# Info on natural gas fire pit code/requirments?

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**Created:** [June 7, 2012, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/info-on-natural-gas-fire-pit-code-requirments/223676 "2012-06-07T19:24:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![MaximaSE98](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maximase98/32/7600_2.png) [@MaximaSE98](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MaximaSE98)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2012, 8:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/info-on-natural-gas-fire-pit-code-requirments/223676/21 "2012-06-08T08:31:47Z")

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if it was in PVC conduit it would have to be vented to atmosphere to detect any leaks they would consider that a double containment pipe…is the grill line set up in way u can Tee is before it goes under ground? like tee right at that valve

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**Author:** ![LAFENGAS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lafengas/32/7573_2.png) [@LAFENGAS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LAFENGAS)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2012, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/info-on-natural-gas-fire-pit-code-requirments/223676/22 "2012-06-08T08:56:55Z")

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> [@MaximaSE98](#):
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> if it was in PVC conduit it would have to be vented to atmosphere to detect any leaks they would consider that a double containment pipe…is the grill line set up in way u can Tee is before it goes under ground? like tee right at that valve

yes. I have the black pipe exiting the house, imediately to a 90° elbow, a 4" nipple then the shut off valve. from the valve, I just have the flex gasline straight to the grill.

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**Author:** ![MaximaSE98](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maximase98/32/7600_2.png) [@MaximaSE98](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MaximaSE98)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2012, 10:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/info-on-natural-gas-fire-pit-code-requirments/223676/23 "2012-06-08T10:25:04Z")

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thats your best bet then. to avoid fittings or unions underground i still prefer CSST…but thats me

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2012, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/info-on-natural-gas-fire-pit-code-requirments/223676/24 "2012-06-08T10:59:03Z")

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CSST is difficult to get your hands on if you’re not licensed though, at least from what I’ve read.

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**Author:** ![dreid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dreid/32/7388_2.png) [@dreid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dreid)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/info-on-natural-gas-fire-pit-code-requirments/223676/25 "2012-06-09T19:10:46Z")

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I was going to add i would ask once I get back to work on Tuesday but it seems like you’re good to go

MaximaSE98, where do you work??? NFG?

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**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/info-on-natural-gas-fire-pit-code-requirments/223676/26 "2012-06-09T20:28:47Z")

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They make a green coated iron pipe that is rated for direct burial. I am in the city of Buffalo and I was told that I have to be at 12" depth and leave the structure using that coated pipe. The inspector that I spoke with said that it is a corrosion barrier to keep the iron from rusting through. this is for a grill so the fire pit may be different but I doubt it… I will be replacing a street 90 in my basement with a tee and from the tee, iron to a shut off valve then out of the structure with the coated pipe so long as I can find it at HD or Lowes.

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**Author:** ![LAFENGAS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lafengas/32/7573_2.png) [@LAFENGAS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LAFENGAS)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2012, 6:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/info-on-natural-gas-fire-pit-code-requirments/223676/27 "2012-06-10T06:44:46Z")

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I’m going to go with the yellow corrugated flex pipe just for ease. I have found it for $3.00/ft.

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**Author:** ![breakstuff](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/breakstuff/32/5413_2.png) [@breakstuff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/breakstuff)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2012, 7:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/info-on-natural-gas-fire-pit-code-requirments/223676/28 "2012-06-10T07:40:31Z")

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These might be a little over the top for your application, but I know who I’m talking to…

![http://www.gastite.com/popup/images/prod_thumbs/riser-x-x_bg.jpg](http://www.gastite.com/popup/images/prod_thumbs/riser-x-x_bg.jpg)

These ends let you run your line inside a sealed steel conduit where it comes up, the rest is plastic, same as the gas company would use. Wrap it in a copper wire at both ends so its traceable if need be.

At the end of the day, you could just run flexy copper with flared fittings. However, I would not run copper in a steel conduit as they hate each other chemically and will leak in time due to dielectric corrosion. Just burry it bare and deep enough to avoid gardeners.

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 9:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/info-on-natural-gas-fire-pit-code-requirments/223676/29 "2012-06-14T09:12:05Z")

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I was advised by a foreman at work(NFG) you can go to any plumbing store and get plastic gas line. 5/8 or 1 inch like we use for svc lines and we bury the line 24-36 inches deep!!!

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**Author:** ![LAFENGAS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lafengas/32/7573_2.png) [@LAFENGAS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LAFENGAS)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/info-on-natural-gas-fire-pit-code-requirments/223676/30 "2012-06-14T11:51:20Z")

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I ordered CSST off Amazon. 25ft of 1/2" with fittings for $85.

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**Author:** ![MaximaSE98](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maximase98/32/7600_2.png) [@MaximaSE98](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MaximaSE98)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/info-on-natural-gas-fire-pit-code-requirments/223676/31 "2012-06-14T13:41:21Z")

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> [@breakstuff](#):
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> These might be a little over the top for your application, but I know who I’m talking to…
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> ![http://www.gastite.com/popup/images/prod_thumbs/riser-x-x_bg.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/8/0/80993e730a99fd6bacf5c6a5a7c1516affaa1045.jpeg)
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> These ends let you run your line inside a sealed steel conduit where it comes up, the rest is plastic, same as the gas company would use. Wrap it in a copper wire at both ends so its traceable if need be.
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> At the end of the day, you could just run flexy copper with flared fittings. However, I would not run copper in a steel conduit as they hate each other chemically and will leak in time due to dielectric corrosion. Just burry it bare and deep enough to avoid gardeners.

Thats the stuff

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**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/info-on-natural-gas-fire-pit-code-requirments/223676/32 "2012-06-14T14:01:00Z")

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FYI: I looked at all the different options and also decided on CSST… however it is not rated for direct burial. It must be in a conduit at least 2x the OD of the tubing and must be sealed at the outdoor end to prevent water from entering. I will be using duct seal to close off the open end of my 1" PVC that it is running in.

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/info-on-natural-gas-fire-pit-code-requirments/223676/33 "2012-06-14T14:33:28Z")

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> [@tpgsr](#):
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> FYI: I looked at all the different options and also decided on CSST… however it is not rated for direct burial. It must be in a conduit at least 2x the OD of the tubing and must be sealed at the outdoor end to prevent water from entering. I will be using duct seal to close off the open end of my 1" PVC that it is running in.

wait…crap. I thought I could bury the CSST as-is. It needs furthor protection? If that’s the case i’ll order the otherstuff.

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> [@breakstuff](#):
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> ![http://www.gastite.com/popup/images/prod_thumbs/riser-x-x_bg.jpg](http://www.gastite.com/popup/images/prod_thumbs/riser-x-x_bg.jpg)

Alright, just bought this stuff too. haha.

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/info-on-natural-gas-fire-pit-code-requirments/223676/34 "2012-06-14T14:39:23Z")

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Here in Texas my house has 3/8" copper about 12" under the sufce.

Jay you cant have a union underground. Just put one of those plastic valve boxes in and extend the line, then te fitting isn’t underground.

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/info-on-natural-gas-fire-pit-code-requirments/223676/35 "2012-06-14T14:48:45Z")

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I did one of these last year, gas line that is. Town of Hamburg inspected. Used plastic approved line buried 18-24" below grade. The riser pipes shown have a slip joint connection at the yellow end. You need a special tool to debur and flare the end for a one time shot at making a gas tight connection when you jam it in. I have some of the line left over, but I’m not sure exactly how much. I can borrow the flaring tool from my plumbing supplier. Otherwise you have to buy one. Town / local codes always supercede state / national code. Hamburg does not allow subgrade iron (black) pipe. I am in Hamburg.

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