# is there a legit fucking reason I cant use cp?

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**Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\
**Created:** [April 2, 2013, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-there-a-legit-fucking-reason-i-cant-use-cp/266665 "2013-04-02T18:58:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![blkwgn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7feea3/32.png) [@blkwgn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/blkwgn)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 7:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-there-a-legit-fucking-reason-i-cant-use-cp/266665/421 "2013-04-22T07:48:38Z")

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nope.

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**Author:** ![BDSKJChris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/59ef9b/32.png) [@BDSKJChris](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BDSKJChris)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-there-a-legit-fucking-reason-i-cant-use-cp/266665/422 "2013-04-22T08:05:10Z")

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this forum needs a massive overhaul, turn it into a general automotive forum and if people want have a private section for people do joke around and say what they want but keep it in that section only.

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**Author:** ![ds50r](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ds50r/32/3491_2.png) [@ds50r](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ds50r)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 8:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-there-a-legit-fucking-reason-i-cant-use-cp/266665/423 "2013-04-22T08:13:01Z")

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i agree with the overhaul, new mods who actually participate and want to see a place where they spend alot of their time while surfing the internet to thrive, idk about anyone else but on my work pc, my ipad or any other computer that i use one tab is always open to [shift518.com](http://shift518.com)

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**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-there-a-legit-fucking-reason-i-cant-use-cp/266665/424 "2013-04-22T08:20:06Z")

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> [@RELATIONSHIPS: Are you faithful?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/relationships-are-you-faithful/52440/6):
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> this is honestly making me really fucking sick to my stomach… **i see racist comments made on this site all the fucking time** some pointed at vlad some at other people… i can totally see where vlad is coming from, **all the personal attacks over the YEARS** , (yea some hes brought on himself by being argumentative about everything) but for the most part, i think its completely bull shit… i have alot of friends that own businesses in the car world and other business that i would love to tell them to join and advertise on here because i think members would benefit from knowing about a good place they might have not before, but the simple fact that i feel embarrassed to even mention this site over of **a few bad ignorant eggs who shit this site up** is gut wrenching. im sure this is one of the biggest reasons vlad lashes out as well. maybe his way of dealing with it might be wrong but _all of you that are defending these assholes need to see the big picture_, he sees this as a business as something he created, maybe in your eyes its small and miniscule but to him it means something and your just shitting all over it. maybe if some of you **didnt bash every fucking person who joins** (like jenzpony look at her tread it starts out with everyone wanting to see her tits, gtfo assholes perfect reason as to why i would ban people) i told a coworker to join on here, hes actually really good with bmws and subarus and if i could find the thread the 2nd or 3 reply to one of his posts was a **fucking attack on his character** and you didnt even know the guy!!! there’s only a handful of people who actually know what they are talking about on this site(about cars technically ) and thats a big reason why all of you see this as a joke because **you dont contribute and when you do its only to bash people** … look at the bike part of this forum barely any bullshit in there… a few knowledgeable people in there posting relevant and informative information and questions, , id like to see a thread anywhere else that dosent end up being trashed because of some internet clown…
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> end rant i have alot more to say but im at work
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> and bdskjchris i agree with you on if he wants to run and own this site he needs to stay out of the bullshit but how can you stay out of it when the mods he apoints dont do anything…? _ **do you see anyone else really shut anyone up or post in a reply or edit anything anyone says?!?!** _ come on someone has to do something

Parts in bold. Are goddamn simple to deal with. Filters for words, short term temp bans AUTOGENERATED from using them. SIMPLE rules, left to moderators to enforce WITHOUT THE NEED for second guessing their own actions from confusing grey area “rules”.

THATS FUCKING IT. Look at any NATIONALLY RUN SUCCESSFULL FOURM. that how they do it. Bullshit is haulted. Button pushers are called out and eliminated. This place is full of smart people and smart ass people. Give ANYONE HERE AN INCH and they can and will take a mile. The grey area for using the word **\*\*\*\*\*\*** , but allowing **nigggahh** becasue its not filtered is a PERFECT example.

Parts underlined. Thats where self respect and respect for others self-police’s the place and keep it saine. I personally have NO FUCKING PROBLEM calling out my best friends here and telling them they are fucking up. On Shift or in real life. I EXPECT that they would do the same for me, when I fuck up too. THAT RIGHT THERE, is why I double think what I post and take in consideration what I look like and how others would take it. Thats why I have no problem calling my friend Vlad out for this nonsense here, and why I am “defending” paul.

This all centers around guideance and respect. on ALL fronts.

