# I'm done playin in Obamanomics **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [March 3, 2009, 12:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/im-done-playin-in-obamanomics/242525 "2009-03-03T00:46:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/im-done-playin-in-obamanomics/242525/281 "2009-03-09T20:37:47Z")
> [@hybrdthry911"](#): > > when you say setup correctly do you mean the rich pay for everything and the middle class will allegedly not pay for much at all just their fair share. and of course its the low income earners are the ones making out on the deal and not paying at all. > > lets stop rewarding bad decisions in this country. foreclosing on your house? lets give you money. had a child you cant afford? lets give you money. came over the border illegally? lets give you a job. didnt pay your taxes? lets give you a cabinet position. drove your company into the ground? lets give you a hand. when i say setup correctly… i mean that its setup progressively ---
**Author:** ![imported\_hybrdthry91](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_hybrdthry91/32/6315_2.png) [@imported\_hybrdthry91](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_hybrdthry91)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/im-done-playin-in-obamanomics/242525/282 "2009-03-09T20:42:58Z")
> [@7/30 autocross eccn](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/7-30-autocross-eccn/15061/74): > > our taxes are going to our much needed military!!! hooray for stuff that kills!! you bitch about money going to the military? you can see it as stuff that kills. but long ago people used to see it as the military protecting your ass. go bitch about the 9000 pet projects in pelosi’s new bill. ---
**Author:** ![imported\_hybrdthry91](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_hybrdthry91/32/6315_2.png) [@imported\_hybrdthry91](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_hybrdthry91)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/im-done-playin-in-obamanomics/242525/283 "2009-03-09T20:48:18Z")
> [@i really wish i bought this instead of the EG...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-really-wish-i-bought-this-instead-of-the-eg/15069/26): > > Ok so we’ll relate it to something that is universal already. > > Your house is on fire, you don’t have the resources to have it put out, and can’t afford a fire truck or hoses to connect to the fire hydrant, or the fire hydrant to begin with. > > What do I care? You can’t afford a fire truck, hoses, a hydrant, and the installation why should I pay for it? Burn or pay for it yourself, right? > > Are there people in yoru family that are not well off? > > What if they got diagnosed with leukemia and were refused treatment because they had a yeast infection 10 years ago that they didn’t disclose to their insurance company? Or the treatment was considered experimental? I bet you wouldn’t mind paying another 5% of your income for your life to save their life would you? what if you had a BWM parked in your driveway instead of a fire hose and hydrant that you could have bought. if its so important than you might have to give you some of lifes luxuries. how many uninsured people have cell phones, internet, and cable television. and then complain they cannot afford healthcare…and then go on about how every one has the right to healthcare, and that it is extremely important yet they continue to pay for their other luxuries instead of their healthcare. ---
**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/im-done-playin-in-obamanomics/242525/284 "2009-03-09T20:48:56Z")
> [@WTB: Something lol](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-something-lol/14602/38): > > you bitch about money going to the military? you can see it as stuff that kills. but long ago people used to see it as the military protecting your ass. go bitch about the 9000 pet projects in pelosi’s new bill. i find a 500 billion dollar contract for the next fighter jet outrageous… we have a higher budget then all of Europe combined, they seem to be pretty safe… refer to [http://schema-root.org/military/budget/military\_spending\_us\_vs\_world.gif](http://schema-root.org/military/budget/military_spending_us_vs_world.gif) I have the upmost respect for people who have served, but as far as the spending goes for the military as a whole, I feel that something is off. ---
**Author:** ![psi2high](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/psi2high/32/6320_2.png) [@psi2high](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psi2high)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/im-done-playin-in-obamanomics/242525/285 "2009-03-09T20:52:01Z")
> [@WTS: XBOX 360 with Ghost Recon \*\*Sold\*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wts-xbox-360-with-ghost-recon-sold/15251/12): > > what about terminally ill children who cannot fend for themselves? is that another too bad situation? Thats not even a good argument since ny state covers all children till the age of 18. Read up on current policies before making false statements ---
**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/im-done-playin-in-obamanomics/242525/286 "2009-03-09T20:52:58Z")
> [@Turbocivs stag.... 8/19/06](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/turbocivs-stag-8-19-06/15068/37): > > Thats not even a good argument since ny state covers all children till the age of 18. Read up on current policies before making false statements How about other states? ---
