# Iran really testing the US navy **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [January 7, 2008, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iran-really-testing-the-us-navy/41384 "2008-01-07T08:15:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![zwarbyt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zwarbyt/32/7623_2.png) [@zwarbyt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/zwarbyt)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iran-really-testing-the-us-navy/41384/21 "2008-01-07T09:01:42Z")
> [@cougarspeed](#): > > If you are going to say im stupid then atleast tell me how please. So your thought is if we go to war with Iran we just bomb it? thats idiotic it again would be a ground war taking forever and thousands of troops we cannot support the war in iraq as it is, a country no where NEAR as heavlily armed as iran ---
**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iran-really-testing-the-us-navy/41384/22 "2008-01-07T09:05:14Z")
> [@FormulaLS1](#): > > Just like Iraq? Seems that we keep throwing troops at that area to keep to stable and didn’t it take a large number of troops on the inital invasion? > > I was under the impression that Irans army was more advanced then Iraqs I could be wrong… > > _ **I AM NOT ATTACKING YOU OR THE ARMY MR BLAKE PLEASE DON’T LOSE YOUR MIND AND YELL AT ME IN YOUR REPONSE** _ Ok. Here is where you arent understanding why we moved as many troops as we did though. You seem to think we brought over a large amount of troops to fight the war and to take over. They were not fighting any army they were simply on ground to secure and restructure. There was some resistance but most of what is fought is small militia groups not some Iraqi army. Irans military is far more advanced then Iraqs and by no means would it just be some walk in the park task for the US. But it is a far cry from something that we cant handle. What it comes down to is that our air defense and air support are too far superior for them to fight. This will enable us to disable most of their force without much of an issue. ---
**Author:** ![j\_espo1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/j_espo1/32/7291_2.png) [@j\_espo1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/j_espo1)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 9:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iran-really-testing-the-us-navy/41384/23 "2008-01-07T09:09:36Z")
> [@zwarbyt](#): > > So your thought is if we go to war with Iran we just bomb it? > > thats idiotic > > it again would be a ground war > > taking forever and thousands of troops > > we cannot support the war in iraq as it is, a country no where NEAR as heavlily armed as iran we would shit on Iran, but too many bleeding heart liberals would complain about the shamble we would leave their counrty in. p.s.- fuck a draft I’d sign up on my own ---
**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 9:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iran-really-testing-the-us-navy/41384/24 "2008-01-07T09:10:30Z")
> [@zwarbyt](#): > > So your thought is if we go to war with Iran we just bomb it? > > thats idiotic > > it again would be a ground war > > taking forever and thousands of troops > > we cannot support the war in iraq as it is, a country no where NEAR as heavlily armed as iran No i do think we would still end up with a mess of forces in Iran if we went in. But i am talking about the overthrow of their military. When we came in here we pounded the living shit out of them from the sky and they were mostly disabled before we entered on the ground. Now years later we sit here with a shit ton of troops trying to obtain whatever it is we are trying to obtain(i really dont even know at this point). What im saying is that we wouldnt have an issue overthrowing their military force. The amount of amrs Iran has wouldnt be as much of an issue as how many people they would be able to recruit to fight in the same ways we fight here. Dont get me wrong i want nothing to do with an invasion of iran but i dont think it would be too much for us. ---
**Author:** ![zwarbyt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zwarbyt/32/7623_2.png) [@zwarbyt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/zwarbyt)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 9:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iran-really-testing-the-us-navy/41384/25 "2008-01-07T09:10:55Z")
and you missed the part where they are crazy fucks and are in the perfect position to attack other countries in the gulf with bio weapons which everyone predicts they will do ---
**Author:** ![zwarbyt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zwarbyt/32/7623_2.png) [@zwarbyt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/zwarbyt)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 9:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iran-really-testing-the-us-navy/41384/26 "2008-01-07T09:12:52Z")
bottom line: a war with IRAN will have twice the casualties cost twice as much and probably take twice as long ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 9:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iran-really-testing-the-us-navy/41384/27 "2008-01-07T09:13:25Z")
i’d bet against the ground war as well… and i would also bet against this supposed threat as having actually happened … it’s all BS… Iran doesnt want to go to war, they have nothing to gain and lots to lose…so why would they provoke? they wouldnt… Iran will avoid being blown up at all costs because no one can beat the US. ---
**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 9:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iran-really-testing-the-us-navy/41384/28 "2008-01-07T09:14:12Z")
Before anyone else wants to tell me how stupid i am for thinking we would as j espo says “shit on Iran” My job in the military is Air and Missile Defense Intell. So i kinda happen to know most everything there is to know about anything we can put into the sky as well as anything anyone else can put into the sky. I have a pretty good grasp on if it would be an issue. ---
**Author:** ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 9:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iran-really-testing-the-us-navy/41384/29 "2008-01-07T09:15:24Z")
I see where cougarspeed is coming from. The military part of war with Iran would be much simpler than rebuilding Iran in the image of the US republic government. Zwarbyt and Sherm are thinking of the whole process where you are thinking of JUST overthrowing the Iranian military. I concur and agree, it would probably be pretty easy. In doing so A) The US would be even more hate and probably create more terrorists. B) oil prices would shoot through the roof. ---
**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iran-really-testing-the-us-navy/41384/30 "2008-01-07T09:16:27Z")
> [@zwarbyt](#): > > and you missed the part where they are crazy fucks and are in the perfect position to attack other countries in the gulf with bio weapons which everyone predicts they will do > [@zwarbyt](#): > > bottom line: a war with IRAN will have twice the casualties cost twice as much and probably take twice as long We can shoot down anything they put in the air and have patriot systems all over the middle east. They could shoot neighboring countries but not anything over any water. I agree with your second statement. I dont think anyone is going to tell you that war is ever going to be a walk in the park. ---
