# Inspection Question: **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [July 29, 2008, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/inspection-question/52351 "2008-07-29T12:44:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2008, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/inspection-question/52351/1 "2008-07-29T12:44:11Z")
A friend of mine went to get his truck inspected and they said it failed for the following reasons: Displaying an air conditioning code. Bad ball joints. The check engine light is not on. Is there even such a code? I don’t think I have ever heard of one. Also, he just replaced the wheel bearings and says the ball joints were ok. The thing that sucks is that the garage is owned by a relative of his. Do you think this stuff would fail him, or that he is getting ripped off. The truck is a 2002 Ram 1500. Let me know what you think. ---
**Author:** ![OfficerK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4da419/32.png) [@OfficerK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OfficerK)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2008, 12:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/inspection-question/52351/2 "2008-07-29T12:45:35Z")
Its possible the code came up, then cleared…or the CEL light just isn’t designed to stay on for that code. ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2008, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/inspection-question/52351/3 "2008-07-29T12:47:08Z")
Ball Joints do not have a spec from the factory. Ball joints are a safety issue FOR SURE. If its a relative, maybe he was looking out for your friends safety? Oh… your friend says the BJs are good…? ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2008, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/inspection-question/52351/4 "2008-07-29T12:47:53Z")
… > [@NYSI second opinion](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nysi-second-opinion/47294/20): > > Oh great the balljoint thing. > > wanna know why balljoints are not part of inspection- 2 reasons > > 1. theres no factory spec for what is allowable wear. > > 2. back in the 60’s-70’s ball joints were part of inspection. Know what the inspectors did- they put a friggen 3 foot pry bar to the suspension and said see it’s bad. If you take a 3 foot pry bar to anything that has to have some play so it can move/swivel i’m pretty sure its gonna move. ---
**Author:** ![Avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avatar/32/5076_2.png) [@Avatar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Avatar)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2008, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/inspection-question/52351/5 "2008-07-29T13:16:31Z")
Tell him to go somewhere else. Not like it’s a big deal… ---
**Author:** ![97FormulaWS-6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/97formulaws-6/32/7384_2.png) [@97FormulaWS-6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97FormulaWS-6)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2008, 1:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/inspection-question/52351/6 "2008-07-29T13:20:22Z")
Ball joints are something that can be failed for; they are a safety thing… having one fail at 55mph is NOT fun (ask me how I know???); the AC code is a non-emissions code which is not a reason for failure. ---
**Author:** ![Pauly](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pauly/32/7493_2.png) [@Pauly](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pauly)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2008, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/inspection-question/52351/7 "2008-07-29T13:56:52Z")
nope not gonna ---
**Author:** ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2008, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/inspection-question/52351/8 "2008-07-29T16:23:32Z")
Ball joints are not part of NYSI. Someone sticky this shit ---
**Author:** ![JustinH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9fc29f/32.png) [@JustinH](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JustinH)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2008, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/inspection-question/52351/9 "2008-07-29T16:25:39Z")
How does the obd2 test work? Do they plug into the system, then the computer says if it passes or not? It should say fail under the obd2 printout of the inspection if that was the case. As for balljoints, if they are bad then replace them. Allowable wear to one person is different than another one. My mechanic says that if the part is about to break, or is not doing its purpose in the suspension and it is going to cause a safety issue then it won’t pass. But parts will wear, and not be like brand new and still pass. ---
**Author:** ![Joe\_Omerta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Joe\_Omerta](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe_Omerta)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2008, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/inspection-question/52351/10 "2008-07-29T16:28:48Z")
Ball joints ARE part of NYSI, if they are EXCESSIVELY worn or disconnected or broken, they fail. they are allowed to have some play but if they’re loose enough that it visually affects your alignment, then they can fail. What sucks about NYSI is that it’s all play on words and is up to the inspector. ---
**Author:** ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2008, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/inspection-question/52351/11 "2008-07-29T16:33:47Z")
Do me a favor and please read my thread on NYS inspection. ---
**Author:** ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2008, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/inspection-question/52351/12 "2008-07-29T16:34:23Z")
[http://nyspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54653](http://nyspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54653) ---
**Author:** ![Pauly](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pauly/32/7493_2.png) [@Pauly](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pauly)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2008, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/inspection-question/52351/13 "2008-07-29T18:19:34Z")
LOL visually out of alignment= Broken and spindle laying on the ground. You cant tell me that you can see a 1/4-1/2" of alignment out from standing in front of the car. If you can you should apply at hunter engineering to be a human alignment machine ---
**Author:** ![The\_Russian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/the_russian/32/7414_2.png) [@The\_Russian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The_Russian)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2008, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/inspection-question/52351/14 "2008-07-29T18:23:35Z")
I had a ball joint fail on my buick doing 5 miles an hour, NOT FUN took out the CV shaft too. The shop says that theres no way to tell when they will go, since with mine they cant be lubed. The other one could last 30,000 more miles or 300, no way to tell, they just pop when they want to. Better to be safe then sorry. ---
**Author:** ![nitroinsane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d26b3c/32.png) [@nitroinsane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nitroinsane)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2008, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/inspection-question/52351/15 "2008-07-29T19:07:50Z")
yes you can you can shake them for play > [@The\_Russian](#): > > I had a ball joint fail on my buick doing 5 miles an hour, NOT FUN > > took out the CV shaft too. > > The shop says that theres no way to tell when they will go, since with mine they cant be lubed. > > The other one could last 30,000 more miles or 300, no way to tell, they just pop when they want to. > > Better to be safe then sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Cavi\_Mike](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cavi_mike/32/5217_2.png) [@Cavi\_Mike](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cavi_Mike)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2008, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/inspection-question/52351/16 "2008-07-29T19:16:53Z")
> [@Carnut](#): > > [http://nyspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54653](http://nyspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54653) I think it’s funny when you guys post links to that forum. In case you haven’t noticed, not all of us have access to it. ---
**Author:** ![ImportMuscle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/importmuscle/32/7615_2.png) [@ImportMuscle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ImportMuscle)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2008, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/inspection-question/52351/17 "2008-07-29T19:20:30Z")
> [@The\_Russian](#): > > The other one could last 30,000 more miles or 300, no way to tell, they just pop when they want to. > > Better to be safe then sorry. fucking :picard: Place jack under lower control arm. jack vehicle up using jack under lower control arm. (thus relieving tension on the steering components on that side) Grab wheel Tug vigorously back and forth and up and down. Up and down movement = ball joint play Left and right movement = tie rod play excessive play = bad. Lemme guess your the type of guy who runs out to pepboys and bends over every time something breaks on your car. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Russian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/the_russian/32/7414_2.png) [@The\_Russian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The_Russian)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2008, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/inspection-question/52351/18 "2008-07-29T19:28:42Z")
OR play can be the wheel bearing assembly… ---
**Author:** ![Cavi\_Mike](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cavi_mike/32/5217_2.png) [@Cavi\_Mike](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cavi_Mike)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2008, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/inspection-question/52351/19 "2008-07-29T19:43:06Z")
You’re most likely going to hear a bearing making noise before it ever gets bad enough to get sloppy. ---
**Author:** ![ubengineering](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ubengineering/32/5171_2.png) [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2008, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/inspection-question/52351/20 "2008-07-29T19:51:33Z")
your frend should have passed [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/inspection-question/52351.md?page=2)