# Is suicide cowardly and selfish? (split)
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-suicide-cowardly-and-selfish-split/257747
**Category:** Shift518 Off Topic
**Created:** [April 7, 2011, 6:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-suicide-cowardly-and-selfish-split/257747 "2011-04-07T06:53:28Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Singh1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Singh1)
#### Post date: [April 7, 2011, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-suicide-cowardly-and-selfish-split/257747/21 "2011-04-07T08:00:00Z")
WHO THE HELL ARE YOU GUYS TALKING ABOUT
WHATS HIS NAME? LINK?
jesus this is so hard to figure out, colin who, who the fuck is colin ?
:rofl
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### Author:  [@Omega](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Omega)
#### Post date: [April 7, 2011, 8:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-suicide-cowardly-and-selfish-split/257747/22 "2011-04-07T08:01:31Z")
The kid with the BMX bike in that gif with the moving ramp that misses the landing and bites it.
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### Author:  [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)
#### Post date: [April 7, 2011, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-suicide-cowardly-and-selfish-split/257747/23 "2011-04-07T08:02:14Z")
> [@16-0 or 15-1](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/16-0-or-15-1/40938/54):
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> I’m gonna go with the fact that suicide is a pussy way out.
As opposed to just living till you die being the hard way out?
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### Author:  [@Singh1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Singh1)
#### Post date: [April 7, 2011, 8:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-suicide-cowardly-and-selfish-split/257747/24 "2011-04-07T08:03:52Z")
OK LET ME help ya guys and paste the info and the gif in this thread, so people like me who didnt see the other thread yet will understand what happened and who did it and shit like that
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### Author:  [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)
#### Post date: [April 7, 2011, 8:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-suicide-cowardly-and-selfish-split/257747/25 "2011-04-07T08:03:59Z")
> [@Buffalo Bills 2007 Season Discussion](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-bills-2007-season-discussion/35063/1018):
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> WHO THE HELL ARE YOU GUYS TALKING ABOUT
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> WHATS HIS NAME? LINK?
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> jesus this is so hard to figure out, colin who, who the fuck is colin ?
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> :rofl
> [@Who buys used cell phones?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/who-buys-used-cell-phones/40559/10):
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> 
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> [@X-box live gamertag thread\*\*edited with list\*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/x-box-live-gamertag-thread-edited-with-list/22265/1202):
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> What? O\_o
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> [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin\_Winkelmann](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_Winkelmann)
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> > **Colin Winklemann** (February 26, 1976 – August 11, 2005) was a professional freestyle BMX rider and is the current (2000) [World record](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_record) holder for ‘Longest BMX Jump’. He rode for DK Bicycles[[1]](http://dkbicycles.com/index.html), taking 2nd place in the 2002 [Toronto](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto) LaRevolution Street contest.
> > He started riding as a young child in [Okinawa](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okinawa), [Japan](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan) where his father was stationed at a military base. It was in Japan where he first saw magazines and videos about BMX and freestyle and started trying to do some tricks. He was a fearless rider, attempting stunts such as jumping 116 feet over 13 [Ford Explorer](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Explorer) sport utility vehicles, for which he earned an entry into the [Guinness Book of Records](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guinness_Book_of_Records).
> > In July 2004, Colin attempted a stunt that involved a ramp mounted on the hood of a van that was driving toward him as he rode toward it. He failed in the attempt, suffering severe injuries, including breaking both ankles, fracturing a [vertebra](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertebra), and breaking several bones in his [wrist](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrist). He also dislocated his ankle and right foot.
> > Immediately following the crash, Colin was rushed by [ambulance](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambulance) to the [University of Maryland Medical Center](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Maryland_Medical_Center) in [Baltimore](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltimore) where he began a long rehabilitation. Following extensive surgery on his shattered ankles Colin was put in a stable situation, although it was unclear whether he would be able to ride again. 6 months on from the crash, he was able to walk unassisted, although notably with a limp. However despite this progress, Colin found his injuries and his inability to ride too distressing. On 9 August 2005, Colin committed suicide by [carbon monoxide poisoning](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_monoxide_poisoning) from the exhaust pipes of his motorbike in his garage at his home in Greenville, NC.[[1]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_Winkelmann#cite_note-0)
The beginning of the discussion
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### Author:  [@RTrac1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RTrac1)
#### Post date: [April 7, 2011, 8:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-suicide-cowardly-and-selfish-split/257747/26 "2011-04-07T08:04:14Z")
> [@Omega"](#):
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> The kid with the BMX bike in that gif with the moving ramp that misses the landing and bites it.
right, the idiot we have been laughing at forever, but now is a superhero for trying it
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### Author:  [@Omega](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Omega)
#### Post date: [April 7, 2011, 8:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-suicide-cowardly-and-selfish-split/257747/27 "2011-04-07T08:04:29Z")
> [@WTB: leaf springs, any kind.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-leaf-springs-any-kind/40987/13):
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> As opposed to just living till you die being the hard way out?
Ok, I am not a religious person. But NOTHING can come up that you can’t work past. All you need is some faith. I don’t care what your faith is in, but you can’t honestly believe that things can get so bad that there is no other answer than taking your own life?
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### Author:  [@Singh1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Singh1)
#### Post date: [April 7, 2011, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-suicide-cowardly-and-selfish-split/257747/28 "2011-04-07T08:05:13Z")
i posted the info in the OP so normal people can get the info
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### Author:  [@Shady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shady)
#### Post date: [April 7, 2011, 8:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-suicide-cowardly-and-selfish-split/257747/29 "2011-04-07T08:06:40Z")
> [@FS: 1992 GMC Jimmy 4door 4wd w/5.7L V8 swap](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-1992-gmc-jimmy-4door-4wd-w-5-7l-v8-swap/36362/27):
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> And you yourself said that sometimes suicide is “understandable”/justifiable how do you even differentiate between that?
