# Iron Block Vs. Aluminum block

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iron-block-vs-aluminum-block/82454>\
**Category:** SON240sx Automotive\
**Created:** [December 12, 2004, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iron-block-vs-aluminum-block/82454 "2004-12-12T18:03:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DETS14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee59a6/32.png) [@DETS14](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DETS14)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2004, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iron-block-vs-aluminum-block/82454/1 "2004-12-12T18:03:48Z")

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Which do you guys think is best. List pros and cons of both with examples.  
They both have their positives and negatives.

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**Author:** ![\_RSTuning.ca](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/_rstuning.ca/32/6098_2.png) [@\_RSTuning.ca](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/_RSTuning.ca)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2004, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iron-block-vs-aluminum-block/82454/2 "2004-12-12T18:29:30Z")

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iron is best becuase its a billion times stronger the minus is that it weighs more the aluminum isnt as strong but it lighter.

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**Author:** ![s13Junkyard](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/s13junkyard/32/5502_2.png) [@s13Junkyard](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/s13Junkyard)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2004, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iron-block-vs-aluminum-block/82454/3 "2004-12-12T18:31:13Z")

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Iron all the way

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**Author:** ![japaneseimports.ca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9bcb4/32.png) [@japaneseimports.ca](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/japaneseimports.ca)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2004, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iron-block-vs-aluminum-block/82454/4 "2004-12-12T19:13:27Z")

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Hey isn’t the CA18DET an Iron block?

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**Author:** ![RD\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a88e4f/32.png) [@RD\_Man](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RD_Man)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2004, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iron-block-vs-aluminum-block/82454/5 "2004-12-12T19:15:05Z")

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> [@japaneseimports.ca](#):
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> Hey isn’t the CA18DET an Iron block?

ya thats one of the reasons it was scrapped, it cost to much to make it

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2004, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iron-block-vs-aluminum-block/82454/6 "2004-12-12T19:18:16Z")

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> [@japaneseimports.ca](#):
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> Hey isn’t the CA18DET an Iron block?

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

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**Author:** ![SHIFT\_KA24DET](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b9bd4f/32.png) [@SHIFT\_KA24DET](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SHIFT_KA24DET)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2004, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iron-block-vs-aluminum-block/82454/7 "2004-12-12T19:31:24Z")

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ALUMINIUM = BIG BOOST

IRON = BIGGER BOOST

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2004, 7:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iron-block-vs-aluminum-block/82454/8 "2004-12-12T19:42:54Z")

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need better internals for bigger boost :S

- metal headgasket…

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**Author:** ![\_RSTuning.ca](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/_rstuning.ca/32/6098_2.png) [@\_RSTuning.ca](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/_RSTuning.ca)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2004, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iron-block-vs-aluminum-block/82454/9 "2004-12-13T17:37:00Z")

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you shouldnt need a metal gasket if detonation is not present.

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**Author:** ![nocwage](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nocwage/32/5489_2.png) [@nocwage](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nocwage)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2004, 5:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iron-block-vs-aluminum-block/82454/10 "2004-12-14T05:57:17Z")

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When you’re pushing boost you should plan for some accidental detonation…

I’ve heard the CA actually weighs less than the SR because it has a timing belt instead of a chain and it does’t require rocker arms since it’s got 16 lobes for 16 valves. The SR also is a lot thicker to make up for the weaker aluminum.  
NOTE: I haven’t weighed it myself so take that with a grain of salt.

If it doesn’t weigh less it probably weighs the same.

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**Author:** ![boMex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@boMex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boMex)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2004, 6:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iron-block-vs-aluminum-block/82454/11 "2004-12-14T06:54:49Z")

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This discussion is useless. A well built aluminum block will be strong and make good hp and a well built iron block will be strong and make good hp.

