# Increasing "Low end" Torque **URL:** \ **Category:** SON240sx Automotive\ **Created:** [August 21, 2012, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/increasing-low-end-torque/225442 "2012-08-21T17:48:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Prabu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f1d935/32.png) [@Prabu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Prabu)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/increasing-low-end-torque/225442/1 "2012-08-21T17:48:53Z")
Hey guys so I got the S14 Sr swap. My car currently has a Blitz FMIC, Blitz BOV and upgraded fuel pump. My question is what are some of the ways to improve low end torque? The car only really seems to come alive after 3500 ~ 4000rpm. I know I can always get a boost controller and crank up the boost a bit, it was also recommended I check out cams and rocker arm stoppers for improvement through out the rev range. I just wanted to hear some of your opinions and see what you guys would do, I am having a hard time figuring out if purchasing a boost controller at a lower cost would yield better low end torque, than purchasing a good set of cams at a higher price point. Any help would be appreciated, thanks. ---
**Author:** ![karkas9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f14d63/32.png) [@karkas9](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/karkas9)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/increasing-low-end-torque/225442/2 "2012-08-21T17:56:04Z")
check ur timing and afr. raising boost with a manual boost controller isn’t going to really help at low ends. you can go to a smaller intercoller,check see if bov is shot after throttle. and ur wastgate is letting gas go at low rpms. ---
**Author:** ![danbikes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f9ae1b/32.png) [@danbikes](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/danbikes)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/increasing-low-end-torque/225442/3 "2012-08-21T18:17:44Z")
Cams will do the opposite of what you want (generally). You will lose low end power/torque but gain top end power. Just get a small ball bearing turbo, like [this one](http://www.son240sx.org/showthread.php?222335-IC-Full-HKS-Turbo-Kit-FT) with supporting mods. Intercooler size has little to do with low end power. The only downside to a big intercooler is slight pressure loss, which can be compensated for by turning up the boost a little, assuming you’re not maxing it out already. Edit: also, you’re not really gonna be able to get that much power under 3500rpm with a 4 banger lol. You might want to look into getting a V8 if you want low end power that badly. ---
**Author:** ![GetARide](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e495f1/32.png) [@GetARide](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GetARide)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/increasing-low-end-torque/225442/4 "2012-08-21T18:18:14Z")
Maybe a decent catback exhaust will help, and port polish the turbo housing. or just get a V8. ---
**Author:** ![oneeightseven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f07891/32.png) [@oneeightseven](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/oneeightseven)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/increasing-low-end-torque/225442/5 "2012-08-21T21:08:59Z")
Agree with “danbikes”. I would recommend a ball bearing turbo. Something small is okay because it will spool up quicker. Not sure if you have, but running a 3 inch turbo outlet, downpipe, and exhaust would do good. Even an exhaust manifold. As mentioned, 4 cylinder will not have that much low end power. There are minor upgrades that can help though. ---
**Author:** ![Prabu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f1d935/32.png) [@Prabu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Prabu)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/increasing-low-end-torque/225442/6 "2012-08-21T21:20:12Z")
Thanks for the input guys, I think I am going to take a closer look at my exhaust setup. I just have a some no name exhaust with a crappy down pipe right now, I didn’t think that would have made a difference in my low end torque, so I think I am also going to get a boost controller and turn up the boost a little, right now I am on stock psi. As for the V8 options who knows maybe a vk50 crammed into my tiny little s14 engine bay? ---
**Author:** ![frankduxx](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/frankduxx/32/5647_2.png) [@frankduxx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/frankduxx)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/increasing-low-end-torque/225442/7 "2012-08-21T22:43:14Z")
Na is better for low end torque or super charged but im not a big fan of superchargers cause they steal power to make it… ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Phonso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a87d85/32.png) [@Mr\_Phonso](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr_Phonso)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 11:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/increasing-low-end-torque/225442/8 "2012-08-21T23:05:42Z")
you can increase the timing and that is about it. Its a 2.0 liter engine. 8.5:1 compression. Don’t expect a lot of low end torque because you will not get it. ---
**Author:** ![RED\_LINE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/red_line/32/5656_2.png) [@RED\_LINE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RED_LINE)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 7:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/increasing-low-end-torque/225442/9 "2012-08-23T07:53:04Z")
If the cars running well, and you’ve got full 3" flowing turbo back and the usual bolt-ons, low end torque shouldn’t be much of an issue in giving you that smooth pickup and build up to bOost. ---
