# Illest x Dr.Dre Beats x RWB **URL:** \ **Category:** SON240sx Automotive\ **Created:** [November 1, 2012, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illest-x-dr-dre-beats-x-rwb/226925 "2012-11-01T13:15:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Cadence](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Cadence](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cadence)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illest-x-dr-dre-beats-x-rwb/226925/1 "2012-11-01T13:15:09Z")
[http://fatlace.com/2012/11/illest-beats-press-release/](http://fatlace.com/2012/11/illest-beats-press-release/) ![http://fatlace.com/lacedup/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/pr_image.jpg](http://fatlace.com/lacedup/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/pr_image.jpg) what do you guys think? IDGAF?Sell-outs? Dopeasfck? From the POV of the Illest crew and RWB, sick mainstream, getting out there and getting big. From a hipster/enthusiasts’ view…sell out? ---
**Author:** ![I\_3-SR20DET](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f0a364/32.png) [@I\_3-SR20DET](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/I_3-SR20DET)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illest-x-dr-dre-beats-x-rwb/226925/2 "2012-11-01T14:15:15Z")
illest / fatlace has been a joke ever since EVERY car that doesn’t back up the style of illest or fatlace (of very properly fitting wheels) has had a sticker on their car or a fake illest sticker, at that. This degrades the RWB style in my eyes. ---
**Author:** ![agent240sx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ea924/32.png) [@agent240sx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/agent240sx)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illest-x-dr-dre-beats-x-rwb/226925/3 "2012-11-01T15:34:36Z")
Don’t give 2 shits about illest/fatlace culture/style… all I know is those headphones are ugly as fuck. ---
**Author:** ![prozac3ne2nr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/prozac3ne2nr/32/5581_2.png) [@prozac3ne2nr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/prozac3ne2nr)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illest-x-dr-dre-beats-x-rwb/226925/4 "2012-11-01T16:00:51Z")
RWB appears once in that entire article. nakai san prob having a stroke ---
**Author:** ![Benjai](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/benjai/32/6122_2.png) [@Benjai](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Benjai)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illest-x-dr-dre-beats-x-rwb/226925/5 "2012-11-01T16:35:17Z")
I don’t think is a RWB endorsing beats thing. Seems to be more that fatlace have a car coming out to coincide with release of the headphones. At the end of the day IDGAF. ---
**Author:** ![Cadence](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Cadence](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cadence)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 5:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illest-x-dr-dre-beats-x-rwb/226925/6 "2012-11-01T17:33:46Z")
I, for one am actually really dissapointed. Agreed with the Nakai-san, having a stroke on this one. I can only base this opinion off of the numerous videos and interviews I’ve seen him and understand his style and the way he thinks. Agreed, Liam ; RWB is indeed degraded with the Fatlace shit. Fatlace/Illest is a double-edged sword for me, it’s not that I don’t agree with their goals or styles it’s more so the reaction and how their audience have replied and reflected. At the end of the day, to each their own. Fatlace/Illest has both made the car scene thrive as well as fail in a lot of sense. doesn’t help some shitty sounding headphones look even shittier now. ---
**Author:** ![karkas9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f14d63/32.png) [@karkas9](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/karkas9)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illest-x-dr-dre-beats-x-rwb/226925/7 "2012-11-02T17:12:53Z")
how is a classic race car related to headphones? ---
**Author:** ![purestock240](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/purestock240/32/5729_2.png) [@purestock240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/purestock240)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illest-x-dr-dre-beats-x-rwb/226925/8 "2012-11-02T17:54:32Z")
this whole fatlace illest thing is just plain dumb ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illest-x-dr-dre-beats-x-rwb/226925/9 "2012-11-02T20:08:35Z")
i dont know anything about fatlace or illest. cliffs? ---
**Author:** ![billiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@billiam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/billiam)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2012, 3:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illest-x-dr-dre-beats-x-rwb/226925/10 "2012-11-03T03:31:31Z")
> [@bing](#): > > i dont know anything about fatlace or illest. > > cliffs? \>hipsters \>sideways stickers \>vw ---
