# Is it worth it to die an old grumpy man someday, or do I find out?

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**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [April 14, 2008, 6:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-it-worth-it-to-die-an-old-grumpy-man-someday-or-do-i-find-out/46771 "2008-04-14T06:30:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-it-worth-it-to-die-an-old-grumpy-man-someday-or-do-i-find-out/46771/61 "2008-04-14T10:50:14Z")

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Why aren’t you outside doing hairy burnouts in this thing right now as we speak?

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**Author:** ![ILCisDEAD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a87d85/32.png) [@ILCisDEAD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILCisDEAD)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 10:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-it-worth-it-to-die-an-old-grumpy-man-someday-or-do-i-find-out/46771/62 "2008-04-14T10:55:16Z")

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> [@90NA300ZX](#):
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> i vote track it for SEVERAL reasons:
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> 1 - Um, why build a car if you don’t plan on tracking it?
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> 2 - For every 50 people that SEEM like serious potential buyers, maybe 1 of them will come through and buy the car. That said, have you had 49 people that already told you they’ll take it? Because if not, i’m willing to bet there’s a chance this guy doesn’t come through either…so many people either don’t come up with the money, or do and take it elsewhere, or just never call you back at all, that i’d be skeptical.
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> 3 - It’s still your car, do what you want with it.
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> 4 - i guarantee that almost every time you take the car out, you get on it…and wind out at least a couple gears…we all do, hence us being members of NYSpeed…that said, what’s the difference of doing it at a track? If anything, a track is more controlled, responsible, legal, and you can actually be told how fast you’re going rather than just guessing by how long it takes you to get from one intersection to the next.
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> You’re doing to the car what you would at a track every time you get on it, so i don’t see why this is even a question. All the concerns you have about tracking a car are the same concerns you should have in driving it aggressively on the street…actually, there should be more concern driving as such on the street…if anything i’d say you should ONLY track the car so as to avoid hurting yourself or anybody else around you…

Thank you.

I know now I will NEVER buy a car or anything from you.

**Subject** : FS: Pocket Pussy: Brandnew  
**Body** : I tried it out once, to see how it felt, and its still mine so I’ll do what I want with it.

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-it-worth-it-to-die-an-old-grumpy-man-someday-or-do-i-find-out/46771/63 "2008-04-14T10:56:48Z")

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Eh, on second thought I guess I don’t know the situation. You don’t seem like a dick. I’m sure you wouldn’t track the car if you were screwing someone over to do it.

I still vote not to do it since this is the type of thing that Murphy dreams of, but hell what’s life without risk right? What’s the worst that could happen? Something breaks, you fix it, then sell it. Right?

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**Author:** ![ILCisDEAD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a87d85/32.png) [@ILCisDEAD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILCisDEAD)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-it-worth-it-to-die-an-old-grumpy-man-someday-or-do-i-find-out/46771/64 "2008-04-14T10:58:07Z")

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> [@Fry](#):
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> Eh, on second thought I guess I don’t know the situation. You don’t seem like a dick. I’m sure you wouldn’t track the car if you were screwing someone over to do it.
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> I still vote not to do it since this is the type of thing that Murphy dreams of, but hell what’s life without risk right? What’s the worst that could happen? Something breaks, you fix it, then sell it. Right?

turbo GSR… I hope he finds away to snap the timing belt or burn up some serious shit…

its not going to be a 100 dollar fix if he does fuck something up

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**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-it-worth-it-to-die-an-old-grumpy-man-someday-or-do-i-find-out/46771/65 "2008-04-14T11:00:11Z")

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> [@Fry](#):
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> Eh, on second thought I guess I don’t know the situation. You don’t seem like a dick. I’m sure you wouldn’t track the car if you were screwing someone over to do it.
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> I still vote not to do it since this is the type of thing that Murphy dreams of, but hell what’s life without risk right? What’s the worst that could happen? Something breaks, you fix it, then sell it. Right?

you want to know what the car runs… after having the setup for TWO YEARS, you decide to track it the week that you’re selling it…

now you’re going to the track on pump gas & street tires… which is generally half assed by comparison to DRs / slicks + high boost + 100+ oct… so why even bother?

i dunno, w/e… I’m uot.