**Author:** ![psi2high](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/psi2high/32/6320_2.png) [@psi2high](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psi2high)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/im-done-playin-in-obamanomics/242525/287 "2009-03-09T20:53:46Z")
Read up on those and see. Most have similar policies when it comes to children ---
**Author:** ![imported\_hybrdthry91](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_hybrdthry91/32/6315_2.png) [@imported\_hybrdthry91](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_hybrdthry91)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/im-done-playin-in-obamanomics/242525/288 "2009-03-09T20:57:10Z")
> [@Murrdog9000"](#): > > i find a 500 billion dollar contract for the next fighter jet outrageous… we have a higher budget then all of Europe combined, they seem to be pretty safe… refer to [http://schema-root.org/military/budget/military\_spending\_us\_vs\_world.gif](http://schema-root.org/military/budget/military_spending_us_vs_world.gif) > > I have the upmost respect for people who have served, but as far as the spending goes for the military as a whole, I feel that something is off. our GDP is almost the size of europes GDP. and we are in a war while they arent. ---
**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/im-done-playin-in-obamanomics/242525/289 "2009-03-09T20:58:47Z")
> [@I think it's time for some creative cooling.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-think-its-time-for-some-creative-cooling/15311/7): > > Read up on those and see. Most have similar policies when it comes to children Most isn’t good enough… and i was speaking of morals not policy, if one of you came on here and said my child has cancer or something in that sense, and that they couldn’t afford to pay for it, I would give something… maybe thats just the way I was brought up ---
**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/im-done-playin-in-obamanomics/242525/290 "2009-03-09T20:59:31Z")
> [@FMF quick vid](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fmf-quick-vid/10139/39): > > our GDP is almost the size of europes GDP. does that mean we need more nukes? ---
**Author:** ![imported\_hybrdthry91](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_hybrdthry91/32/6315_2.png) [@imported\_hybrdthry91](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_hybrdthry91)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/im-done-playin-in-obamanomics/242525/291 "2009-03-09T21:02:46Z")
> [@FS/WTT: 95 GSX shell](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-wtt-95-gsx-shell/14822/15): > > Most isn’t good enough… and i was speaking of morals not policy, if one of you came on here and said my child has cancer or something in that sense, and that they couldn’t afford to pay for it, I would give something… maybe thats just the way I was brought up but instead a bully comes by and says give me your money my kid is sick. ---
**Author:** ![imported\_hybrdthry91](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_hybrdthry91/32/6315_2.png) [@imported\_hybrdthry91](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_hybrdthry91)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/im-done-playin-in-obamanomics/242525/292 "2009-03-09T21:07:45Z")
> [@Happy Birthday JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/happy-birthday-jeg/15315/2): > > does that mean we need more nukes? want to be more like a european country? think they have low government costs? look at their tax rates. where the fuck is all the money going over there if its not going to the military…their sweet healthcare system. and people wonder why our corporations go overseas. > **[File:Income Taxes By Country 2005.svg](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Income_Taxes_By_Country.svg)** > > Original file ‎(SVG file, nominally 810 × 570 pixels, file size: 379 KB) > This graph shows average income taxes by country in year 2005. > The 'Personal rate' is the average rate of income tax for a worker on the average income in that country. > Note Personal rate is calculated using the combined central and sub-central government income tax plus employee and employer social security contribution taxes, as a percentage of labour costs defined as gross wage earnings plus employer social security co... ---
**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/im-done-playin-in-obamanomics/242525/293 "2009-03-09T21:12:49Z")
> [@Miata's LOVE trees](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/miatas-love-trees/15309/7): > > want to be more like a european country? think they have low government costs? look at their tax rates. where the fuck is all the money going over there if its not going to the military…their sweet healthcare system. and people wonder why our corporations go overseas. > > [File:Income Taxes By Country 2005.svg - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Income_Taxes_By_Country.svg) I think their money would be going to better the social welfare of the population as a whole, universal higher education, universal healthcare ---
**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/im-done-playin-in-obamanomics/242525/294 "2009-03-09T21:13:31Z")
> [@Miata's LOVE trees](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/miatas-love-trees/15309/7): > > want to be more like a european country? think they have low government costs? look at their tax rates. where the fuck is all the money going over there if its not going to the military…their sweet healthcare system. and people wonder why our corporations go overseas. > > [File:Income Taxes By Country 2005.svg - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Income_Taxes_By_Country.svg) Our corporations go overseas because people do the same amount of work at a much lower cost. ---
