# Innovative Tuning Vandelized!! **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [October 17, 2006, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/innovative-tuning-vandelized/18924 "2006-10-17T11:32:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![dozr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/41988e/32.png) [@dozr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dozr)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2006, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/innovative-tuning-vandelized/18924/61 "2006-10-17T20:41:43Z")
There are NO graffiti vandals in buffalo that have an ounce of artistic skill, nor have any regard for anyones property. Who the fuck is NSF?? This asshole has been ruining hertel ave on a daily basis, even digging NSF into the air conditioner at the new sushi bar on hertel. Seriously if I ever find any of these pricks I have a brick with NSF written on it for them. ---
**Author:** ![camarojoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c67d28/32.png) [@camarojoe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/camarojoe)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2006, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/innovative-tuning-vandelized/18924/62 "2006-10-17T21:07:08Z")
That sucks. Glad to hear it was taken care of so quickly. On another note. I didn’t know that your shop was just a few blocks from my house :tup: I thought you were in the southtowns for some reason. I’ll have to check out your shop sometime. ---
**Author:** ![King](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/king/32/7329_2.png) [@King](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/King)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2006, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/innovative-tuning-vandelized/18924/63 "2006-10-17T21:37:28Z")
> [@tinfoiledbrow](#): > > blah. go to hell. you sound like an idiot. do you smoke weed and play hacky sack too? ---
**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2006, 9:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/innovative-tuning-vandelized/18924/64 "2006-10-17T21:41:03Z")
Writer? HAHAHA you sound like a complete moron. Writer = Vandal. There are very few people out there I consider talented enough that their artwork should be displayed. But if they are that good, they are artists, not writers. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Russian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/the_russian/32/7414_2.png) [@The\_Russian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The_Russian)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2006, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/innovative-tuning-vandelized/18924/65 "2006-10-17T21:45:32Z")
Hows the roof on the building? and ledge, good enough for a sniper nest? i have some Gen 1 NV and a powerful airsoft gun that would deter most sane people. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2006, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/innovative-tuning-vandelized/18924/66 "2006-10-17T21:51:21Z")
“Writer” is the actual term for a graffiti artist. I’ve read plenty of books and seen documentaries on graffiti before. I find it interesting that rather than presenting any compelling arguments, you’ve simply resorted to name-calling. The former earns respect for your opinion, while the latter has the opposite effect. ---
**Author:** ![ezfd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ezfd/32/7334_2.png) [@ezfd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ezfd)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2006, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/innovative-tuning-vandelized/18924/67 "2006-10-17T22:00:15Z")
sorry to hear about the vandalism boys, thats fucking bullshit that people have nothing better to do than fuck up other peoples property. ---
**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2006, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/innovative-tuning-vandelized/18924/68 "2006-10-17T22:07:05Z")
People that bomb their name are pretty much retarded. cool…I see what you did there…your name…outstanding. but I still like graffiti ![http://www.banksy.co.uk/outdoors/images/LAout/LA_outside3.gif](http://www.banksy.co.uk/outdoors/images/LAout/LA_outside3.gif) But with the paint on the shop. Seems like the moron was trying to cause damage and be a pain in the ass. ---
**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2006, 10:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/innovative-tuning-vandelized/18924/69 "2006-10-17T22:08:47Z")
> [@tinfoiledbrow](#): > > “Writer” is the actual term for a graffiti artist. I’ve read plenty of books and seen documentaries on graffiti before. I find it interesting that rather than presenting any compelling arguments, you’ve simply resorted to name-calling. The former earns respect for your opinion, while the latter has the opposite effect. I’ll gladly debate art with you, I’ve got a bit of experience and knowledge on that playing field. 99% of the bull shit tagging I see is NOT art. I have seen some very nice stuff from a few talent individuals down in the Rochester Subway, but that’s a proper place for it to be done IMO. ---
**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2006, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/innovative-tuning-vandelized/18924/70 "2006-10-17T22:10:11Z")
> [@MPD47](#): > > I’ll gladly debate art with you, I’ve got a bit of experience and knowledge on that playing field. **99% of the bull shit tagging I see is NOT art**. I have seen some very nice stuff from a few talent individuals down in the Rochester Subway, but that’s a proper place for it to be done IMO. I think I hate people that do shit with markers the most. ---
**Author:** ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2006, 12:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/innovative-tuning-vandelized/18924/71 "2006-10-18T00:03:59Z")
> [@The\_Russian](#): > > Hows the roof on the building? and ledge, good enough for a sniper nest? i have some Gen 1 NV and a powerful airsoft gun that would deter most sane people. You scare me. ---
**Author:** ![OneFastMonkey](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onefastmonkey/32/7241_2.png) [@OneFastMonkey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OneFastMonkey)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2006, 4:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/innovative-tuning-vandelized/18924/72 "2006-10-18T04:39:08Z")
> [@tinfoiledbrow](#): > > “Writer” is the actual term for a graffiti artist. I’ve read plenty of books and seen documentaries on graffiti before. I find it interesting that rather than presenting any compelling arguments, you’ve simply resorted to name-calling. The former earns respect for your opinion, while the latter has the opposite effect. What a fucking idiot. Maybe you did it, and in that case deserve a foot up your ass. Just maybe you got this website off of the building and decided to come brag about what you did. :shrug: ---
