# IPAD 2 VS. IPAD 3 **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [March 13, 2012, 6:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ipad-2-vs-ipad-3/221175 "2012-03-13T06:11:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2012, 6:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ipad-2-vs-ipad-3/221175/101 "2012-03-22T06:50:37Z")
> [@boxxa](#): > > This is why I switched to Mac. That and XCode. The ultrabooks looked pretty cool tho but from what I saw, they are priced just like a MacBook Air. > > If you don’t like what I like, you are wrong. > > I am not talking about help desk issues with the settings. I am talking about the actual 802.11 spec and how it handles things such as over the air modulation. I’ll look into that. Any suggestions? I just hate 99% of the apple consumers that buy an Apple product because it’s “Better” but can’t give one reason why they bought it or why they needed to upgrade. If you buy a Apple product and have legitimate reasons and it works better for you than X device, more power to ya. The majority of the users are braindead consumers who know nothing about technology at all. > [@boardjnky4](#): > > They will fix the wifi issue. > > How many other devices on the market come out and are riddled with bugs? Android bug lists are very long, so don’t kid yourself like Apple is the only ones. Motorola android devices were terribly buggy last year. Even the Galaxy Nexus has its share of issues, and it’s been many months since the release with no updates. Unless you count 4.0.3 which was prompted as soon as you booted the device, at least in January. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2012, 6:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ipad-2-vs-ipad-3/221175/102 "2012-03-22T06:54:13Z")
We stuck my 80 year old grandmother in front a an iMac took minimal time now she sends email/browses the web etc when she can barley work her satellite tv… I can take the same machine drop down to a terminal write and compile something in C, run any Unix command I want, create python scripts run them, use nmap etc. ---
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2012, 7:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ipad-2-vs-ipad-3/221175/103 "2012-03-22T07:12:46Z")
> [@ProgRocker](#): > > I’ll look into that. Any suggestions? I just hate 99% of the apple consumers that buy an Apple product because it’s “Better” but can’t give one reason why they bought it or why they needed to upgrade. If you buy a Apple product and have legitimate reasons and it works better for you than X device, more power to ya. The majority of the users are braindead consumers who know nothing about technology at all. You are still missing the fact that Apple, as a business, tailors to the really basic consumer who knows nothing about computers and how they work. They don’t care they are running 2 cores instead of 6, 2GB of RAM and not 8, or a dedicated GPU or a shared processor. Their software across all their products keeps the same navigation, interface, and structure using the Apple design guidelines (see below). It is their model and 90% of Apple users don’t know what is in their PC, they use it for a purpose and that is it. They have said this is their model for years when they came out with the iPod. It had a damn wheel on it the thing to scroll through menus with a click to select and their iPhone has one freaking button on it. It is SIMPLE. For the power users, it is a powerful platform. I love the \*nix base and can really do work on it but again, Apple is aimed at consumers who do not know anything about computers and just want something to work but still has some openness for the true power users who run their systems to the max. [https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/AppleHIGuidelines/Intro/Intro.html#//apple\_ref/doc/uid/TP30000894-TP6](https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/AppleHIGuidelines/Intro/Intro.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP30000894-TP6) [https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/#DOCUMENTATION/UserExperience/Conceptual/MobileHIG/UIElementGuidelines/UIElementGuidelines.html#//apple\_ref/doc/uid/TP40006556-CH13-SW1](https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/#DOCUMENTATION/UserExperience/Conceptual/MobileHIG/UIElementGuidelines/UIElementGuidelines.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40006556-CH13-SW1) ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2012, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ipad-2-vs-ipad-3/221175/104 "2012-03-22T07:15:31Z")
You would have this issue with Microsoft but nobody likes them :lol: ---
**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2012, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ipad-2-vs-ipad-3/221175/105 "2012-03-22T07:15:54Z")
> [@ProgRocker](#): > > On the Play market, I think it will become a lot like Windows. Stay away from the shady/shitty apps and you won’t have a problem. I’ve never encountered an issue that I can recall. You have a brain. Most people think that in order to justify having the phone/service they need to download EVERY APP EVER MADE EVER. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2012, 8:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ipad-2-vs-ipad-3/221175/106 "2012-03-22T08:49:44Z")
