# Is it worth it? LS1-\>TDI trade

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-it-worth-it-ls1-tdi-trade/65114>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [March 25, 2009, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-it-worth-it-ls1-tdi-trade/65114 "2009-03-25T19:10:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![BadnewsMike](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/badnewsmike/32/7419_2.png) [@BadnewsMike](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BadnewsMike)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2009, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-it-worth-it-ls1-tdi-trade/65114/21 "2009-03-25T19:58:56Z")

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sorry i missed a point.

on the EGR Delete is it the hole system did he bypass the coolant lines and pull the coolant channel or just cap off a section and leave the coolant section there?

so upgraded turbo/injectors/egr delete and no current TUNE?(or else it would tune out the EGR CEL) no wonder hes on the second motor.

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**Author:** ![sobo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sobo/32/5267_2.png) [@sobo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sobo)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2009, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-it-worth-it-ls1-tdi-trade/65114/22 "2009-03-25T20:15:49Z")

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> [@badnewsmini](#):
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> 55mpg is BS.
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> real world driving Ive never been in or seen above 50mpg. and I have the 5th gear swap (stupid tall 5th) and never come close to 55.
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> modded TDI’s dont have the same longevity as a stock.  
> Broken mount scares baby Jesus. make sure its not broken at the block. didnt I say watch out for that in your other thread. did you check for leaking IP pump? huge expense ask bigwoode
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> pros the single mass flywheel is worlds above the stock dual… as for trading the F-body I would REALLY think about it. its a nice car and a 99.5 was the FIRST year for the MK4 and a flagged with all the MK4 problems… like brake light switch failing all the time, windows falling into the doors (particularly the power windows), golove box handle breaking, armrest breaking, cruise failing, Ect…
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> Is the motor an ALH or a AHU block 99.5 was the change over year.
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> Did you go over the buying section on TDI CLUB?
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> anyways best of luck on whatever you chose.
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> Edit: :tup: on the 5speed, glad you didnt go with the auto.

IDK about the gas mileage, that point is blah. The mount itself is going, when the engine was out of the car he said it was kinda mooshy (The mount) so it’s not the block.

The IP does not leak. There is also a helper fuel pump hooked up. The guy is a member of TDI club and knows his shit really well.

I forgot the add, the car comes with a 2000 2.0 parts car(He replaced all the windows, the arm rest, the glove box, and vents with good working parts already) The block is the A4 type, the newer style turbo diesel.

The car was chipped when the turbo was put in, and the EGR was removed recently because the owner got tired of having to clean it out. The delete kit is installed however the EGR valve itself is still installed and hooked up just not plugged into the Intake manifold.

Like i said, the car is still on its original motor. He wanted to clean the head and while he was at it just replaced everything else. The motor ran great he just wanted it to be fresh.

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**Author:** ![Iroc\_Guy76](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/iroc_guy76/32/5150_2.png) [@Iroc\_Guy76](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Iroc_Guy76)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2009, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-it-worth-it-ls1-tdi-trade/65114/23 "2009-03-25T20:17:30Z")

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IMO, not a good trade.

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**Author:** ![sobo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sobo/32/5267_2.png) [@sobo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sobo)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2009, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-it-worth-it-ls1-tdi-trade/65114/24 "2009-03-25T20:20:17Z")

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> [@Iroc Guy76](#):
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> IMO, not a good trade.

Why.

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**Author:** ![Iroc\_Guy76](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/iroc_guy76/32/5150_2.png) [@Iroc\_Guy76](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Iroc_Guy76)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2009, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-it-worth-it-ls1-tdi-trade/65114/25 "2009-03-25T20:48:46Z")

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> [@sobo](#):
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> Why.

Personal Prefrence? v8 Power? Less Miles?, Sharper looking car?

You seem to be really more for this trade than against it. If you dont need the fuel economy Id be against it.

To each his own.

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**Author:** ![double\_j](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/double_j/32/7380_2.png) [@double\_j](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/double_j)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2009, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-it-worth-it-ls1-tdi-trade/65114/26 "2009-03-25T21:03:39Z")

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This is such a weird trade situation. As great as all of that torque is, the trans is not up to it. Ask Lowlyoilburner. There are probably parts of his trans on the side of the 219 still.

Chip and nozzles. That is all you really should do to a TDI with a stock 5 speed. Otherwise, you can swap in a 6 speed 02M and change the gears so it isn’t revving to the moon at highway speeds. That trans can actually handle power.