**Author:** ![MaximaSE98](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maximase98/32/7600_2.png) [@MaximaSE98](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MaximaSE98)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2006, 5:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/innovative-tuning-vandelized/18924/73 "2006-10-18T05:20:01Z")
Even if some of it is “art” there is a place for it…not on places of business or bridges…but private areas u want to rattle can a fucking wall do it in ur backyard ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2006, 5:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/innovative-tuning-vandelized/18924/74 "2006-10-18T05:48:35Z")
eh, i’m totally on-board with tinfoiledbrow… The shit done on IT was probably lame… but i think people who tag abandoned buildings and bridges actually add alot to the landscape. ATAK has made alot of sweet tags in riverside/buff state area. Shit there is a tag he made off the 198 that looks like it required rapelling gear. Defacing a legitimate, operating business is lame, however. I think even alot of bad graffitti looks alot better than a decayed buffalo buildings… someone who speaks in the manner that TFB does obviously has enough respect and knowledge not to tag the front of an operating business… ---
**Author:** ![Xander](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xander/32/7597_2.png) [@Xander](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Xander)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2006, 6:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/innovative-tuning-vandelized/18924/75 "2006-10-18T06:05:47Z")
So noobs sign on just to talk about Graffiti? I smell the BAN stick. X… ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2006, 6:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/innovative-tuning-vandelized/18924/76 "2006-10-18T06:32:07Z")
> [@tinfoiledbrow](#): > > Hey I saw one of my friends reading this thread and I just wanted to chime in on this subject. A lot of **VANDALS** do very **ILLEGAL** and **DAMAGING** work. **THEY CANNOT BE COMPARED TO** banksy who painted [this](http://www.eskimoblood.de/wp-images/blog/banksy.jpg) on the wall between Israel and Palestine. Many **VANDALS** have a vision of **GETTING ATTENTION** by **VANDALIZING** public property. Murals under bridges, in the parks, etc. It’s against the law yes, but there **ARE NO PARENTS TEACHING THEM RESPECT FOR OTHER PEOPLE’S PROPERTY**. Especially if it’s **DEFACING SOMETHING THEY DON’T OWN THAT WILL DETER THAT AREA AND BUILDING EVER BEING USED AGAIN**. > > Obviously, this **VANDAL** doesn’t understand the difference between public and private property, and is immature and highly disrespectful. The only **SOLUTION** comes in when you **CATCH** **THESE VANDALS** , and report **THESE DELIQUENTS** to the authorities. All “writers” vandalize someone’s private property, **BE IT PRIVATE OR THE PUBLIC’S** and you **ARE** hating on or turning in a **VANDAL** who is very **UN** aware and **DIS** respectful of the line between expression and disrespect. And there can **AND SHOULD** be some serious penalties for these types of things. > > Just hope that everyone here understands that like many groups in life, the assholes and n00bs among them **NEED TO BE STOPPED EARLY** , and **VANDALISM SUCH AS GRAFFITI BRINGS DOWN PROPERTY VALUES AND DETERS DEVELOPMENT OF LOW INCOME.** There, I fixed it for you. Jackass. Vandalism -\> Ghetto -\> No Business Wants To Be There -\> No Development Of Low Income Area -\> Ghetto. Repeat. ---
**Author:** ![Adictd2b00st](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/adictd2b00st/32/7625_2.png) [@Adictd2b00st](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Adictd2b00st)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2006, 6:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/innovative-tuning-vandelized/18924/77 "2006-10-18T06:36:04Z")
> [@newman](#): > > eh, i’m totally on-board with tinfoiledbrow… The shit done on IT was probably lame… but i think people who tag abandoned buildings and bridges actually add alot to the landscape. ATAK has made alot of sweet tags in riverside/buff state area. Shit there is a tag he made off the 198 that looks like it required rapelling gear. Defacing a legitimate, operating business is lame, however. I think even alot of bad graffitti looks alot better than a decayed buffalo buildings… someone who speaks in the manner that TFB does obviously has enough respect and knowledge not to tag the front of an operating business… you can keep trying to sugarcoat it all you want, but still the fact is its NOT YOUR PROPERTY SO YOU HAVE NO RIGHT SPRAYING IT > [@BikerFry](#): > > There, I fixed it for you. Jackass. Vandalism -\> Ghetto -\> No Business Wants To Be There -\> No Development Of Low Income Area -\> Ghetto. Repeat. x10 ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2006, 6:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/innovative-tuning-vandelized/18924/78 "2006-10-18T06:47:45Z")
i’m not trying to sugarcoat it. It’s illegal, yeah, but i think it’s pretty sweet, as long as it doesn’t affect me, or people i know, directly. Marker tags and shitty one color 20 second tags are lame though. It’s just how i feel. ---
**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2006, 6:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/innovative-tuning-vandelized/18924/79 "2006-10-18T06:55:10Z")
> [@newman](#): > > i’m not trying to sugarcoat it. It’s illegal, yeah, but i think it’s pretty sweet, as long as it doesn’t affect me, or people i know, directly. Marker tags and shitty one color 20 second tags are lame though. It’s just how i feel. Its pretty rare that I ever see anything that required artistic talent. Usually is just “Krystal \<3 Jermaine” or some bullshit. Stuff like this would be cool…but not on other’s property. ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2006, 7:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/innovative-tuning-vandelized/18924/80 "2006-10-18T07:02:14Z")
> [@JaysGreenLX](#): > > Its pretty rare that I ever see anything that required artistic talent. Usually is just “Krystal \<3 Jermaine” or some bullshit. > > Stuff like this would be cool…but not on other’s property. As i mentioned earlier… tags by ATAK are pretty sweet… not real artsy, but creative and cool… [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/innovative-tuning-vandelized/18924.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/innovative-tuning-vandelized/18924.md?page=5)