Look up some of Kevorkian cases, thats the kind of “suicide” i agree with
People who are basicly drooling and cant even wipe their own ass, terminal cancer patients who are physically rotting from the inside out and have NO CHANCE of leading any sort of happy physically pain free life.
Someone who mentally can’t deal with the fact he wont ever be as good as he used to be? Sure the 6 months of the recovery was probably painful and hard, but I KNOW PEOPLE THAT HAVE BROKEN THEIR LEGS, fucked up their backs endured years of it… Were basicly stuck in a chair for quite some time and yet went on with their lives…
He gave up, he dident try… He dident push, he just said… Welp, this here PT is tough and it may not even matter when I’m all done with it… I think ill just kill myself.
He was fucking walking… That was lucky in itself… He could have ended up like Stephen fucking hawking. No, he was to much of a coward to try and adapt and look at life as more than just a fucking BMX bike.
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### Author:  [@imported\_ST4TUS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_ST4TUS)
#### Post date: [April 7, 2011, 8:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-suicide-cowardly-and-selfish-split/257747/30 "2011-04-07T08:08:24Z")
When you have a brain that can devise plans such as hitting the van-ramp,
there are underlying factors in the process of thought in said individual’s brain.
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### Author:  [@Singh1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Singh1)
#### Post date: [April 7, 2011, 8:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-suicide-cowardly-and-selfish-split/257747/31 "2011-04-07T08:09:04Z")
u know what is more pussy than people who commit suicide ?
is people who want to commit suicide but cant because they are too pussy too
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### Author:  [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)
#### Post date: [April 7, 2011, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-suicide-cowardly-and-selfish-split/257747/32 "2011-04-07T08:10:17Z")
How about everyone mind their own damn business?
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### Author:  [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)
#### Post date: [April 7, 2011, 8:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-suicide-cowardly-and-selfish-split/257747/33 "2011-04-07T08:11:09Z")
> [@Wendy Correctional](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wendy-correctional/40876/33):
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> Albert Camus famously posited, “The only true philosophical question is whether life is worth living.”
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> Tell me Shady, what makes your life worth living? What would it be if those things were gone? All of them?
In case you missed it.
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### Author:  [@Omega](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Omega)
#### Post date: [April 7, 2011, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-suicide-cowardly-and-selfish-split/257747/34 "2011-04-07T08:12:32Z")
> [@is this the new subaru WRC car exhaust manifold?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-the-new-subaru-wrc-car-exhaust-manifold/40990/3):
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> How about everyone mind their own damn business?
Sometimes things need to be talked about.
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### Author:  [@Singh1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Singh1)
#### Post date: [April 7, 2011, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-suicide-cowardly-and-selfish-split/257747/35 "2011-04-07T08:12:43Z")
> [@is this the new subaru WRC car exhaust manifold?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-the-new-subaru-wrc-car-exhaust-manifold/40990/3):
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> How about everyone mind their own damn business?
on shift? CHYAaaaa right :rofl
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### Author:  [@Shady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shady)
#### Post date: [April 7, 2011, 8:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-suicide-cowardly-and-selfish-split/257747/36 "2011-04-07T08:13:25Z")
Well vlad…
Unless my whole family dies in a car crash, and all my realitives in one shot…
Along with the internet dieing
And the world pretty much being a black hole…
Pretty sure I’ll be able to push through whatever comes my way.
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### Author:  [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)
#### Post date: [April 7, 2011, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-suicide-cowardly-and-selfish-split/257747/37 "2011-04-07T08:15:16Z")
> [@is this the new subaru WRC car exhaust manifold?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-the-new-subaru-wrc-car-exhaust-manifold/40990/4):
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> Sometimes things need to be talked about.
Like the depression and suicide of someone that nobody here knows?
Just typed a response and deleted it. See? I’m getting smarter with age.
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### Author:  [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)
#### Post date: [April 7, 2011, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-suicide-cowardly-and-selfish-split/257747/38 "2011-04-07T08:18:15Z")
> [@WTB: 96-00 civic EX/Si coupe for parts](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-96-00-civic-ex-si-coupe-for-parts/39218/8):
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> Well vlad…
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> Unless my whole family dies in a car crash, and all my realitives in one shot…
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> Along with the internet dieing
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> And the world pretty much being a black hole…
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> Pretty sure I’ll be able to push through whatever comes my way.
oh and you _know_ this right?
You know what, living is the pussy way out of life. By far easier to let something else kill you than overriding your most basic instinct of survival.
It’s the people that have nothing to live for, live miserable lives, drown themselves in drugs and alcohol that just keep lurking along the paths even when they aren’t going nowhere.
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### Author:  [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)
#### Post date: [April 7, 2011, 8:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-suicide-cowardly-and-selfish-split/257747/39 "2011-04-07T08:26:40Z")
Vlad is 100% incorrect, and that is a fact.
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### Author:  [@Shady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shady)
#### Post date: [April 7, 2011, 8:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-suicide-cowardly-and-selfish-split/257747/40 "2011-04-07T08:30:18Z")
No Vlad, I don’t know this but I belive in myself enough to think that NO MATTER HOW HARD shit might get, I will always be able to hold onto something and find a way to get my life back to where Im comfortably living it.
You seem to think that being this bad ass athlete who starred death in the face makes him not a coward?
That is simply not the case. Just because he would do anything and was never scared does not mean a person is not a coward at all. Theres so much more to it than that.
He was a coward.
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