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**Author:** ![ds50r](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ds50r/32/3491_2.png) [@ds50r](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ds50r)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 8:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-there-a-legit-fucking-reason-i-cant-use-cp/266665/425 "2013-04-22T08:25:14Z")

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i agree… on everything you said mike… ( i didnt know about the whole word filter thing tho, i seen it used but dont know how to implement it. just like above i edited blkwagons post and look at the response i got… the children need to be put in time so they learn their lesson. just like in real life kids today are being taught that if mommy and daddy raise thier hand to them all they have to do is call 911 and they wont be hit but in hindsight all that is doing is raising assholes

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**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 8:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-there-a-legit-fucking-reason-i-cant-use-cp/266665/426 "2013-04-22T08:27:04Z")

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> [@RELATIONSHIPS: Are you faithful?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/relationships-are-you-faithful/52440/11):
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> i agree with the overhaul, new mods who actually participate and want to see a place where they spend alot of their time while surfing the internet to thrive, idk about anyone else but on my work pc, my ipad or any other computer that i use one tab is always open to [shift518.com](http://shift518.com)

I am here every fucking day. I run a damn business based on cars and it thrives off RESPECT AND OUR IMAGE… I am a half mod, with no abilities to help clean up the place. Why I dont know. If I can start a business from zero and get this far, one would think KK has NO PROBLEM telling someone to shut the fuck up and cut the bullshit here.

Give me simple rules. Make my name Blue. I will steam roll anyone who crosses the line and disrespects me, this site I represent or anyone on this site.

This is made so much harder than it needs to be… thats why its failing.

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**Author:** ![ds50r](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ds50r/32/3491_2.png) [@ds50r](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ds50r)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 8:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-there-a-legit-fucking-reason-i-cant-use-cp/266665/427 "2013-04-22T08:29:25Z")

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i agree and i think you should have full mod powers, this site needs a revamping with proper mods with people who dont side with this guy or that gut because they are their friend

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**Author:** ![KillerBlackbird](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/killerblackbird/32/6525_2.png) [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 8:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-there-a-legit-fucking-reason-i-cant-use-cp/266665/428 "2013-04-22T08:32:36Z")

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> [@Homosexual Undertones - NYSPEED Edition](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/homosexual-undertones-nyspeed-edition/15447/349):
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> i agree and i think you should have full mod powers, this site needs a revamping with proper mods with people who dont side with this guy or that gut because they are their friend

Then this entire forum would be in shambles. Go to the original post in this thread and read from the beginning and keep in mind what you just said.

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**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 8:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-there-a-legit-fucking-reason-i-cant-use-cp/266665/429 "2013-04-22T08:36:20Z")

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exactly. It MUST have unbiased opinions. As much as I look like I am nuts and dont give a fuck. Thats the KrazyKid side.

there is also a Mike Wood side of that log on name. The same one that took a business with ZERO to start and made it where it is now, not the best but striving to kick more ass every day. I/we did that by NOT taking shit, focus on what needs to be done and just do it. We walked the line of friends/hook ups/etc and thats 100% the hardest and worst aspect of running a business to deal with… as this place is running a site. Set shit in stone and stand by it. then there is nobody that can deny what was what when its right there infront of their face.

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 8:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-there-a-legit-fucking-reason-i-cant-use-cp/266665/430 "2013-04-22T08:36:45Z")

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KBB don’t forget you’re one of the rats that came flooding back to shift when our forum failed :rofl

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**Author:** ![ds50r](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ds50r/32/3491_2.png) [@ds50r](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ds50r)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-there-a-legit-fucking-reason-i-cant-use-cp/266665/431 "2013-04-22T08:37:08Z")

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why because it would deter all the asshole from posting? if thats the case then this should be called [realhousewivesof518.com](http://realhousewivesof518.com) and lets just shut this shit down…

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**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 8:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-there-a-legit-fucking-reason-i-cant-use-cp/266665/432 "2013-04-22T08:39:14Z")

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> [@RELATIONSHIPS: Are you faithful?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/relationships-are-you-faithful/52440/18):
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> Then this entire forum would be in shambles. Go to the original post in this thread and read from the beginning and keep in mind what you just said.

what do you mean?

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**Author:** ![KillerBlackbird](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/killerblackbird/32/6525_2.png) [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 8:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-there-a-legit-fucking-reason-i-cant-use-cp/266665/433 "2013-04-22T08:39:37Z")

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> [@DD questions](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dd-questions/52424/21):
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> exactly. It MUST have unbiased opinions. As much as I look like I am nuts and dont give a fuck. Thats the KrazyKid side.
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> there is also a Mike Wood side of that log on name. The same one that took a business with ZERO to start and made it where it is now, not the best but striving to kick more ass every day. I/we did that by NOT taking shit, focus on what needs to be done and just do it. We walked the line of friends/hook ups/etc and thats 100% the hardest and worst aspect of running a business to deal with… as this place is running a site. Set shit in stone and stand by it. then there is nobody that can deny what was what when its right there infront of their face.

And NO personal attacks should exist on either side. Member, mod, or admin. Set an example. If you want flowers, ponies, stickers, and rainbows - that needs to be clear and not deviate from the top.

> [@Quality of life crackdown](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/quality-of-life-crackdown/52438/27):
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> KBB don’t forget you’re one of the rats that came flooding back to shift when our forum failed :rofl

That was unmoderated glory in its finest and it failed lol

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**Author:** ![ds50r](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ds50r/32/3491_2.png) [@ds50r](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ds50r)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-there-a-legit-fucking-reason-i-cant-use-cp/266665/434 "2013-04-22T08:40:21Z")

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> [@DD questions](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dd-questions/52424/21):
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> exactly. It MUST have unbiased opinions. As much as I look like I am nuts and dont give a fuck. Thats the KrazyKid side.
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> there is also a Mike Wood side of that log on name. The same one that took a business with ZERO to start and made it where it is now, not the best but striving to kick more ass every day. I/we did that by NOT taking shit, focus on what needs to be done and just do it. We walked the line of friends/hook ups/etc and thats 100% the hardest and worst aspect of running a business to deal with… as this place is running a site. Set shit in stone and stand by it. then there is nobody that can deny what was what when its right there infront of their face.

exactly!!

