# Is this ethical/legal?
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-ethical-legal/38965
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic
**Created:** [November 19, 2007, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-ethical-legal/38965 "2007-11-19T07:37:13Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2007, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-ethical-legal/38965/1 "2007-11-19T07:37:13Z")
I was talking to a buddy of mine last night. He was kind of pissed about something that was going on at his work that I had never heard of. I’m not really sure what to make of it, so I’d like to hear your thoughts.
His company actively promotes and endorses a single charity. Whatever. Good for them. However, this is the odd part: They are tracking the donations of everyone in the company, including who doesn’t donate. :uhh:
Probably no big deal, just seems kind of sketchy. It’s like their trying to use political power to force donations. He was pretty pissed about it.
So what do you think? Is it cool for a company to keep a database of who has donated what to their charity and who hasn’t donated at all?
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### Author:  [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2007, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-ethical-legal/38965/2 "2007-11-19T07:42:54Z")
That’s shitty.
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### Author:  [@mike125k](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mike125k)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2007, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-ethical-legal/38965/3 "2007-11-19T07:43:02Z")
Is it the Human Fund?
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### Author:  [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2007, 7:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-ethical-legal/38965/4 "2007-11-19T07:55:50Z")
donating to charity n such is free will and not something that’s expected right? soooo…that seems a bit shady
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### Author:  [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2007, 7:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-ethical-legal/38965/5 "2007-11-19T07:58:01Z")
Shady as hell.
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### Author:  [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2007, 8:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-ethical-legal/38965/6 "2007-11-19T08:08:36Z")
+1 for shady.
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### Author:  [@focusinprogress](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/focusinprogress)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2007, 8:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-ethical-legal/38965/7 "2007-11-19T08:11:05Z")
+1 for shady, thats just wrong trying to employ guilt as a means to get more donations
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### Author:  [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2007, 8:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-ethical-legal/38965/8 "2007-11-19T08:11:40Z")
def shady, but justifiable in a cold sense. so long as they are not broadcasting the info to everyone.
could be for tax purposes
could be for recognition purposes
could be part of Skynet :eekdance:
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### Author:  [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2007, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-ethical-legal/38965/9 "2007-11-19T08:12:11Z")
What company is doing this?
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### Author:  [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2007, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-ethical-legal/38965/10 "2007-11-19T08:20:22Z")
I don’t want to divulge my buddy’s info.
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### Author:  [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2007, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-ethical-legal/38965/11 "2007-11-19T08:22:36Z")
I guess I would want to know what they are doing with the info. before I would label it a as a negative thing.
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### Author:  [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2007, 8:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-ethical-legal/38965/12 "2007-11-19T08:25:03Z")
Yeah. I was trying to tell him it’s probably nothing. I guess it’s been going on for a few years without any negative consequences that he knew of. He just all bent out of shape about the idea of it.
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### Author:  [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2007, 8:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-ethical-legal/38965/13 "2007-11-19T08:27:36Z")
[quote=“Fry,post:12,topic:38965"”]
Yeah. I was trying to tell him it’s probably nothing. I guess it’s been going on for a few years without any negative consequences that he knew of. He just all bent out of shape about the idea of it.
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While I agree the idea wouldnt sit right with me either, if its just for pure accounting purposes or just pure information then I wouldnt lose too much sleep about it.
However if they made a big poster of your face and put it on picket boards and marched around the office saying “XXX Doesnt donate a penny to XXX” while they have a cake party for a person who contributes 50% of their paycheck…
Then I would be upset.
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### Author:  [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2007, 8:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-ethical-legal/38965/14 "2007-11-19T08:27:49Z")
Odd.
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### Author:  [@Avatar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Avatar)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2007, 8:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-ethical-legal/38965/15 "2007-11-19T08:29:21Z")
My guess is this is a United Way campaign. It’s perfectly legal to track direct contributions out of your pay check. May not sit well with those who don’t want to give, but no privacy laws are being violated.
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### Author:  [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2007, 8:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-ethical-legal/38965/16 "2007-11-19T08:29:43Z")
[quote=“2TurboZ,post:13,topic:38965"”]
However if they made a big poster of your face and put it on picket boards and marched around the office saying “XXX Doesnt donate a penny to XXX” while they have a cake party for a person who contributes 50% of their paycheck…
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LOL that’d be sweet. I’d not-donate just to get my face on a poster.
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### Author:  [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2007, 8:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-ethical-legal/38965/17 "2007-11-19T08:30:11Z")
my company probably tracks it too.
they allow us to make weekly deductions… err… donations
to united way.
it probably makes it easier to get more donations if you know who to ask.
we used to have yearly meetings for their pitch, then they would give out the forms.
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### Author:  [@TgDn32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TgDn32)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2007, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-ethical-legal/38965/18 "2007-11-19T08:40:40Z")
Tracking is fine, as long as they don’t act on it in any way that is harmful to the employee’s future/opportunities.
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### Author:  [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2007, 8:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-ethical-legal/38965/19 "2007-11-19T08:52:45Z")
I am sure it is a marketing thing or something so they can say:
“our employees donated X amount of money on top of our donation of X”
My company forces us to donate $5 on Fridays to wear jeans. Not only do they track who donates, but if you are not wearing jeans you look like a jerk. To me its only $5 and its to a good cause so who cares.
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### Author:  [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2007, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-ethical-legal/38965/20 "2007-11-19T09:21:25Z")
hey, as long as they dont hold it against people that dont donate i wouldnt care. hell i work for my money and need every cent. when im making enough and i want to donate i would do it. but if they give you shit for not donating then thats not right
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