# Intake & Exhaust manifolds

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/intake-exhaust-manifolds/796>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [July 13, 2005, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/intake-exhaust-manifolds/796 "2005-07-13T21:18:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![Z24Challenge](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/z24challenge/32/7231_2.png) [@Z24Challenge](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Z24Challenge)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/intake-exhaust-manifolds/796/1 "2005-07-13T21:18:40Z")

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Would it be worth it to pick up an Intake manny, TB, and Exhaust manny from the boneyard, bore them myself with a dremel, and expect decent gains?

I’m not expecting an extra 300 horsepower here, just an extra .1-.5 or so shaved off my times… but would doing this help?

How hard would it be?

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**Author:** ![jrex](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jrex/32/7232_2.png) [@jrex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jrex)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/intake-exhaust-manifolds/796/2 "2005-07-14T13:46:27Z")

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You might see a couple extra horse from doing this. A lot of people with WRXs port out their stock exhaust manifold collectors instead of buying a header. A good aftermarket header on a subaru will net you 20 or so whp, and I’m sure with people’s home port job, they aren’t anywhere close due to the inferior design of the manifold. Just port-matching between the motor and the manifolds helps flow and spool up a tiny bit. You might see gains, but it probably won’t be noticeable.

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**Author:** ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/intake-exhaust-manifolds/796/3 "2005-07-14T14:48:02Z")

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Good luck with a dremel… Go with a die grinder of sorts. 20krpm or so on an electric one that you can pick up at Harbor freight for around $30…

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**Author:** ![whitenblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/da6949/32.png) [@whitenblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/whitenblue)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/intake-exhaust-manifolds/796/4 "2005-07-14T15:06:19Z")

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why dont u just pick up a 2.3 HO intake manifold and TB… buy a spacer off jbody for like $10 and slap that shit on. only problem you might run into is that your linkage might snag- but you can fab as you go to make it clear… not a huge project- but it should give you a better gain than just porting out your stockie…which…i believe is plastic… goodluck with that… whore over on j-body- there’re a thousand posts on the ‘swap’…

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**Author:** ![Z24Challenge](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/z24challenge/32/7231_2.png) [@Z24Challenge](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Z24Challenge)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 3:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/intake-exhaust-manifolds/796/5 "2005-07-14T15:11:06Z")

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Rubicant, my dremel will run up to either 15K or 20K, and I have that stupid long attachment that SHOULD work.

whitenblue, I was also entertaining the idea of the 2.3 manifold. I’ll have to search the boneyards for a complete setup though, I’d like to upgrade the TB as well, seeing that my car comes stock with a 52mm, and the 2.3 has a 56mm.

The only things I’ve read about the swap so far that concern me, is hooking up the sensors, and the linkage to work properly, without throwing codes.

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**Author:** ![whitenblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/da6949/32.png) [@whitenblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/whitenblue)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/intake-exhaust-manifolds/796/6 "2005-07-14T15:14:43Z")

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i think Nick (DJ Nick) had a mani/TB… if not- there’s always one for sale in the classifieds on jbody. dont even waste your time with the stock manifold… it’s crap.

the linkage is as simple as fabbing a bracket to allow the linkage ot clear. and as for codes- you deal with those as you go- if you even throw any. it’s hit and miss- some cars throw them, some dont.

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**Author:** ![Z24Challenge](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/z24challenge/32/7231_2.png) [@Z24Challenge](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Z24Challenge)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 3:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/intake-exhaust-manifolds/796/7 "2005-07-14T15:19:27Z")

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I was thinking about checking with M&M.

Any idea on their flat rate for Intake mans. & TBs ?

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**Author:** ![ly555is](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3bc359/32.png) [@ly555is](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ly555is)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/intake-exhaust-manifolds/796/8 "2005-07-14T15:29:21Z")

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crap - i used to have a price list - it really can’t be very much, their shit is dirt cheap :tup:

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**Author:** ![Z24Challenge](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/z24challenge/32/7231_2.png) [@Z24Challenge](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Z24Challenge)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/intake-exhaust-manifolds/796/9 "2005-07-14T15:40:42Z")

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Joel, if they sell engines and trannys for $100 flat (IIRC) the TB and manny shouldn’t be more than $30.

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 11:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/intake-exhaust-manifolds/796/10 "2005-07-14T23:51:22Z")

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Forget the dremel, it isn’t about RPM as much as it is about torque. You need an eletric 1/4 die grinder or an air die grinder. The dremel will take you weeks

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**Author:** ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2005, 1:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/intake-exhaust-manifolds/796/11 "2005-07-15T01:24:52Z")

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> [@JnJSpdShop](#):
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> Forget the dremel, it isn’t about RPM as much as it is about torque. You need an eletric 1/4 die grinder or an air die grinder. The dremel will take you weeks

That’s the point I was trying to get at. The dremel doesn’t have enough juice to chew up the cast iron exhaust manifold like a nice 4amp+ die grinder does.

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**Author:** ![Z24Challenge](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/z24challenge/32/7231_2.png) [@Z24Challenge](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Z24Challenge)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2005, 2:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/intake-exhaust-manifolds/796/12 "2005-07-15T02:17:14Z")

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Ahhh ok, now it’s making a bit more sense…

And ballpark… what would a die grinder sell for?

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**Author:** ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2005, 3:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/intake-exhaust-manifolds/796/13 "2005-07-15T03:23:43Z")

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> [@RuBiCaNT](#):
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> you can pick up at Harbor freight for around $30…

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**Author:** ![jrex](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jrex/32/7232_2.png) [@jrex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jrex)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2005, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/intake-exhaust-manifolds/796/14 "2005-07-15T14:00:15Z")

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And make sure you pick up some decent bits too, because I’m sure they get chewed up pretty quick.
