# Is this an automotive first?

**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-an-automotive-first/23636
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive
**Created:** [January 26, 2007, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-an-automotive-first/23636 "2007-01-26T12:30:04Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2007, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-an-automotive-first/23636/1 "2007-01-26T12:30:04Z")

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Has there ever been another company that has made this many iterations of the same vehicle as GM has with the trailblazer?

Saab 9-7x  
GMC Envoy  
Saturn Outlook  
Pontiac Torrent  
Buick Rainier  
Chevy Trailblazer  
Oldsmobile Bravada

I swear they are all the same. I’ve driven every one minus the Outlook and it blows my mind. Are they all the same platform?

Do the Hummer H3 and Caddy SRX fit in there too?

![http://onyxz32.sagemind.com/GM.jpg](http://onyxz32.sagemind.com/GM.jpg)

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### Author: ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2007, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-an-automotive-first/23636/2 "2007-01-26T12:33:36Z")

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oh god

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### Author: ![MaximaSE98](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maximase98/32/7600_2.png) [@MaximaSE98](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MaximaSE98)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2007, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-an-automotive-first/23636/3 "2007-01-26T12:36:09Z")

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i am going to agree with u on the H3 and SRX…and GM wonders y they sell a tond of cars…they have 6 of everything…its used to be alot worse…atleast some of them are more diverse than they used to be from the car in same classes (ie Sunfire, Cavalier, SC2 or Cutlass, Malibu, Alero,)

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### Author: ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2007, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-an-automotive-first/23636/4 "2007-01-26T12:36:45Z")

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i thought teh torrent was based on the vue/equinox thing?

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### Author: ![Violator](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/violator/32/7278_2.png) [@Violator](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Violator)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2007, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-an-automotive-first/23636/5 "2007-01-26T12:38:16Z")

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Add:

![http://a138.g.akamai.net/n/138/3538/20030722064707/www.cars.com/stock/350x233/229468.jpg](http://a138.g.akamai.net/n/138/3538/20030722064707/www.cars.com/stock/350x233/229468.jpg)

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### Author: ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2007, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-an-automotive-first/23636/6 "2007-01-26T12:42:03Z")

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> [@drvnkd](#):
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> i thought teh torrent was based on the vue/equinox thing?

ur right

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### Author: ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2007, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-an-automotive-first/23636/7 "2007-01-26T12:44:36Z")

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> [@drvnkd](#):
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> i thought teh torrent was based on the vue/equinox thing?

Is the Saturn based off of that as well?

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### Author: ![King](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/king/32/7329_2.png) [@King](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/King)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2007, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-an-automotive-first/23636/8 "2007-01-26T12:50:26Z")

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> [@Onyx Z32](#):
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> Is the Saturn based off of that as well?

yea the VUE

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### Author: ![RedGoober4Life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redgoober4life/32/7610_2.png) [@RedGoober4Life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedGoober4Life)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2007, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-an-automotive-first/23636/9 "2007-01-26T12:53:47Z")

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No.

Acadia/Outlook/Enclave = Lambda  
CrapBlazer/Suckvoy/Yuckvada/9-7x/Ascender…oh how did I forget the Rainier…YUM = GMT360 = deathtraps  
Equixnox/Torrent/VUE/New XL-7 = Theta

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### Author: ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2007, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-an-automotive-first/23636/10 "2007-01-26T12:56:56Z")

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> [@RedGoober4Life](#):
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> No.
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> Acadia/Outlook/Enclave = Lambda  
> CrapBlazer/Suckvoy/Yuckvada/9-7x/Ascender…oh how did I forget the Rainier…YUM = GMT360 = deathtraps  
> Equixnox/Torrent/VUE/New XL-7 = Theta

Well they sure fooled me.

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### Author: ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2007, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-an-automotive-first/23636/11 "2007-01-26T12:57:11Z")

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> [@RedGoober4Life](#):
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> No.
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> Acadia/Outlook/Enclave = Lambda  
> CrapBlazer/Suckvoy/Yuckvada/9-7x/Ascender…oh how did I forget the Rainier…YUM = GMT360 = deathtraps  
> Equixnox/Torrent/VUE/New XL-7 = Theta

I hope you looked that up and don’t just know it off the top of your head.

What about the H3?

I like the look of the Saab but I know deep down its just a Trailblazer.

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### Author: ![RedGoober4Life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redgoober4life/32/7610_2.png) [@RedGoober4Life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedGoober4Life)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2007, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-an-automotive-first/23636/12 "2007-01-26T12:57:36Z")

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> [@Onyx Z32](#):
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> Do the Hummer H3 and Caddy SRX fit in there too?

I think the H3 is based on the Canyon and the SRX is sigma. Ergo, CTS/STS.

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### Author: ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2007, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-an-automotive-first/23636/13 "2007-01-26T12:58:13Z")

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haha, i saw that corey had posted and i knew the platforms would be named

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### Author: ![rj-92](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rj-92/32/7310_2.png) [@rj-92](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rj-92)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2007, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-an-automotive-first/23636/14 "2007-01-26T13:07:07Z")

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> [@RedGoober4Life](#):
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> I think the H3 is based on the Canyon and the SRX is sigma. Ergo, CTS/STS.

Right on the SRX, the H3 is based on the GMT 360 chassis just like the H2 is based on the Suburban. Although it uses the same basic frame its is a totally different animal. The body, powertrain and suspension (tuning and attachment points) are all unique.

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### Author: ![Violator](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/violator/32/7278_2.png) [@Violator](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Violator)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2007, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-an-automotive-first/23636/15 "2007-01-26T13:11:51Z")

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One more. Thanks Goober, I knew there was another but couldnt find it because I thought it was a Mistubishi.

![http://a138.g.akamai.net/n/138/3538/20030722064707/www.cars.com/stock/350x233/237483.jpg](http://a138.g.akamai.net/n/138/3538/20030722064707/www.cars.com/stock/350x233/237483.jpg)

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### Author: ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2007, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-an-automotive-first/23636/16 "2007-01-26T13:13:36Z")

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WTF is that?

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### Author: ![Violator](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/violator/32/7278_2.png) [@Violator](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Violator)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2007, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-an-automotive-first/23636/17 "2007-01-26T13:14:32Z")

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Isuzu Ascender 🙂

I had a Trailblazer for a few months and I have to admit I was impressed withthe performance and drivability of the truck. It rode well,handled well, and was a lot of fun to drive. I liked it a lot aside from the horrendous interior styling, materials, and finish.

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### Author: ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2007, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-an-automotive-first/23636/18 "2007-01-26T13:16:50Z")

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Vue/equinox/torrent/

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### Author: ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2007, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-an-automotive-first/23636/19 "2007-01-26T13:24:49Z")

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I know what your saying Onyx, I was shotgun in a camaro once and it was almost identicle to a firebird. I was like, WTF?

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### Author: ![Violator](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/violator/32/7278_2.png) [@Violator](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Violator)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2007, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-an-automotive-first/23636/20 "2007-01-26T13:26:17Z")

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lol

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