# Input on F&F

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**Category:** SON240sx Automotive\
**Created:** [March 10, 2009, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/input-on-f-f/122460 "2009-03-10T16:01:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![GTS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@GTS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GTS)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 6:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/input-on-f-f/122460/43 "2009-03-12T06:45:11Z")

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> [@\#######POST PICS OF YOUR MUD MACHINE#######](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/post-pics-of-your-mud-machine/20261/75):
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> The thing is, our cars actually have a different kind of potential than other imports do (and some domestics, ie. Neons, Cavaliers, and the like).

I’m curious to know…

What ‘other kind’ of potential do 240’s have that other cars don’t?

> [@\#######POST PICS OF YOUR MUD MACHINE#######](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/post-pics-of-your-mud-machine/20261/75):
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> I’m not saying that our cars are better due to the fact that they’re RWD, I’m saying that due to the fact that there will be a parking lot filled with stock, semi-stock, and cleanly modified 240’s. Our group is a little different than most. Of course there’s riced out 240’s out there, but how many riced out 240’s are in our group?

When there are gatherings, what makes 240’s ‘a little different’ than most? What determines ‘other riced out’ cars that is so different than a ‘riced out’ 240?

> [@\#######POST PICS OF YOUR MUD MACHINE#######](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/post-pics-of-your-mud-machine/20261/75):
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> Now take any other group, Hondas, Toyotas, Mitsubishi/DSM. If any of you scout their forums, there’s more ricers that stick out than the number of ricers we have.

Ignorant, irrelevant statement unless you can prove this. I have scouted their forums, I’d like to know how you came to the conclusion that they have more ‘ricers that stick out’ than 240’s do.

> [@\#######POST PICS OF YOUR MUD MACHINE#######](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/post-pics-of-your-mud-machine/20261/75):
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> I’ve seen and am friends with a few people with riced out cars. But honestly, them and their ricer friends, I did notice a similar trend with them. Yes, they think their cars are hot shit, and yes they think their car was a de-tuned race car from the factory. But what I did notice was that deep down, they do know that they are ricers, they’re just sometimes unable or feel shamed to admit it.

Your friends think their cars are hot shit…while 240 owners don’t have the same mentality? 240 owners don’t think their cars are de-tuned race cars from factory? Please say that isn’t so!

Other car owners all know they are ricers but are unable to to feel shame? So Nissan owners AREN’T ricers who are unable to feel shame so they don’t admit? Or they do feel shame but they just don’t admit? Or are you trying to say there’s no such thing as a 240sx ricer?

> [@\#######POST PICS OF YOUR MUD MACHINE#######](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/post-pics-of-your-mud-machine/20261/75):
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> I have a friend with a riced to the max Civic. And don’t put me on this, its not my choice he has the most popular ricer car in the world, I’m just telling you what he says. He’s got a ton of shit done to his car. AEM fuel rail, NGK this, AEM cold air intake that, 2.5" exhaust, VTEC head swap, whatever, I can’t remember them all.

So your friend has had all that done to his car…I’m confused by your sentences, are you saying that he’s rice because he’s done these mods to his car? Or he’s rice because he has a Civic? Or is he rice simply because he’s had a ‘ton of shit’ done to his car?

Personally, I don’t see anything wrong with the mods you have listed. But those would disagree can certainly let me know - perhaps in my ignorance, I don’t see the ‘rice’ in those mods.

> [@\#######POST PICS OF YOUR MUD MACHINE#######](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/post-pics-of-your-mud-machine/20261/75):
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> Him knowing my car, he still admits that I might have it. I highly doubt it, since its a feather-weight bubble hatch, and I’m not one to brag about my car, but with only a 3" torque-losing catback and a short-ram intake, thats not bad. He can admit that with the amount of money he’s dumped into his car, my near-stock car might still have a chance. Deep down they know that money could’ve been spent better elsewhere…

I just need a little clarification on this last part:

He admits that you’ll have ‘what?’ You will still have a chance at…? Beating him in quarter-mile or road-track?

You’ve given quite a bit of thought on the topic - so I’d like to see what other justifications there are to your aforementioned statements. I want you to understand that I’m not trying to bust your chops - I’m simply trying to understand a different point of view from my own.

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