# Is this for real!?!?!? someone please let me know **URL:** \ **Category:** Canada Nissan Automotive\ **Created:** [February 19, 2007, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-for-real-someone-please-let-me-know/132986 "2007-02-19T10:59:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 4:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-for-real-someone-please-let-me-know/132986/21 "2007-02-20T04:20:53Z")
> [@tyson still has a chance](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tyson-still-has-a-chance/972/2): > > very understandable and valid point indeed! when i first heard about your club’s site in the making, i had already started to think about what the possible reactions could possibly be. well, to answer your question, in July there were no members whatsoever that partook in any drifting/racing/show events in that period of time, the “coverage” was just brought up about a month ago. Come the 2007 season, we will be sure to have some great coverage on the events happening throughout the sport compact scene. lmao assass1n the +50hp comment is pretty funny, used quite appropriately. so is it +50hp at the flywheel or at the wheels themselves lol 😉 ? i know the villager is a little to much to digest in 1 shot…but it’s something new, more unique, i just tried to be a little different…and i think i might have done that rather successfully:p . but, anyways, feedback is always welcome, i went into the project knowing that people have opinions (in this case a biased opinion) lol, but nevertheless opinions in the same…cant look at u strangely for what you think. what do u guys think of the VG30 i have in there with 308hp lol!!! thats a bit toooo much to soak up lol. first impression upon seeing that car would be just all show no go. but you did try and go for a sleeper car, specially with putting in a vg30 in your van. so you cant really help but get that first impression from most people. same thing with my car, i always get people that go up to me and say “hey, i heard you can get 1000hp with that car on just an ecu”😕 it was funny at first but gets tiring. people get the wrong impression just by looking at a car. congratulations on the vg30. ---
**Author:** ![pcproa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c5a1d2/32.png) [@pcproa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/pcproa)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-for-real-someone-please-let-me-know/132986/22 "2007-02-20T09:42:03Z")
Is that a Quest or a Villager? On your profile it says its a Quest but that looks a Mercury Symbol on the grill. The Quest came stock with a VG30 in there. I don’t remember exactly but didn’t the Ford put a Mitsubishi V6 in the Mercury Villager? A bunch of Nissan cars used the VG30 in that time. Maxima, 300ZX, 200SX (US Version for 1988, CA got a CA18ET), Quest, etc etc. FWD VGs (Maxima, Quest) were built slightly different from RWD VGs (300ZX, 200SX) and it is not easy to put a FWD tranny on a VG Block designed for a RWD car. Is that 308HP at the wheels or at the crank? Dyno chart to support these claims? ---
**Author:** ![s14\_2Nv](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/s14_2nv/32/5476_2.png) [@s14\_2Nv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/s14_2Nv)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-for-real-someone-please-let-me-know/132986/23 "2007-02-20T11:03:50Z")
I was wondering if someone would get around to asking that. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-for-real-someone-please-let-me-know/132986/24 "2007-02-20T12:52:26Z")
> [@Where is the Summer of 2002 crew?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/where-is-the-summer-of-2002-crew/974/3): > > Is that a Quest or a Villager? On your profile it says its a Quest but that looks a Mercury Symbol on the grill. > The Quest came stock with a VG30 in there. I don’t remember exactly but didn’t the Ford put a Mitsubishi V6 in the Mercury Villager? > A bunch of Nissan cars used the VG30 in that time. Maxima, 300ZX, 200SX (US Version for 1988, CA got a CA18ET), Quest, etc etc. > FWD VGs (Maxima, Quest) were built slightly different from RWD VGs (300ZX, 200SX) and it is not easy to put a FWD tranny on a VG Block designed for a RWD car. > Is that 308HP at the wheels or at the crank? Dyno chart to support these claims? patrick just made my head spin from too much info. ---
**Author:** ![RABBIT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/919ad9/32.png) [@RABBIT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RABBIT)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-for-real-someone-please-let-me-know/132986/25 "2007-02-20T14:06:03Z")
> [@How easy is it/Restraining order?????](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-easy-is-it-restraining-order/964/34): > > patrick just made my head spin from too much info. yeah serious ---
**Author:** ![imported\_nismo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/57b2e6/32.png) [@imported\_nismo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_nismo)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-for-real-someone-please-let-me-know/132986/26 "2007-02-20T16:06:17Z")
It is infact a Villager and the Quest and Villager are 100% exactly the same. I like to call it a Quest cuz it’s actually tuned with Nissan/nismo parts (which were retro-fitted from a Maxima) like the injectors for example, along with the 300ZX fuel pump and maxima intake adaptor. And yes lmao, although it may sound absolutely rediculous, 308hp @ wheels, not flywheel lol. With some hefty engine mods: porting & polishing heads, shaved down heads etc. it can be very, very successful, plus since the VG30 series motors are ranked as one of the highest tunable engine’s that nissan made (aside from the SR20’s, RB’s etc.). Anyways, what are you guys driving around here??..too bad my 240 isnt done yet or else i’d post up some pics of that too ☹ . ---