**Author:** ![4dgs](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/4dgs/32/5891_2.png) [@4dgs](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/4dgs)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 2:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illest-x-dr-dre-beats-x-rwb/226925/11 "2012-11-08T02:13:52Z")
> [@billiam](#): > > \>hipsters > \>sideways stickers > \>vw Ehhh, better than that. Hellaflush \> Branded \> Illest \> sticker\> Sell \> fake illest stickers \> have to change original illest logo \> still sells like crazy \> Mark Arcenal Millionaire. Worked out pretty good for him and the original fatlace guys. I’m tired of RWB cars, fatlace killed that off for me. Dre beats are super shitty and sound like shit. BUT Fatlace still knows what’s up, got a tour of the fatlace paddock while I was in SF and saw their rocket bunny FRS and this being put together… ![http://www.takataracing.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/FatlaceGT-R.jpg](http://www.takataracing.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/FatlaceGT-R.jpg) I still respect fatlace but they sold out long ago, crossing paths with another sell out like Dre isn’t any surprise. ---
**Author:** ![Cadence](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Cadence](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cadence)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 8:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illest-x-dr-dre-beats-x-rwb/226925/12 "2012-11-08T08:08:47Z")
“Selling out” I think is an interesting discussion topic. (Whether it be Fatlace or Dr.Dre) From the audience/fan base: It sucks, they’re not as cool anymore. They lose some respect and their reputation is tarnished. From the “sell out’s” side: It gives you a chance to grow, you benefit from sponsors to help you progress in your goals? I mean, if someone offered you a $100 000 contract or something, would you pass it up because “you’re too cool” ? People need sponsors (unless you’re filthy rich to begin with or you’re fortunate enough to have an amazing business) , sponsors need reputable people. Am I wrong? ---
**Author:** ![Singh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@Singh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Singh)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illest-x-dr-dre-beats-x-rwb/226925/13 "2012-11-08T12:10:41Z")
werd, didn’t even know who fatlace was till this thread. RWB is still awesome. regardless. ---
**Author:** ![4dgs](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/4dgs/32/5891_2.png) [@4dgs](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/4dgs)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 11:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illest-x-dr-dre-beats-x-rwb/226925/14 "2012-11-09T11:28:26Z")
> [@Cadence](#): > > “Selling out” I think is an interesting discussion topic. (Whether it be Fatlace or Dr.Dre) > From the audience/fan base: It sucks, they’re not as cool anymore. They lose some respect and their reputation is tarnished. > From the “sell out’s” side: It gives you a chance to grow, you benefit from sponsors to help you progress in your goals? I mean, if someone offered you a $100 000 contract or something, would you pass it up because “you’re too cool” ? People need sponsors (unless you’re filthy rich to begin with or you’re fortunate enough to have an amazing business) , sponsors need reputable people. > > Am I wrong? Not at all, anyone here that says they wouldn’t take a pick pile of cash to run some stickers or paint the car a certain way is nuts. But crossing the border between big money company and another big money company is just marketing. Now all the hip hop hipsters that weren’t aware of illest/fatlace will be shown the brand. It’s not like fatlace never had ties to hip hop and their cultures. It originally started as a store selling local SF hip hop and “urban” clothing. ---
**Author:** ![Hacknik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ba9def/32.png) [@Hacknik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hacknik)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 10:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illest-x-dr-dre-beats-x-rwb/226925/15 "2012-11-09T22:56:28Z")
Don’t like them, but respect their style and Japanese Urban tastes. To me personally, Fatlace/Illest is like Apple. People that don’t know shit about shit will ride that wagon like blind sheep. Derp. ---
**Author:** ![4dgs](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/4dgs/32/5891_2.png) [@4dgs](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/4dgs)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 6:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/illest-x-dr-dre-beats-x-rwb/226925/16 "2012-11-14T18:28:28Z")
Pretty terrible analogy.