# interesting read \*\*it works too\*\*

**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/interesting-read-it-works-too/6147
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic
**Created:** [December 27, 2005, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/interesting-read-it-works-too/6147 "2005-12-27T12:05:35Z")
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### Author: ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2005, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/interesting-read-it-works-too/6147/21 "2005-12-28T10:58:53Z")

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> [@RuBiCaNT](#):
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> Do you think the meatheads at Adelphia can figure out that you are getting cable at a high amount of speed or is it buried deep enough that only a netmon or some network diagnostics are going to find?

As far as the networking side, it’s probably possible I’d imagine and if you started blantly abusing it you would probably be shutdown for a week or so.

As far calling Tech Support, they can see what the modem is set to. But most of the people there are too stupid to know what the word bandwidth means, let alone down or upsteam with exception of maybe 10% of the people there pretty much would apply to any cable carrier. And even then they really couldn’t do anything about it.

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### Author: ![itsJim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c67d28/32.png) [@itsJim](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/itsJim)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2005, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/interesting-read-it-works-too/6147/22 "2005-12-28T10:59:21Z")

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There have been news articles on people doing this only to have the FBI knocking on there door. Here was a quick google: [http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2002Nov/gee20021122017460.htm](http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2002Nov/gee20021122017460.htm)

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### Author: ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2005, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/interesting-read-it-works-too/6147/23 "2005-12-28T11:18:17Z")

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> [@RuBiCaNT](#):
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> Do you think the meatheads at Adelphia can figure out that you are getting cable at a high amount of speed or is it buried deep enough that only a netmon or some network diagnostics are going to find?

not with sigma they cant, i disable snmp and everything else they can see.

Im totally hidden from them and even with a scan they will see my modem as being normal.

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### Author: ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2005, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/interesting-read-it-works-too/6147/24 "2005-12-28T11:23:01Z")

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> [@tpgsr](#):
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> DAMN!!  
> this is the report at my office on adelphia business
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> 2005-12-28 13:44:26 EST: 1321 / 422  
> Your download speed : 1321 kbps or 165.1 KB/sec.  
> Your upload speed : 422 kbps or 52.8 KB/sec.
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> How long did it take you to do the flash, and tweak the settings? and 1-5 how hard would it be for someone who knows a little something to do this?

hmm your business doesnt have the business package then, cause thats bordering on speeds of a partial t line. Tell them to upgrade to the extreme package 🙂

i would say if you know nothing about this, a 5, there is alot involved, and alot of networking thigs going on, especially since adelphia uses md5 and tftp enforce, most other isps are very lax in security, but adelphia isnt. flashing takes 5 seconds, and getting sigma installed takes less.

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### Author: ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2005, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/interesting-read-it-works-too/6147/25 "2005-12-28T11:23:52Z")

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> [@FuzzyFish](#):
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> As far as the networking side, it’s probably possible I’d imagine and if you started blantly abusing it you would probably be shutdown for a week or so.
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> As far calling Tech Support, they can see what the modem is set to. But most of the people there are too stupid to know what the word bandwidth means, let alone down or upsteam with exception of maybe 10% of the people there pretty much would apply to any cable carrier. And even then they really couldn’t do anything about it.

lol i hear ya, thats the advantage of turning snmp off, they cant get into my modem

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#### Post date: [December 28, 2005, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/interesting-read-it-works-too/6147/26 "2005-12-28T11:24:27Z")

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> [@BuickGN](#):
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> i disable snmp

As long as you don’t go too crazy with uncapping, really the only way they could tell at that point is when the modem boots and the DHCP logs are missing the fireware request/acknoledgement. And I’d highly doubt anyone would even notice that.

Without snmp though for the most part yeah they would be blind.

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### Author: ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2005, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/interesting-read-it-works-too/6147/27 "2005-12-28T11:24:37Z")

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> [@itsJim](#):
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> There have been news articles on people doing this only to have the FBI knocking on there door. Here was a quick google: [http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2002Nov/gee20021122017460.htm](http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2002Nov/gee20021122017460.htm)

yeah they can do that for downloading mp3s too

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### Author: ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2005, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/interesting-read-it-works-too/6147/28 "2005-12-28T11:26:06Z")

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> [@FuzzyFish](#):
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> As long as you don’t go too crazy with uncapping, really the only way they could tell at that point is when the modem boots and the DHCP logs are missing the fireware request/acknoledgement.
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> And I’d highly doubt anyone would even notice that.

its really just a hobby for me, i like to mess with shit, but as far as everyday operation goes with adelphia. they cannnot tell im doing anything, thats what makes sigma so great.

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#### Post date: [December 28, 2005, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/interesting-read-it-works-too/6147/29 "2005-12-28T11:27:52Z")

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Indeed it does :tup:

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### Author: ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2005, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/interesting-read-it-works-too/6147/30 "2005-12-28T11:29:10Z")

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i take it you work there?

i got some questions if u do, just basic service stuff, nothing about what im doing.

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#### Post date: [December 29, 2005, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/interesting-read-it-works-too/6147/31 "2005-12-29T08:10:56Z")

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lol u know adelphia really needs to hire folks who know what the fuck is going on, turns out they commisioned my old MAC to my new modem and on top of that they had me in the wrong ip range, lol dummies!!!. So now im finally where im supposed to be, and i also asked them about extreme, he said withen 6 months it should be here 59.00 a month 16/2

gunna need a new modem tho, since its DOCSIS 2

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### Author: ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)
#### Post date: [December 29, 2005, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/interesting-read-it-works-too/6147/32 "2005-12-29T09:49:24Z")

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> In the beginning there was dial-up, and it was slow; then came broadband in the form of cable, which redefined how we access the internet, share information, and communicate with each other online. Ha ...

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The book is over 25 chapters that include: diagrams, source code, unpublished hacking secrets, hacking tutorials for many non-surfboard modems, quick and easy reference guides. Enough information that would enpower its reader to conquer any cable modem.

I would pre-order it immediatly because this book “may” get pulled from shelves as a result from threatening ISP’s

i just ordered this, if ur interested on how this shit works or whatever id pre order one also

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