**Author:** ![imported\_nismo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/57b2e6/32.png) [@imported\_nismo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_nismo)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-for-real-someone-please-let-me-know/132986/27 "2007-02-20T16:07:42Z")
why is that mitsubishi thought always around in people when they hear “Mercury Villager”?? bottom line, it’s got a Nissan VG30E motor in it. ---
**Author:** ![captain\_carnage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/94ad74/32.png) [@captain\_carnage](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/captain_carnage)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-for-real-someone-please-let-me-know/132986/28 "2007-02-20T16:12:19Z")
the mercury villager and nissan quest was a joint venture between nissan and ford, designed by nissan, manafuctured at a ford plant, villagers also had the vg30e, we have put quest engines in villagers on 2 occassions, and i dont consider that a “vg swap”… it was more a bolt in, not trying too sound rude, im just saying, quests and villagers are really similar vans, not quiet the same, but damn close! i have honestly contemplated putting the dohc vg from my maxima into my dads villager… but then i realized its retarded, im more a fan of the toyota previas(or even the 80’s toyota van) for that type of stuff. its cool that you did it… but seriously man… the jokes have been done too death about stickers and such, and that van really looks horrid with them… its your choice… but they should just be removed along with the underglow imo… otherwise, if you arent lying… awesome job! ---
**Author:** ![captain\_carnage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/94ad74/32.png) [@captain\_carnage](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/captain_carnage)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-for-real-someone-please-let-me-know/132986/29 "2007-02-20T16:20:31Z")
yea you fixed that before i could… wow we think alike… but i still hate the stickers! good job man! ---
**Author:** ![imported\_nismo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/57b2e6/32.png) [@imported\_nismo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_nismo)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 4:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-for-real-someone-please-let-me-know/132986/30 "2007-02-20T16:45:26Z")
hey! yeah, stickers i think i can even admit i went a little overboard on. im not saying anything about motors because i have a huge amount of respect for each and every motor nissan has ever built. the maxima injectors and intake as i said were kind of retro fitted froma maxima as a “direct part” wasnt made exactly for the villager, but when you throw the maxima motor beside the villager motor, theyre the exact same…the only difference on the maxima (89-90 something) VG30E is the intake manifolds, you can significantly tell the difference between the manifolds on both. otherwise, inside out, theyre all in all exactly the same, except villager is SOHC, some of the newer VG’s are DOHC…which can serve better sometimes. as for dyno charts…i had it done last spring when the heads went in…i will honestly try my best to dig them up out of this mess of paperwork and other garbage. the only problem is scanning them onto the computer…but i think i can manage. the dyno was done in the USA, as I was on my way with my dad to go see some drift racing up there, they had a “portable” dyno meter infront of the track entrance, there were afew people there and the wait wasnt too long…plus it only costed something like $25.00 US to hook it up, so I figured why not? plus, like some of you guys, everyone was skeptical about the van itself, so i said why not…to be honest, i was only expecting 250-270 hp maximum…turns out it was alot more. anyways, ill be searching. ---
**Author:** ![imported\_nismo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/57b2e6/32.png) [@imported\_nismo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_nismo)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-for-real-someone-please-let-me-know/132986/31 "2007-02-20T16:47:42Z")
and omg ID NEVER TOUCH THE UNDERGLOW, I FREAKIN LOVEEEE ITT! meh, its always good to get feedback, this way i can tweak the car in little ways to make it both more credible, simple and cleaner…but the underglow no question cannot come off. ---
**Author:** ![imported\_nismo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/57b2e6/32.png) [@imported\_nismo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_nismo)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-for-real-someone-please-let-me-know/132986/32 "2007-02-20T16:53:18Z")
and one thing…can someone please explain to me the difference between HP and PS?? like when a jap-spec power rating says overall power and it says like 450PS…how much horsepower (HP) is that? i know its kinda confusing, but do your best if u can…thanks! ---
