Mike and work your way down to you. How did they run the joint? I am willing to bet they didn’t order you around and not give a fuck about you or the guy working next to you. ---
**Author:** ![KillerBlackbird](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/killerblackbird/32/6525_2.png) [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illegal-immigrants-want-drivers-licenses/266497/55 "2013-03-19T13:59:08Z")
> [@Top Gear Season 11](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/top-gear-season-11/50646/49): > > Proudly so. ^ > > And if it makes you feel any better, you’re not agreeing with me per se, but rather agreeing with the reasoning. :rofl Vlad, you’ll even argue with someone agreeing with you hahaha ---
**Author:** ![johnnyk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/johnnyk/32/6480_2.png) [@johnnyk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/johnnyk)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illegal-immigrants-want-drivers-licenses/266497/56 "2013-03-19T14:05:20Z")
i just wish the illegals would stop taking my god damn tuition assistance, i guess giving it to a service member of the military takes a back seat to illegal immigrants and what they want. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illegal-immigrants-want-drivers-licenses/266497.md?page=2)