**Author:** ![240sx\_nismo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/3da27b/32.png) [@240sx\_nismo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/240sx_nismo)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/increasing-low-end-torque/225442/10 "2012-08-23T08:02:09Z")
lolmy s14 sr has way to muck low end torque and i want more top end, having more back presser will give you more low end torque to the point were you can feel the car lifting up in the front, if you have a cat you will feel more if not you will feel less but if you have a strong slincer you will feel alot of low end, ---
**Author:** ![a\_ahmed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/a_ahmed/32/5411_2.png) [@a\_ahmed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/a_ahmed)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/increasing-low-end-torque/225442/11 "2012-08-23T13:11:27Z")
lol welcome to 2 liter turbo… thats what i told people years ago that i hated… no power until 4k rpm… hence my made up opinion that a LS V8 \> SR, RB, CA, etc… and as time went by look everyone’s doing it now 🙂 Saddly I still don’t have one 😃 It just doesn’t feel the same once you feel the linear power of a v8 and that of 4 bangers no matter which turbo… heck my talon tsi was fun… awd turbo launches… but a v8 just feels… better… ---
**Author:** ![240sx\_nismo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/3da27b/32.png) [@240sx\_nismo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/240sx_nismo)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/increasing-low-end-torque/225442/12 "2012-08-23T13:28:16Z")
if you think 3-4k is bad how about type r s and k20s no power tell 7000+ rmps ---
**Author:** ![k.man](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/k.man/32/5790_2.png) [@k.man](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/k.man)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/increasing-low-end-torque/225442/13 "2012-08-23T14:10:49Z")
> [@Prabu"](#): > > The car only really seems to come alive after 3500 ~ 4000rpm. That’s what happens when you go from a 3.5L V6 N/A to 2L turbo inline 4 lolll…withdrawal symptoms haha ---
**Author:** ![Singh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@Singh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Singh)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/increasing-low-end-torque/225442/14 "2012-08-23T17:02:26Z")
Wow. My car comes alive at 3500, and thats perfectly fine. If power kicked in earlier, you would have no fuel economy. 230-250whp, 13km/L highway! My beater ka gives 9-10 MAX. Fuck low low end torque. its completly pointless. ---
**Author:** ![Prabu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f1d935/32.png) [@Prabu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Prabu)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/increasing-low-end-torque/225442/15 "2012-08-23T20:14:22Z")
> [@240sx\_nismo](#): > > lolmy s14 sr has way to muck low end torque and i want more top end, having more back presser will give you more low end torque to the point were you can feel the car lifting up in the front, if you have a cat you will feel more if not you will feel less but if you have a strong slincer you will feel alot of low end, What do you have thats giving u all that low end torque other than an exhaust with a cat? > [@k.man](#): > > That’s what happens when you go from a 3.5L V6 N/A to 2L turbo inline 4 lolll…withdrawal symptoms haha Lol true, but I am enjoying driving my car hard and not feeling to bad. But yah I do have withdrawals. ---
**Author:** ![Nismo240SX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nismo240sx/32/5755_2.png) [@Nismo240SX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nismo240SX)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 11:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/increasing-low-end-torque/225442/16 "2012-08-23T23:03:40Z")
> [@240sx\_nismo](#): > > if you think 3-4k is bad how about type r s and k20s no power tell 7000+ rmps Hahahah yup. I got an 08 SI and I know how this feels. But at 6 grand my vtec goes waaaaaappppppppp Hahaha. But it’s no boost…only for track. ---
**Author:** ![240sx\_nismo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/3da27b/32.png) [@240sx\_nismo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/240sx_nismo)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 6:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/increasing-low-end-torque/225442/17 "2012-08-24T06:47:38Z")
> [@Nismo240SX](#): > > Hahahah yup. I got an 08 SI and I know how this feels. But at 6 grand my vtec goes waaaaaappppppppp > > Hahaha. But it’s no boost…only for track. ahh you must be the guy with the 08 si at cscs the other day i freaking love those cars my buddy had one and we would always switch cars so much fun over all other civics!! ---
**Author:** ![Pants](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pants/32/5590_2.png) [@Pants](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pants)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2012, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/increasing-low-end-torque/225442/18 "2012-08-26T11:14:27Z")
11:1 compression and a secret timing setting solved my low end issue ---
**Author:** ![89\_coupe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/e0b2c6/32.png) [@89\_coupe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/89_coupe)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2012, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/increasing-low-end-torque/225442/19 "2012-08-26T20:22:23Z")
win ^ ---
**Author:** ![Nismo240SX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nismo240sx/32/5755_2.png) [@Nismo240SX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nismo240SX)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2012, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/increasing-low-end-torque/225442/20 "2012-08-26T21:16:17Z")
Vtec kicked in. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/increasing-low-end-torque/225442.md?page=2)