# In the end, its still a Cobalt **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [March 25, 2008, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/in-the-end-its-still-a-cobalt/45607 "2008-03-25T08:22:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![snowracer101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/in-the-end-its-still-a-cobalt/45607/21 "2008-03-25T10:15:07Z")
hmm… I wonder if they will incorporate the no-lift shift in the sky redline? (i couldn’t see them doing that because an un-experianced driver with a flat foot shift from 1-2 will result in the rear end coming around) ---
**Author:** ![ubengineering](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ubengineering/32/5171_2.png) [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/in-the-end-its-still-a-cobalt/45607/22 "2008-03-25T10:26:48Z")
ill say this for the 2nd time 58 more hp and tq and still in the 14’s :tdown::tdown::tdown::tdown: every other 4 banger turbo made by chrysler or some other foreign company, 35 less hp and tq 13s and low 5’s to 60 ---
**Author:** ![greenbull](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@greenbull](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/greenbull)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/in-the-end-its-still-a-cobalt/45607/23 "2008-03-25T10:28:01Z")
but can they keep up at the ring?? 😛 don’t think so ---
**Author:** ![ubengineering](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ubengineering/32/5171_2.png) [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 10:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/in-the-end-its-still-a-cobalt/45607/24 "2008-03-25T10:36:25Z")
they made the same cobalt with more power that cant get put to the ground, 60 more horse and torque and you can only cut off .2 seconds? NEW COBALT FTL ---
**Author:** ![greenbull](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@greenbull](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/greenbull)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/in-the-end-its-still-a-cobalt/45607/25 "2008-03-25T10:38:34Z")
according to the article its a 1.2 second difference in the 1/4 and around the same for 0-60 but i have not seen a supercharged ss go 15 seconds…even while stock. 14.6-14.8 ---
**Author:** ![rdandy5875](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rdandy5875/32/7511_2.png) [@rdandy5875](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rdandy5875)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/in-the-end-its-still-a-cobalt/45607/26 "2008-03-25T10:56:30Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > Wait. This is the car they think will outsell the Cobalt because it’s better looking? > > :uhh: I think they meant something more like this??? Although it looks just like a cobalt to me too from this angle… Stickier rubber can help the wrong wheel drive. I may consider the sedan in 09, but the price is getting up there for a chevy compact… ---
**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/in-the-end-its-still-a-cobalt/45607/27 "2008-03-25T11:54:39Z")
I like the MS3 better. Based on looks alone ---
**Author:** ![dftsilvia](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dftsilvia/32/7447_2.png) [@dftsilvia](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dftsilvia)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/in-the-end-its-still-a-cobalt/45607/28 "2008-03-25T11:59:49Z")
cobalts still suck they are made for trips to the grocery store ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/in-the-end-its-still-a-cobalt/45607/29 "2008-03-25T12:00:24Z")
love the motor, hate the car… this motor would rock in an elise. the astra looks really sexy in 2 door: ![http://www.autoclub.com.au/uploaded_images/holden-astra-sri-2007-704039.jpg](http://www.autoclub.com.au/uploaded_images/holden-astra-sri-2007-704039.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![OfficerK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4da419/32.png) [@OfficerK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OfficerK)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/in-the-end-its-still-a-cobalt/45607/30 "2008-03-25T12:01:06Z")
> [@Minglor](#): > > I like the MS3 better. > Based on looks alone QFT not only on hte exterior but interior as well… I cannot stand the shitty Chevy interior of the cobalt… I however love my MS3s Also I wonder what kind of twisty control the Slowbalt will have… ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/in-the-end-its-still-a-cobalt/45607/31 "2008-03-25T12:01:38Z")
> [@dftsilvia](#): > > cobalts still suck they are made for trips to the grocery store :picard: GM can fight back against the imports with engineering, quality, and the technical end, but ignorance is a whole different story. ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 12:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/in-the-end-its-still-a-cobalt/45607/32 "2008-03-25T12:12:18Z")
yea, anyone with a brain would realize how little of the target demographic actually go to the grocery store. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/in-the-end-its-still-a-cobalt/45607/33 "2008-03-25T12:21:00Z")
> [@theblue](#): > > love the motor, hate the car… this motor would rock in an elise. Or if you’re looking to do it cheap, in a Fiero. There should be enough young kids wrecking these that you’ll be able to find cheap enough front clips. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/in-the-end-its-still-a-cobalt/45607/34 "2008-03-25T12:33:03Z")
> [@TORQDSS](#): > > i think its a cool car, from the factory with a bumper to bumper warranty, for a decent price… i love it. still doing a test drive, right? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![RLB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rlb/32/5196_2.png) [@RLB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RLB)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/in-the-end-its-still-a-cobalt/45607/35 "2008-03-25T12:34:00Z")
> [@Nikuk](#): > > 14.0 @ 103mph??? > > In the end, its still FWD. Put someone who can actually drive in the seat and that will come down substantially. ---
**Author:** ![RobHimself](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e480ec/32.png) [@RobHimself](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RobHimself)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/in-the-end-its-still-a-cobalt/45607/36 "2008-03-25T12:36:36Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > Factory anti-lag? :eyebrow: Cool on paper but turbos aren’t gonna like it. ---
**Author:** ![woody](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/woody/32/7191_2.png) [@woody](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/woody)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/in-the-end-its-still-a-cobalt/45607/37 "2008-03-25T17:16:17Z")
i wouldnt mind that for a cheap daily. :tup: to gm for once ---
**Author:** ![Justin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/justin/32/7459_2.png) [@Justin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Justin)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/in-the-end-its-still-a-cobalt/45607/38 "2008-03-25T17:27:09Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > :picard: > GM can fight back against the imports with engineering, quality, and the technical end, but ignorance is a whole different story. QFT ---
**Author:** ![reliant\_turbo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/reliant_turbo/32/7189_2.png) [@reliant\_turbo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/reliant_turbo)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/in-the-end-its-still-a-cobalt/45607/39 "2008-03-25T17:29:09Z")
> [@ubengineering](#): > > they made the same cobalt with more power that cant get put to the ground, 60 more horse and torque and you can only cut off .2 seconds? > > NEW COBALT FTL its the power delivery that is the problem. thats why the original SRT-4 was so successful in getting good 1/4mi times. big displacement 4 and big torque and just enough tire. id rather have a used SRT-4. did all this back in 2003 and still faster. will chevy offer a bolt on kit that puts down 360+whp? somehow i doubt it. nice car though and :tdown: to dodge for axing the original srt-4 for the caliber. Brian ---
**Author:** ![greenbull](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@greenbull](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/greenbull)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/in-the-end-its-still-a-cobalt/45607/40 "2008-03-25T17:51:25Z")
> [@reliant\_turbo](#): > > its the power delivery that is the problem. thats why the original SRT-4 was so successful in getting good 1/4mi times. big displacement 4 and big torque and just enough tire. > > id rather have a used SRT-4. did all this back in 2003 and still faster. > > will chevy offer a bolt on kit that puts down 360+whp? somehow i doubt it. > > nice car though and :tdown: to dodge for axing the original srt-4 for the caliber. > > Brian gm supposedly has stage kits already to boost power up to around 300. i think its through a tune though. and possibly larger injectors. [css.net](http://css.net) has more info. admin went to a first drive and testing thing along side motor trend. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/in-the-end-its-still-a-cobalt/45607.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/in-the-end-its-still-a-cobalt/45607.md?page=3)