> [@ProgRocker](#): > > I’ll look into that. Any suggestions? I just hate 99% of the apple consumers that buy an Apple product because it’s “Better” but can’t give one reason why they bought it or why they needed to upgrade. If you buy a Apple product and have legitimate reasons and it works better for you than X device, more power to ya. The majority of the users are braindead consumers who know nothing about technology at all. > > Unless you count 4.0.3 which was prompted as soon as you booted the device, at least in January. That is actually 4.0.2, and it still has a TON of issues outstanding. ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2012, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ipad-2-vs-ipad-3/221175/107 "2012-03-22T11:21:03Z")
> [@boxxa](#): > > You are still missing the fact that Apple, as a business, tailors to the really basic consumer who knows nothing about computers and how they work. They don’t care they are running 2 cores instead of 6, 2GB of RAM and not 8, or a dedicated GPU or a shared processor. Their software across all their products keeps the same navigation, interface, and structure using the Apple design guidelines (see below). It is their model and 90% of Apple users don’t know what is in their PC, they use it for a purpose and that is it. They have said this is their model for years when they came out with the iPod. It had a damn wheel on it the thing to scroll through menus with a click to select and their iPhone has one freaking button on it. It is SIMPLE. > > For the power users, it is a powerful platform. I love the \*nix base and can really do work on it but again, Apple is aimed at consumers who do not know anything about computers and just want something to work but still has some openness for the true power users who run their systems to the max. > > [https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/AppleHIGuidelines/Intro/Intro.html#//apple\_ref/doc/uid/TP30000894-TP6](https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/AppleHIGuidelines/Intro/Intro.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP30000894-TP6) > > [https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/#DOCUMENTATION/UserExperience/Conceptual/MobileHIG/UIElementGuidelines/UIElementGuidelines.html#//apple\_ref/doc/uid/TP40006556-CH13-SW1](https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/#DOCUMENTATION/UserExperience/Conceptual/MobileHIG/UIElementGuidelines/UIElementGuidelines.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40006556-CH13-SW1) Oh I totally understand that Apple is tailoring to the “It’s new and shiny” people. Again I’ll give them that credit as well, they build their products very nicely, package nicely, interface is slick and smooth. > [@boardjnky4](#): > > That is actually 4.0.2, and it still has a TON of issues outstanding. Damn that’s what I meant, I’ve been reading Droid-Life too much and got my versions mixed. I’ve had some issues with reboots, but the leaked 4.0.4 apparently fixes that. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2012, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ipad-2-vs-ipad-3/221175/108 "2012-03-22T11:43:42Z")
> [@ProgRocker](#): > > Damn that’s what I meant, I’ve been reading Droid-Life too much and got my versions mixed. I’ve had some issues with reboots, but the leaked 4.0.4 apparently fixes that. Don’t worry, by the time Android gets the bugs worked out they’ll have discontinued support for the OS on your phone. How many handsets can **officially** (aka, no rooting) install ice cream sandwich again? ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2012, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ipad-2-vs-ipad-3/221175/109 "2012-03-22T11:49:47Z")
lol all the forks of android isn’t good for it ☹ The mobile app security field is huge right now and its mostly android shit ---
**Author:** ![OriginalSterm](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/originalsterm/32/4964_2.png) [@OriginalSterm](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OriginalSterm)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2012, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ipad-2-vs-ipad-3/221175/110 "2012-03-22T11:53:00Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > Don’t worry, by the time Android gets the bugs worked out they’ll have discontinued support for the OS on your phone. How many handsets can **officially** (aka, no rooting) install ice cream sandwich again? No kidding. I figured my Droid X2 with it’s fancy dual core processor would be enough to handle ICS. Apparently not… ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2012, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ipad-2-vs-ipad-3/221175/111 "2012-03-22T12:04:14Z")
JayS, I have THE officially Google supported Galaxy Nexus. I expect it will easily last for 2 years worth of updates and will likely be the first devices to receive such updates. Leaked information points to a major bug fix release next month. If it wasn’t for the fact that the Galaxy Nexus is available on Verizon, I would probably be an iPhone user by now. I was really disappointed that iPhone 4s is not 4G LTE though… I am also continually disappointed by the lack of update support from OEMs on rolling out Android updates. We’ll see what is available in 1.5 years when I am eligible for a new one again. For now, I am really excited to get this bug fix version of Android 4. According to outsiders, google will consider 4.0.5 to be the official base version of ICS on which OEMs should build on, so I think it should be ready for prime time unlike what is available now. ---