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**Author:** ![KillerBlackbird](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/killerblackbird/32/6525_2.png) [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-there-a-legit-fucking-reason-i-cant-use-cp/266665/435 "2013-04-22T08:40:50Z")

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> [@RELATIONSHIPS: Are you faithful?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/relationships-are-you-faithful/52440/21):
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> what do you mean?

Taking sides and singling members out. This entire thread exists because someone was singled out.

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 8:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-there-a-legit-fucking-reason-i-cant-use-cp/266665/436 "2013-04-22T08:47:39Z")

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> [@Homosexual Undertones - NYSPEED Edition](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/homosexual-undertones-nyspeed-edition/15447/350):
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> That was unmoderated glory in its finest and it failed lol

Yes but correlation=!causation

It failed because it didn’t have any traffic, not because it was unmoderated.

If this forum had a similar section it would assuredly be the most visited.

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**Author:** ![ds50r](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ds50r/32/3491_2.png) [@ds50r](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ds50r)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 8:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-there-a-legit-fucking-reason-i-cant-use-cp/266665/437 "2013-04-22T08:48:02Z")

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100% he was singled out, vlads bad, not denying that one bit, but like you said rules need to be applied from the top and trickle down paul has done and said things in the past that are not acceptable and was not shown the error in waht he said any maybe if he was this would not have gotten to this point… but lets also look at jenzponys intro thread… do anyone of you think thats acceptable? ok she wants attention great but the way that thread evolved is not the best way to keep members or get new ones!

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**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 8:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-there-a-legit-fucking-reason-i-cant-use-cp/266665/438 "2013-04-22T08:49:42Z")

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> [@Homosexual Undertones - NYSPEED Edition](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/homosexual-undertones-nyspeed-edition/15447/350):
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> And NO personal attacks should exist on either side. Member, mod, or admin. Set an example. If you want flowers, ponies, stickers, and rainbows - that needs to be clear and not deviate from the top.
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> That was unmoderated glory in its finest and it failed lol

EXACTLY.

see my post in the mod section about that.

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**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 8:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-there-a-legit-fucking-reason-i-cant-use-cp/266665/439 "2013-04-22T08:52:48Z")

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> [@RELATIONSHIPS: Are you faithful?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/relationships-are-you-faithful/52440/24):
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> 100% he was singled out, vlads bad, not denying that one bit, but like you said rules need to be applied from the top and trickle down paul has done and said things in the past that are not acceptable and was not shown the error in waht he said any maybe if he was this would not have gotten to this point… **but lets also look at jenzponys intro thread… do anyone of you think thats acceptable? ok she wants attention great but the way that thread evolved is not the best way to keep members or get new ones!**

I agree too. and the part in bold.

Members here need to STOP acting like children hiding behind a keyboard, using the excuse “its the internet, ysosrs,” etc. Then calling it hazing, or whatever. Its not just tip toeing over the line, its jumping clear over it just becasue you can.

once again, its all about respect… give and take

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**Author:** ![KillerBlackbird](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/killerblackbird/32/6525_2.png) [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 9:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-there-a-legit-fucking-reason-i-cant-use-cp/266665/440 "2013-04-22T09:02:12Z")

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> [@The "Oil Prices" thread.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-oil-prices-thread/44739/954):
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> Yes but correlation=!causation
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> It failed because it didn’t have any traffic, not because it was unmoderated.
> 
> If this forum had a similar section it would assuredly be the most visited.

No traffic and no clowns. Difference of personalities and actions make up a large part of activity. Look at PJB, how many pages deep are we in this thread now? Ducks in my pool thread is still gold 2 years later. Paul is Paul, he’ll say and do shit differently from you and I. And that’s just it, this world would be a boring place if we all acted and thought the same, drive the same color cars, and wore the same color clothes. I’ve literally never laughed so hard in my life at some shit you post, Benny. Is it appropriate? Not always, but it makes me laugh.

I’ve thought in the past about if a special section here would work, call it “The Bar” or whatever and have no filters, anything goes. But anywhere else would have to be like church, no swearing or being disrespectful. Would it work? Hard to say. If it did, would it kill the rest of the forum?

> [@RELATIONSHIPS: Are you faithful?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/relationships-are-you-faithful/52440/24):
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> 100% he was singled out, vlads bad, not denying that one bit, but like you said rules need to be applied from the top and trickle down paul has done and said things in the past that are not acceptable and was not shown the error in waht he said any maybe if he was this would not have gotten to this point… but lets also look at jenzponys intro thread… do anyone of you think thats acceptable? ok she wants attention great but the way that thread evolved is not the best way to keep members or get new ones!

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