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**Author:** ![rugsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rugsr/32/7474_2.png) [@rugsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rugsr)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-it-worth-it-to-die-an-old-grumpy-man-someday-or-do-i-find-out/46771/66 "2008-04-14T11:03:47Z")

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update: just talked to him, should have $$$$$ by tomorrow  
😃 and ☹

im gonna be sad to see it go

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-it-worth-it-to-die-an-old-grumpy-man-someday-or-do-i-find-out/46771/67 "2008-04-14T11:04:05Z")

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> [@Nikuk](#):
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> you want to know what the car runs… after having the setup for TWO YEARS, you decide to track it the week that you’re selling it…
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> now you’re going to the track on pump gas & street tires… which is generally half assed by comparison to DRs / slicks + high boost + 100+ oct… so why even bother?
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> i dunno, w/e… I’m uot.

Sure it doesn’t make sense and if I were the guy going to the bank for cash right now I’d be all sorts of pissed if I found out the seller was driving the thing 10/10ths at a track after accepting my offer, I’m just trying to give rugsr the benefit of the doubt.

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**Author:** ![ILCisDEAD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a87d85/32.png) [@ILCisDEAD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILCisDEAD)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-it-worth-it-to-die-an-old-grumpy-man-someday-or-do-i-find-out/46771/68 "2008-04-14T11:12:18Z")

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> [@rugsr](#):
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> update: just talked to him, should have $$$$$ by tomorrow  
> 😃 and ☹
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> im gonna be sad to see it go

Go snap a timing belt quick … I doubt he’ll have the money for you. Then you won’t be sad about it leaving

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**Author:** ![rugsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rugsr/32/7474_2.png) [@rugsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rugsr)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-it-worth-it-to-die-an-old-grumpy-man-someday-or-do-i-find-out/46771/69 "2008-04-14T11:14:45Z")

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haha-timing belt, water pump, and tensioner was all done during turbo build

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**Author:** ![93gspeccivic](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/93gspeccivic/32/5137_2.png) [@93gspeccivic](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93gspeccivic)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-it-worth-it-to-die-an-old-grumpy-man-someday-or-do-i-find-out/46771/70 "2008-04-14T13:35:07Z")

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> [@d3x](#):
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> drive it like you stole it

i aggree, drive it like it’s 99.9% sold. chances are you wont crash it in the 1/4

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**Author:** ![ly555is](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3bc359/32.png) [@ly555is](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ly555is)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-it-worth-it-to-die-an-old-grumpy-man-someday-or-do-i-find-out/46771/71 "2008-04-14T14:21:56Z")

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:picard:

bad advice by the truckload

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**Author:** ![Slopoke](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slopoke/32/7248_2.png) [@Slopoke](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Slopoke)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 2:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-it-worth-it-to-die-an-old-grumpy-man-someday-or-do-i-find-out/46771/72 "2008-04-14T14:31:20Z")

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This is one instance where i would say doing a fun run(roll) on the highway \> the track! Do not blow something stupid like an axle or clutch, just run someone you think is in the same class that has been to the track. If its a well tuned gsr-T should be what mid-high 12’s? run cory in the transmarowbird or justins s4. Sorry not to ride thier dicks but i dont know who else has there car up and runnin besides sario, and doubt that would even be close… Just my $.02

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**Author:** ![cky89](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cky89/32/4945_2.png) [@cky89](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cky89)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-it-worth-it-to-die-an-old-grumpy-man-someday-or-do-i-find-out/46771/73 "2008-04-14T14:32:11Z")

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It’s not worth the risk.

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