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2012, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ipad-2-vs-ipad-3/221175/112 "2012-03-22T12:10:48Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > lol all the forks of android isn’t good for it ☹ > > The mobile app security field is huge right now and its mostly android shit Well the entertaining part is that “rooting” a android phone relies on a system security bug that allows you to gain root access by privilege escalation … Imagine if those holes existed on a server or web app? Haha. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2012, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ipad-2-vs-ipad-3/221175/113 "2012-03-22T12:58:10Z")
> [@boardjnky4](#): > > I would probably be an iPhone user by now. I was really disappointed that iPhone 4s is not 4G LTE though We’ll welcome you to the club then with iPhone 5 (assuming they remember the naming convention by then). With iPad 3 (I’m sorry “iPad”) supporting both Verizon and AT&T LTE you can pretty much guarantee the next iPhone will as well. Not sure how I feel about the 4.6" screen rumor they’re talking about. Every time I use my friend’s Galaxy Nexus it feels like I’m using a tablet. I think I’d be happier if they split the difference the iPhone and the Nexus in terms of size. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2012, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ipad-2-vs-ipad-3/221175/114 "2012-03-22T13:01:52Z")
I like the size on the Nexus, actually. Using my wife’s phone feels really small (Droid 4). Idunno, I hope that Android and the Nexus program continue in the right direction, but a lot can happen in 1.5 years, so I’m not counting on anything. Just enjoying the device I have. ---
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2012, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ipad-2-vs-ipad-3/221175/115 "2012-03-22T13:09:49Z")
And now to Android phones. This thread has gone full geek circle. ---
**Author:** ![Tunerfreak](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tunerfreak/32/7427_2.png) [@Tunerfreak](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tunerfreak)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2012, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ipad-2-vs-ipad-3/221175/116 "2012-03-22T19:46:30Z")
I actually looked at apple computers today because I need to learn Xcode, it sucks they are so expensive… ---
**Author:** ![llink78](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/llink78/32/8037_2.png) [@llink78](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/llink78)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2012, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ipad-2-vs-ipad-3/221175/117 "2012-03-22T20:13:36Z")
> [@Tunerfreak](#): > > I actually looked at apple computers today because I need to learn Xcode, it sucks they are so expensive… Should of bought the MacBook I had for sale ---
**Author:** ![Tunerfreak](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tunerfreak/32/7427_2.png) [@Tunerfreak](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tunerfreak)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2012, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ipad-2-vs-ipad-3/221175/118 "2012-03-22T21:38:52Z")
> [@llink78](#): > > Should of bought the MacBook I had for sale didnt know I was going to need to learn it until a few days ago ---
**Author:** ![Mankthetank19](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mankthetank19/32/5295_2.png) [@Mankthetank19](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mankthetank19)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2012, 11:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ipad-2-vs-ipad-3/221175/119 "2012-03-22T23:44:08Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > lol all the forks of android isn’t good for it ☹ > > The mobile app security field is huge right now and its mostly android shit x2 With large companies needing their employees to be tied to their mobile devices, companies are paying big bucks to safeguard company info. I still think RIM has the best mobile security with a BES due to the simplicity of the devices. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2012, 3:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ipad-2-vs-ipad-3/221175/120 "2012-03-23T03:58:27Z")
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