# Iraq War/"Conflict" 10 year anniversary.

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**Created:** [March 19, 2013, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iraq-war-conflict-10-year-anniversary/266552 "2013-03-19T08:16:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iraq-war-conflict-10-year-anniversary/266552/1 "2013-03-19T08:16:56Z")

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![http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site200/2013/0319/20130319_041816_IRAQ%20DECADE%20ANNIVERSARY%20SADDAM%20STATUE.jpg](http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site200/2013/0319/20130319_041816_IRAQ%20DECADE%20ANNIVERSARY%20SADDAM%20STATUE.jpg)

It’s been 10 years since we got involved in a conflict overseas over the debated matter of weapons of mass destruction and US feeling a threat from a dictator. (Very much similar to North Korea, but we _know_ they have WMD’s…)

The question is, whether this war/“conflict” was worth it at all.

By the numbers:

4,488 US servicemen dead.  
32,000 wounded  
100,000-170,000 civilians dead  
600,000 civilians executed under Saddam  
0 number of weapons of mass destruction found  
1 trillion dollars it the approximate cost of the war to date, the number will keep going up long after the conflict is over accounted for interest, veterans and other operational costs  
10 years later there is still plenty of civil unrest and anniversary was “celebrated” by more explosions

> **[10 years on: Iraq rocked by coordinated wave of explosions as civilian uprising...](https://www.sott.net/article/259928-10-years-on-Iraq-rocked-by-coordinated-wave-of-explosions-as-civilian-uprising-against-US-client-regime-continues)**
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> Baghdad was convulsed by a deadly wave of explosions as terrorists detonated up to nine explosions in the course of a few hours over the morning on the 10th anniversary of the US-led invasion. Early reports suggested that at least 34 people were...

Discuss. :popcorn

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**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iraq-war-conflict-10-year-anniversary/266552/2 "2013-03-19T20:04:35Z")

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Way too many fucking casualties

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**Author:** ![pitman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4da419/32.png) [@pitman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/pitman)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2013, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iraq-war-conflict-10-year-anniversary/266552/3 "2013-03-20T10:42:31Z")

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> [@Dish Network or Stay with Time Warner....](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dish-network-or-stay-with-time-warner/52042/17):
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> Way too many fucking casualties

yup for a reason thats not justified by the people. just killing to kill i guess

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**Author:** ![MGs4me](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@MGs4me](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MGs4me)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2013, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iraq-war-conflict-10-year-anniversary/266552/4 "2013-03-20T11:18:33Z")

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I don’t see how anyone with even half a brain could not have known that we were opening up a huge can of worms when we invaded Iraq. Ten years later and what exactly did we accomplish that was good?

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**Author:** ![Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hang_your_cross/32/6381_2.png) [@Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hang_Your_Cross)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2013, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iraq-war-conflict-10-year-anniversary/266552/5 "2013-03-20T16:01:55Z")

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> [@Blogpost: FCK Doctors & Univ Sports Medicine](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blogpost-fck-doctors-univ-sports-medicine/52049/4):
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> I don’t see how anyone with even half a brain could not have known that we were opening up a huge can of worms when we invaded Iraq. Ten years later and what exactly did we accomplish that was good?

Halliburton and Blackwater/Academi made bank. We are fighting these wars to give corporations money via tax payers, that’s all.

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**Author:** ![AVB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avb/32/6751_2.png) [@AVB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AVB)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2013, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iraq-war-conflict-10-year-anniversary/266552/6 "2013-03-20T16:20:25Z")

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Everyone by now knows that Iraq was invaded for oil control. It is no secret. THe WMD threats was more or less a reason to invade. Did they have WMD? Maybe. I love my country but I def disagree with how Iraq was handled by our elected politicians. To force feed a country democracy that some never wanted anyway. Democracy does not work overnight. We as a country still don’t have it right. Was Iraq a success? I still feel like it needs time to grow as a democratic country to see if it was worth it. I always like to this a particular scenario as an example… Let’s say North Korea for instance invaded to US(Yea it will most likely never happen). And they tried to instate a Dictorship. I’m positive most Americans would do what Iraq and Afgan citizens did(and are still doing) ie. use ied’s, snipers, etc to kill the enemy. I feel America needs to take a pre-WW1 approach and mind our own buisness but will never happen. As for the 4k+ soldiers, marines, sailors, and airmen that have died I do not feel sorry. I don’t mean to offend anyone that has lost a loved one to the conflict but they signed up for it. They knew every bit what they were getting themselves into when joining.

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**Author:** ![pitman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4da419/32.png) [@pitman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/pitman)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2013, 6:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iraq-war-conflict-10-year-anniversary/266552/7 "2013-03-20T18:00:48Z")

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> [@mind fuck](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mind-fuck/52057/9):
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> Everyone by now knows that Iraq was invaded for oil control. It is no secret.

not enough people know so start telling more people why we wage wars. is it money?

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2013, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iraq-war-conflict-10-year-anniversary/266552/8 "2013-03-20T18:31:49Z")

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Completely forgot about this.

> _ **Freedom fries** _ is a [political euphemism](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_euphemism) for [French fries](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_fries) in the United States. The term came to prominence in 2003 when the [Republican](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_%28United_States%29)-controlled [Congress](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Congress) officially renamed the menu item in Congressional cafeterias in response to [France](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France)’s [opposition](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_and_the_Iraq_War) to the proposed [invasion of Iraq](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_invasion_of_Iraq). The renaming quickly gained notoriety as part of a greater wave of political and popular [anti-French sentiment in the United States](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-French_sentiment_in_the_United_States). Although originally supported by Americans with several restaurants changing their menus as well, following [declining support for the Iraq War](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_opinion_on_the_Iraq_War), the term became irrelevant. Following [Bob Ney](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Ney)’s resignation from the Committee which oversaw the renaming, it was quietly reverted.