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**Author:** ![maybe\_memories](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maybe_memories/32/5053_2.png) [@maybe\_memories](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/maybe_memories)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2009, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-it-worth-it-ls1-tdi-trade/65114/27 "2009-03-25T21:10:08Z")

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ls1\>tdi all day.

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**Author:** ![maybe\_memories](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maybe_memories/32/5053_2.png) [@maybe\_memories](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/maybe_memories)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2009, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-it-worth-it-ls1-tdi-trade/65114/28 "2009-03-25T21:10:37Z")

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ls1\> tdi any day.

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**Author:** ![garbs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3d9bf3/32.png) [@garbs](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/garbs)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2009, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-it-worth-it-ls1-tdi-trade/65114/29 "2009-03-25T21:11:49Z")

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If you really hate the fbod so much, maybe trade up to a higher mileage GTO? Awesome LSX power, modest looks, nicer interior, and a better ride - I’d take one any day over a TDI.

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**Author:** ![Boomin99GT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boomin99gt/32/7306_2.png) [@Boomin99GT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boomin99GT)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2009, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-it-worth-it-ls1-tdi-trade/65114/30 "2009-03-25T21:26:36Z")

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I think it’s a bad trade unless you want a modded car that will cost you 5x as much in maintenance. That car is asking for problems.

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**Author:** ![bigwoode](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bigwoode/32/5175_2.png) [@bigwoode](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bigwoode)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2009, 9:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-it-worth-it-ls1-tdi-trade/65114/31 "2009-03-25T21:27:41Z")

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Its a good car, not so good of a trade… Maintenance is a bitch, but other than that I love it. Where is the car located out of curiousity?

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**Author:** ![jt76](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jt76/32/5100_2.png) [@jt76](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jt76)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 12:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-it-worth-it-ls1-tdi-trade/65114/32 "2009-03-26T00:41:11Z")

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ugh epic fail. Dont do it

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**Author:** ![Beck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/beck/32/28683_2.png) [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 5:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-it-worth-it-ls1-tdi-trade/65114/33 "2009-03-26T05:06:43Z")

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> [@baseball24](#):
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> just wondering a little off topic but if i got approved for a loan to buy this car right now and i know there will be interest and all that but if i pay the loan in a month once my car sells will i be charged the interest and all that

Sorry Henry. No bank is going to approve you for a loan on a 98 ANYTHING with 95k miles. Personal loan or straight ca$h.

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**Author:** ![BadnewsMike](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/badnewsmike/32/7419_2.png) [@BadnewsMike](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BadnewsMike)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-it-worth-it-ls1-tdi-trade/65114/34 "2009-03-26T10:35:02Z")

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I say it sounds like a pritty good deal, I would get the bypass kit for the EGR and get a new tune ASAP but go for it.

as for the people on the board, you are talking to a bunch of people who are sports car crazed. they will not tell you to step down and i hope that wasnt what you where looking for. if your not going to track, want good MPG, decent reliability, easy to work on, go for it.

they really are great cars.

is the parts car red by any chance 😛 i could use some parts…

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-it-worth-it-ls1-tdi-trade/65114/35 "2009-03-26T12:52:36Z")

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In to say its a good trade for the other guy. Mods don’t add value to a car, and should not add to the purchasing price, considering you will probably have to clean up his mess later on.

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**Author:** ![ubengineering](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ubengineering/32/5171_2.png) [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 12:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-it-worth-it-ls1-tdi-trade/65114/36 "2009-03-26T12:59:18Z")

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keep your car, its way nicer

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**Author:** ![dubbin91](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecccb3/32.png) [@dubbin91](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dubbin91)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-it-worth-it-ls1-tdi-trade/65114/37 "2009-03-26T13:04:14Z")

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Drive the TDI and see if you want that torque and mpgs compared to power.

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**Author:** ![zwarbyt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zwarbyt/32/7623_2.png) [@zwarbyt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/zwarbyt)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 1:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-it-worth-it-ls1-tdi-trade/65114/38 "2009-03-26T13:18:51Z")

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the heater core on a vw will take 5-7 hours of work fyi

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**Author:** ![bigwoode](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bigwoode/32/5175_2.png) [@bigwoode](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bigwoode)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-it-worth-it-ls1-tdi-trade/65114/39 "2009-03-26T14:36:16Z")

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I cant really be one to talk, I own both a TDI and an LS1 Z28, soo, keep and purchase the TDI :lol:

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**Author:** ![Shockwave179](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shockwave179/32/7496_2.png) [@Shockwave179](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shockwave179)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 3:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-it-worth-it-ls1-tdi-trade/65114/40 "2009-03-26T15:19:00Z")

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No offense but that sounds like a terrible trade.

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