**Author:** ![hondaride22](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hondaride22/32/5077_2.png) [@hondaride22](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/hondaride22)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 9:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iran-really-testing-the-us-navy/41384/31 "2008-01-07T09:18:12Z")
p.s.- fuck a draft I’d sign up on my own[/quote] go ahead… this country needs people like u… so those of us who wouldn’t fight for shit we don’t care about can live happily ; ) ---
**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 9:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iran-really-testing-the-us-navy/41384/32 "2008-01-07T09:20:50Z")
> [@RuBiCaNT](#): > > I see where cougarspeed is coming from. The military part of war with Iran would be much simpler than rebuilding Iran in the image of the US republic government. Zwarbyt and Sherm are thinking of the whole process where you are thinking of JUST overthrowing the Iranian military. I concur and agree, it would probably be pretty easy. > > In doing so A) The US would be even more hate and probably create more terrorists. B) oil prices would shoot through the roof. This is what i am saying and i think Zwarbyt gets it but i think justing might actually think that we are fighting for the power over here and that is not the case at all. A war with Iran would suck balls really hard. But us taking over wouldnt be the issue. ---
**Author:** ![j\_espo1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/j_espo1/32/7291_2.png) [@j\_espo1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/j_espo1)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 9:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iran-really-testing-the-us-navy/41384/33 "2008-01-07T09:26:37Z")
> [@cougarspeed](#): > > Before anyone else wants to tell me how stupid i am for thinking we would as j espo says “shit on Iran” My job in the military is Air and Missile Defense Intell. So i kinda happen to know most everything there is to know about anything we can put into the sky as well as anything anyone else can put into the sky. I have a pretty good grasp on if it would be an issue. :tup: again for those that missed it… WE WOULD SHIT ON IRAN ---
**Author:** ![JoesTypeS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joestypes/32/7190_2.png) [@JoesTypeS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoesTypeS)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iran-really-testing-the-us-navy/41384/34 "2008-01-07T09:28:05Z")
Destroying Iranian infrastructure and then not re-building the country would be a HORRIBLE decision, especially since the youth in that country is wanting a more western like political landscape. In fact I hope we’ve learned a lesson from RECENT HISTORY that it’s not wise to destroy a country, because the rebuilding process takes FAR too long. To be quite honest a ground invasion of Iran is the only military option to topple the regime without creating the vast anti-occupation sentiment that we currently face in Iraq. If you don’t destroy the country, you don’t have to rebuild it. So since we don’t have the troops for a full on ground invasion, and we don’t have the money or political power for another decade long occupation, confrontation and infrastructure rebuilding our only reasonable option in dealing with Iran is diplomacy and covert operations. Additionally if we were to flatten the country like the wise j\_espo1 suggests, do you have any idea what the ramifications to our economy would be? The void in the oil market would drive the cost per barrel up to the point that our economy would fall into a serious recession if not a total depression. Do you really think China is going to cut down on consumption? Nope. Attacking Iran would be an economical death sentence for the country. ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iran-really-testing-the-us-navy/41384/35 "2008-01-07T09:28:26Z")
> [@j\_espo1](#): > > :tup: i’m fairly certain that cougarspeed is hinting that you’re a douchebag. lol @ the :tup: ---
**Author:** ![j\_espo1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/j_espo1/32/7291_2.png) [@j\_espo1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/j_espo1)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iran-really-testing-the-us-navy/41384/36 "2008-01-07T09:28:59Z")
> [@hondaride22](#): > > p.s.- fuck a draft I’d sign up on my own go ahead… this country needs people like u… so those of us who wouldn’t fight for shit we don’t care about can live happily ; )[/quote] i dont know how you can look at yourself in the mirror. thats pathetic and cowardly. the only reason you live in a “happy place” is because so many people have fought and died for this country. honestly you make me want to puke. ---
**Author:** ![j\_espo1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/j_espo1/32/7291_2.png) [@j\_espo1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/j_espo1)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 9:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iran-really-testing-the-us-navy/41384/37 "2008-01-07T09:29:43Z")
> [@newman](#): > > i’m fairly certain that cougarspeed is hinting that you’re a douchebag. lol @ the :tup: your wrong. he saying that he knows we would take them out easily. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iran-really-testing-the-us-navy/41384/38 "2008-01-07T09:30:33Z")
> [@cougarspeed](#): > > My job in the military is Air and Missile Defense Intell. So i kinda happen to know most everything there is to know about anything we can put into the sky as well as anything anyone else can put into the sky. I have a pretty good grasp on if it would be an issue. Are you even allowed to say that on the internet? Isn’t talking about what you’re doing over there kind of a security leak? Or have I watched too many movies? So what does the UN think about this? Does it even still exist? Or did it say “fuck it” and dissolve when we invaded Iraq without them? ---
**Author:** ![JoesTypeS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joestypes/32/7190_2.png) [@JoesTypeS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoesTypeS)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iran-really-testing-the-us-navy/41384/39 "2008-01-07T09:34:28Z")
> [@j\_espo1](#): > > your wrong. > > he saying that he knows we would take them out easily. Have you learned NOTHING from Iraq? Bombing the fuck out of a country does not mean you’ve “won”. ---
**Author:** ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iran-really-testing-the-us-navy/41384/40 "2008-01-07T09:34:28Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > Are you even allowed to say that on the internet? Isn’t talking about what you’re doing over there kind of a security leak? Or have I watched too many movies? > > So what does the UN think about this? Does it even still exist? Or did it say “fuck it” and dissolve when we invaded Iraq without them? The UN is like your friend’s parents. They can tell you not to do something but in the end, what can they do? [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iran-really-testing-the-us-navy/41384.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iran-really-testing-the-us-navy/41384.md?page=3)