# Is The Smoked Salmon in A Philly Roll Cooked or Raw?

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**Created:** [November 3, 2005, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-the-smoked-salmon-in-a-philly-roll-cooked-or-raw/4153 "2005-11-03T12:25:57Z")
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### Author: ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2005, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-the-smoked-salmon-in-a-philly-roll-cooked-or-raw/4153/1 "2005-11-03T12:25:57Z")

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Is The Smoked Salmon in A Philly Roll Cooked or Raw?

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### Author: ![dozr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/41988e/32.png) [@dozr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dozr)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2005, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-the-smoked-salmon-in-a-philly-roll-cooked-or-raw/4153/2 "2005-11-03T12:30:41Z")

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It is cured, but raw.

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### Author: ![turbosilly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/91b2a8/32.png) [@turbosilly](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbosilly)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2005, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-the-smoked-salmon-in-a-philly-roll-cooked-or-raw/4153/3 "2005-11-03T12:32:22Z")

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mmm sounds good, now i want some. im not sure how you would explain it, but i think dozer has it.

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### Author: ![dozr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/41988e/32.png) [@dozr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dozr)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2005, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-the-smoked-salmon-in-a-philly-roll-cooked-or-raw/4153/4 "2005-11-03T12:34:20Z")

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There are different types of smoked salmon, but the one he is talking about is still raw…

When it is cooked, it will be flaky and white-ish in color.

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### Author: ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2005, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-the-smoked-salmon-in-a-philly-roll-cooked-or-raw/4153/5 "2005-11-03T12:35:07Z")

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> [@dozer](#):
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> There are different types of smoked salmon, but the one he is talking about is still raw…
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> When it is cooked, it will be flaky and white-ish in color.

Thank for validating me, Tom… Rob is stupid as we both know… 🙂

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### Author: ![RobHimself](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e480ec/32.png) [@RobHimself](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RobHimself)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2005, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-the-smoked-salmon-in-a-philly-roll-cooked-or-raw/4153/6 "2005-11-03T12:35:48Z")

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And you are gay as everyone knows

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### Author: ![dozr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/41988e/32.png) [@dozr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dozr)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2005, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-the-smoked-salmon-in-a-philly-roll-cooked-or-raw/4153/7 "2005-11-03T12:36:22Z")

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Haha… I may \<3 sushi more than anything in this world.

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### Author: ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2005, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-the-smoked-salmon-in-a-philly-roll-cooked-or-raw/4153/8 "2005-11-03T12:37:25Z")

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well, if it is a smoked salmon roll, it is cooked. If it is a salmon roll be it spicy or not, it is raw. Smoking doesn’t generally mean that you have to cook the food, it can be cold smoked, but cold smoking fish just doesn’t perform as well.

Edit: I read the title… That salmon isn’t smoked at all, it is cured. If it tastes smoked they probably used that shitty liquid smoke

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### Author: ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2005, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-the-smoked-salmon-in-a-philly-roll-cooked-or-raw/4153/9 "2005-11-03T12:37:43Z")

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> [@dozer](#):
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> There are different types of smoked salmon, but the one he is talking about is still raw…
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> When it is cooked, it will be flaky and white-ish in color.

what he said

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### Author: ![Daddie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/daddie/32/7621_2.png) [@Daddie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Daddie)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2005, 12:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-the-smoked-salmon-in-a-philly-roll-cooked-or-raw/4153/10 "2005-11-03T12:45:58Z")

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It is still raw, in this situation.

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### Author: ![RobHimself](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e480ec/32.png) [@RobHimself](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RobHimself)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2005, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-the-smoked-salmon-in-a-philly-roll-cooked-or-raw/4153/11 "2005-11-03T12:47:30Z")

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I tried to break this down for matt but as usual he doesnt let anyone speak over him. But heres my explaination. Cooking doesnt always have to involve heat. Scandanavians “cook” by using different marinades and cures but use a refridgerator do to the “cooking”. Im gonna go back to my job now.

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### Author: ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2005, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-the-smoked-salmon-in-a-philly-roll-cooked-or-raw/4153/12 "2005-11-03T12:48:10Z")

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LMAO

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### Author: ![JettaX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/838e76/32.png) [@JettaX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JettaX)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2005, 1:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-the-smoked-salmon-in-a-philly-roll-cooked-or-raw/4153/13 "2005-11-03T13:18:41Z")

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So, what is lox then? Cooked or raw?

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### Author: ![dozr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/41988e/32.png) [@dozr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dozr)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2005, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-the-smoked-salmon-in-a-philly-roll-cooked-or-raw/4153/14 "2005-11-03T13:49:24Z")

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Smoked salmon comes in two distinct varieties: Hot smoked, or kippered, and cold smoked, or Nova lox. The main difference is the brining process and the temperature during the smoking process. Hot smoked salmon is fully cooked to 145 degrees where as cold smoked salmon is smoked at 80 degrees and is actually cured but still raw and so should be frozen for parasite control.

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### Author: ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2005, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-the-smoked-salmon-in-a-philly-roll-cooked-or-raw/4153/15 "2005-11-03T14:00:58Z")

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> [@dozer](#):
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> Smoked salmon comes in two distinct varieties: Hot smoked, or kippered, and cold smoked, or Nova lox. The main difference is the brining process and the temperature during the smoking process. Hot smoked salmon is fully cooked to 145 degrees where as cold smoked salmon is smoked at 80 degrees and is actually cured but still raw and so should be frozen for parasite control.

:wstupid:

he beat me to it.

the cold smoked is still “cooked” like a ham there is a chemical reaction that takes place depeding on how its done.

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### Author: ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2005, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-the-smoked-salmon-in-a-philly-roll-cooked-or-raw/4153/16 "2005-11-03T14:40:16Z")

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> [@RobHimself](#):
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> I tried to break this down for matt but as usual he doesnt let anyone speak over him. But heres my explaination. Cooking doesnt always have to involve heat. Scandanavians “cook” by using different marinades and cures but use a refridgerator do to the “cooking”. Im gonna go back to my job now.

Sorry dood, the Salmon in the Philly Roll is still RAW, regardless of how it tastes…

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### Author: ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2005, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-the-smoked-salmon-in-a-philly-roll-cooked-or-raw/4153/17 "2005-11-03T14:48:47Z")

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Uh, Raw = Unprocessed = Uncooked = Not Smoked

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### Author: ![Juan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a698b9/32.png) [@Juan](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Juan)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2005, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-the-smoked-salmon-in-a-philly-roll-cooked-or-raw/4153/18 "2005-11-03T15:34:34Z")

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Smoked Salmon is not raw - it has been cured…plain and simple

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### Author: ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2005, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-the-smoked-salmon-in-a-philly-roll-cooked-or-raw/4153/19 "2005-11-03T15:36:49Z")

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> [@98teg](#):
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> Smoked Salmon is not raw - it has been cured…plain and simple

i think everyone but Rubicant agrees… :lol:

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### Author: ![Juan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a698b9/32.png) [@Juan](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Juan)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2005, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-the-smoked-salmon-in-a-philly-roll-cooked-or-raw/4153/20 "2005-11-03T15:42:52Z")

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Yeah WTF!

is the same smoked salmon we use to make Bagel & Lox for breakfast

it is cooked…like the same process you use to make ham

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