> **[Freedom fries](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_fries)**
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> Freedom fries was a politically motivated renaming of french fries in the United States. The term was created in February 2003 in a North Carolina restaurant, and was widely publicized a month later when the then Republican Chairman of the Committee on House Administration, Bob Ney, renamed the menu item in three Congressional cafeterias. The political renaming occurred in context of France's opposition to the proposed invasion of Iraq. Although some restaurants around the nation adopted the re...

Fucking Freedom Fries! :rofl

Can you imagine the outrage this would cause if this happened with the current Congress?

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**Author:** ![sbardy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@sbardy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sbardy)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2013, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iraq-war-conflict-10-year-anniversary/266552/9 "2013-03-20T18:36:05Z")

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Vlad loves Wikipedia…

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2013, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iraq-war-conflict-10-year-anniversary/266552/10 "2013-03-20T18:50:36Z")

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> [@mind fuck](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mind-fuck/52057/9):
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> Everyone by now knows that Iraq was invaded for oil control. It is no secret. THe WMD threats was more or less a reason to invade. Did they have WMD? Maybe. I love my country but I def disagree with how Iraq was handled by our elected politicians. To force feed a country democracy that some never wanted anyway. Democracy does not work overnight. We as a country still don’t have it right. Was Iraq a success? I still feel like it needs time to grow as a democratic country to see if it was worth it. I always like to this a particular scenario as an example… Let’s say North Korea for instance invaded to US(Yea it will most likely never happen). And they tried to instate a Dictorship. I’m positive most Americans would do what Iraq and Afgan citizens did(and are still doing) ie. use ied’s, snipers, etc to kill the enemy. I feel America needs to take a pre-WW1 approach and mind our own buisness but will never happen. As for the 4k+ soldiers, marines, sailors, and airmen that have died I do not feel sorry. I don’t mean to offend anyone that has lost a loved one to the conflict but they signed up for it. They knew every bit what they were getting themselves into when joining.

Some disagree.

> **[Debunking The War For Oil Theory - John Hawkins' Right Wing News](https://rightwingnews.com/column-2/debunking-the-war-for-oil-theory-2/)**
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> As I read the: latest & greatest piece of diarrhea: to be penned by one of the ‘war for oil” crowd, I was struck by how shallow and ill-thought out this theory

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**Author:** ![Jammer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jammer/32/6349_2.png) [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2013, 10:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iraq-war-conflict-10-year-anniversary/266552/11 "2013-03-20T22:30:45Z")

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And we showed the world for a time, that dont fuck with us or you will pay. The real waste is that street cred is now all gone.

Freedom has a cost, and it comes in blood. Always has, always will.

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2013, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iraq-war-conflict-10-year-anniversary/266552/12 "2013-03-20T22:51:39Z")

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> [@On another topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/52032/26):
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> And we showed the world for a time, that dont fuck with us or you will pay. The real waste is that street cred is now all gone.
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> Freedom has a cost, and it comes in blood. Always has, always will.

Don’t mistake the Iraq War with “The war on Terror” that’s a whole another venture, hence Afghanistan involvement and Bin Laden.

As far as I recall (and I’m sure you will correct me if I’m wrong) but Iraq didn’t “fuck with us”.

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**Author:** ![SDP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@SDP](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SDP)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2013, 1:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iraq-war-conflict-10-year-anniversary/266552/13 "2013-03-21T01:37:55Z")

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> [@mind fuck](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mind-fuck/52057/6):
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> Halliburton and Blackwater/Academi made bank. We are fighting these wars to give corporations money via tax payers, that’s all.

Yes this is true, the military industrial complex. A major reason why we go poke bee’s nests. Its a shame.

And anyone who opposes the wars along with our global empire stature has a good chance of being called unpatriotic. Far from the truth.

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**Author:** ![AVB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avb/32/6751_2.png) [@AVB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AVB)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2013, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iraq-war-conflict-10-year-anniversary/266552/14 "2013-03-23T17:16:03Z")

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> [@Labatt Blue Cold Ones](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/labatt-blue-cold-ones/52060/7):
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> Some disagree.
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> [Debunking The War For Oil Theory | John Hawkins' Right Wing News](http://www.rightwingnews.com/column-2/debunking-the-war-for-oil-theory-2/)

Like with anything in this world there is always 2 sides to something. I’m sure there was many reasons to invade Iraq that the public will never know the true motives behind it. What more or less sealed the deal for me on oil being the main reason was when I was on deployment. My carrier and strike group was one of 2 that was in the Arabian Sea doing missions into Afghanistan. Iran was doing flyovers of the Carl Vinson(my carrier) at the time for 2 weeks straight in there P-3’s. Iran threatened to close off the Strait of Hormuz if we didnt stop coming so close to Iran soil. If anyone is familiar with the geographic location it is the only way for oil along with many other types of export to make it out of the Gulf. Iran technically controls it. Anyways we got pulled off our Afgan missions and posted up outside the Strait so Iran wouldnt close it for oil to make it’s way out. Seemed fucked up to me that they would put thousands of our lives at risk so some oil could make it’s way out. This was just an example of my personal experience