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**Author:** ![GT1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5e925/32.png) [@GT1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GT1)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2004, 7:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iron-block-vs-aluminum-block/82454/12 "2004-12-14T07:11:18Z")

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exactly… it depends waht your intentions are for the motor.

too many variables to decide a winner in my opinion.

and personally i would always go with a metal head gasket and upgraded head studs when upping the boost to much higher level

however like i said… too many things to consider.

you would need a flow chart to even think of discussing this with any proper arguement.

nehoo

continue to debate if you want

GT

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**Author:** ![SHIFT\_KA24DET](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b9bd4f/32.png) [@SHIFT\_KA24DET](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SHIFT_KA24DET)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2004, 8:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iron-block-vs-aluminum-block/82454/13 "2004-12-15T08:27:29Z")

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> [@GT\_GREG](#):
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> you would need a flow chart to even think of discussing this with any proper arguement.  
> GT

We’re talking about Blocks not Heads 😉

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**Author:** ![GT1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5e925/32.png) [@GT1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GT1)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2004, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iron-block-vs-aluminum-block/82454/14 "2004-12-15T12:09:37Z")

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and talking about a flow chart not a chart that shows teh flow.

different things yo

GT

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**Author:** ![AnDrEw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AnDrEw](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AnDrEw)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2004, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iron-block-vs-aluminum-block/82454/15 "2004-12-15T13:57:11Z")

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> [@boMex](#):
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> This discussion is useless. A well built aluminum block will be strong and make good hp and a well built iron block will be strong and make good hp.

:stupid:

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**Author:** ![spilner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@spilner](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/spilner)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2004, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iron-block-vs-aluminum-block/82454/16 "2004-12-15T17:09:35Z")

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theres a reason the SR is so popular…

dont second guess the pro’s.

ARUMINURMN BROCKK!!! DORIIIFFFTTTTOOOOUUUUUU!!!

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**Author:** ![Hector](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/43a26b/32.png) [@Hector](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hector)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2004, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iron-block-vs-aluminum-block/82454/17 "2004-12-18T23:09:22Z")

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iron block is stronger, but i would choose aluminium for one reason, we have aluminium heads!!!

aluminium and iron have different expansion rates, using dissimilar metals is never a good idea, with iron blocks and aluminium heads u tend to get head warpage more than u would iif both were aluminium,

also aluminium dissapates heat quicker than iron, exactly what u want in a high performance motor, less chance of heat soak into the engine bay after engine shut off as well, cuz as we all know heat soak creates a whole whack of problems!

Engines with dissimilar metals for head and block tend to have more headgasket problems as well!!

just my two cents

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**Author:** ![SHIFT\_KA24DET](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b9bd4f/32.png) [@SHIFT\_KA24DET](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SHIFT_KA24DET)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2004, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iron-block-vs-aluminum-block/82454/18 "2004-12-19T16:08:35Z")

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> [@Hector](#):
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> iron block is stronger, but i would choose aluminium for one reason, we have aluminium heads!!!
> 
> aluminium and iron have different expansion rates, using dissimilar metals is never a good idea, with iron blocks and aluminium heads u tend to get head warpage more than u would iif both were aluminium,
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> also aluminium dissapates heat quicker than iron, exactly what u want in a high performance motor, less chance of heat soak into the engine bay after engine shut off as well, cuz as we all know heat soak creates a whole whack of problems!
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> Engines with dissimilar metals for head and block tend to have more headgasket problems as well!!
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> just my two cents

And you got this information from where?

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**Author:** ![Ed1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/958977/32.png) [@Ed1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ed1)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2004, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iron-block-vs-aluminum-block/82454/19 "2004-12-19T19:07:27Z")

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it does kinda make sense, w/ the different expanding rate for each metal,  
and they do expand at different temperature, (according to my physics text book 😃 )

idealy no one would want to have something that expands and different temperatures and have it break b/c of that

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**Author:** ![SHIFT\_KA24DET](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b9bd4f/32.png) [@SHIFT\_KA24DET](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SHIFT_KA24DET)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2004, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iron-block-vs-aluminum-block/82454/20 "2004-12-19T19:13:31Z")

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> [@Ed](#):
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> it does kinda make sense, w/ the different expanding rate for each metal,  
> and they do expand at different temperature, (according to my physics text book 😃 )
> 
> idealy no one would want to have something that expands and different temperatures and have it break b/c of that

Do you know exactly how much the difference is?

Not much, IIRC .05mm^3/1000deg…

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