**Author:** ![imported\_hybrdthry91](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_hybrdthry91/32/6315_2.png) [@imported\_hybrdthry91](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_hybrdthry91)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/im-done-playin-in-obamanomics/242525/295 "2009-03-09T21:24:23Z")
> [@Happy Birthday JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/happy-birthday-jeg/15315/4): > > I think their money would be going to better the social welfare of the population as a whole, universal higher education, universal healthcare when do you stop educating and let them start working. i dont agree with our taxes going to pay for everyones entire college education. what happens after that? then everyone deserves a masters degree, and a PHD. 18 years old. high school degree. you want more education after that you are on your own. you have an education edequate enough to function in society. you cant hold them by their hands forever. > [@Somebody pic me a Digi cam ....](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/somebody-pic-me-a-digi-cam/15305/12): > > Our corporations go overseas because people do the same amount of work at a much lower cost. obviously its a lower cost, look at how much the corporations are being taxed here in america. thats obviously just one factor, its obvious costs are cheaper when you pay a 7 year old 13 cents a day to put together a cd player. ---
**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/im-done-playin-in-obamanomics/242525/296 "2009-03-09T21:25:51Z")
> [@Miata's LOVE trees](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/miatas-love-trees/15309/9): > > when do you stop educating and let them start working. i dont agree with our taxes going to pay for everyones entire college education. what happens after that? then everyone deserves a masters degree, and a PHD. 18 years old. high school degree. you want more education after that you are on your own. you have an education edequate enough to function in society. you cant hold them by their hands forever. > > obviously its a lower cost, look at how much the corporations are being taxed here in america. > > thats obviously just one factor, its obvious costs are cheaper when you pay a 7 year old 13 cents a day to put together a cd player. It may be a lower monetary cost, but economically its KILLING our economy. My company (Albany International Corp.) just laid off a bunch of factory workers. Guess where the work is being picked up? Primaloft-China. :eek3 ---
**Author:** ![imported\_hybrdthry91](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_hybrdthry91/32/6315_2.png) [@imported\_hybrdthry91](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_hybrdthry91)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/im-done-playin-in-obamanomics/242525/297 "2009-03-09T21:26:47Z")
guess whos being taxed out his ass so much he cant hire anyone? the owner of your company. thats what taxing the rich does. the rich people supply the jobs. if they dont have money they cant give jobs. ---
**Author:** ![psi2high](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/psi2high/32/6320_2.png) [@psi2high](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psi2high)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 9:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/im-done-playin-in-obamanomics/242525/298 "2009-03-09T21:27:25Z")
Yea they source work over seas because they can not afford to stay in business if they dont ---
**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/im-done-playin-in-obamanomics/242525/299 "2009-03-09T21:30:29Z")
> [@psi2high"](#): > > Yea they source work over seas because they can not afford to stay in business if they dont Yes. The CEO of my company wrote us all a 3 page letter explaining the layoffs and switch to cheaper labor. It’s rough times obviously, and we need to cut costs to stay afloat. All makes perfect sense. It’s either that, or the company goes Bankrupt. (Sound familiar? GM?) Look at GM, they didn’t do shit to cut costs until they cried to the government for more money and the government basically FORCED them to do so. It’s something they should have been doing since they started losing money in the first place. Of course the media does not tell you that. Tax the rich, go ahead. The losses eventually TRICKLE DOWN to everyone else since the wealthy supply the middle class with jobs. Common sense, yet everyone seems to think this is the best idea in the world. lol HOPE FOR CHANGE! YES WE CAN! ---
**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/im-done-playin-in-obamanomics/242525/300 "2009-03-09T21:30:35Z")
> [@psi2high"](#): > > Yea they source work over seas because they can not afford to stay in business if they dont no they would just rather have a fatter bonus at the end of the year… if americans were working for 3 dollars an hour, jobs would still be getting outsourced [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/im-done-playin-in-obamanomics/242525.md?page=14) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/im-done-playin-in-obamanomics/242525.md?page=16)