**Author:** ![MikeP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MikeP](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MikeP)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 6:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-for-real-someone-please-let-me-know/132986/33 "2007-02-20T18:38:10Z")
1hp = 1.014ps (I forget what it stands for but it’s basically metric horsepower) Soooo… 450ps = 444hp (almost, your butt dyno won’t tell the difference :drivin ) Your van has 312ps 😃 Mike \*\*Edit, searched and found this: ps is the symbol for pferdestärke, which is German for horsepower. The symbol ps is used in both the German and Japanese markets. ---
**Author:** ![imported\_nismo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/57b2e6/32.png) [@imported\_nismo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_nismo)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-for-real-someone-please-let-me-know/132986/34 "2007-02-20T19:41:36Z")
thanks Mike! eee, im starting to like PS better now…makes it sound higher and i like it better than saying HP…say it PS lmao. sounds weired actually lol:hmm 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Hanzzzzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3e96dc/32.png) [@Hanzzzzz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hanzzzzz)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 5:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-for-real-someone-please-let-me-know/132986/35 "2007-02-21T05:25:06Z")
what transmission are you running on your van? why does it not explode? you should throw some 13 inch wires on, that would be sick. or lift it with 22’s, i saw shit like that in florida, they call them donks (lifted old school impala’s with 36’s) its nuts, i even saw an 05 accord sedan with 22’s ---
**Author:** ![pcproa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c5a1d2/32.png) [@pcproa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/pcproa)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 5:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-for-real-someone-please-let-me-know/132986/36 "2007-02-21T05:31:26Z")
I’ve been watching a lot from the Z31 and Z32 scene and I’ve heard otherwise about any VG series motor. The only effective power adder is turbo. This holds true to most engines but this engine (VG30E and VG30DE) have almost nothing available to boost the power. There are the common adders. Porting and Polishing does marginal gains as the flow pattern on the VG engines are pretty good from what I understand. When I go anywhere and ask about the VG30DE in my 300ZX, everyone says not to waste my time with the DE and swap in a DETT motor. I’m confused with the Maxima intake manifold thing. Are we talking about the SOHC (VG30E) or the DOHC (VG30DE)??? The injectors can probably be used whether it’s a DOHC or SOHC but I’ve never heard of anyone putting a DOHC manifold onto a SOHC engine. What year Maxima are we talking anyway? The Maxima didn’t get the DOHC cam version of the VG. They got a VE or something like that when the trucks were getting the VG bored to 3.3L and the cars were getting the DOHC version still at 3.0L. ---
**Author:** ![Hanzzzzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3e96dc/32.png) [@Hanzzzzz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hanzzzzz)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 5:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-for-real-someone-please-let-me-know/132986/37 "2007-02-21T05:52:50Z")
> [@Oh mother...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oh-mother/978/10): > > I’ve been watching a lot from the Z31 and Z32 scene and I’ve heard otherwise about any VG series motor. The only effective power adder is turbo. > This holds true to most engines but this engine (VG30E and VG30DE) have almost nothing available to boost the power. I read something to that affect in Sport Compact Car magazine. a guy wrote in asking how to build a high horsepower VG30E for his Z31. they said the 2-valve per cylinder head design would make it nearly impossible to get 300hp and he would have to bore it, run very high compression pistons, an un-streetable cam, and that he would be better off swapping in an RB. considering you lose roughly 25% of your power through an automatic transmission 300/0.75 = 400 you would have to be making around 400hp at the crank if you are running an automatic transmission, which makes your claim very hard to believe considering the modifications mentioned. this means either the dyno you ran on was wrong, or you are lying. ---
**Author:** ![BMWWW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e5b9ba/32.png) [@BMWWW](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BMWWW)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 6:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-for-real-someone-please-let-me-know/132986/38 "2007-02-21T06:05:41Z")
I don’t think he’s lying. It’s probably the case of the crappy, street-side dyno, giving out inaccurate dyno numbers. I recall him being a cool guy, so I’m giving him excuses. :R ---
**Author:** ![Hanzzzzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3e96dc/32.png) [@Hanzzzzz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hanzzzzz)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 6:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-for-real-someone-please-let-me-know/132986/39 "2007-02-21T06:30:35Z")
> [@BMWWW"](#): > > I don’t think he’s lying. It’s probably the case of the crappy, street-side dyno, giving out inaccurate dyno numbers. > > I recall him being a cool guy, so I’m giving him excuses. :R Considering it only cost him $25 to run, I would have to agree with you. Nismo guy, I think you got screwed. ---
**Author:** ![s14\_2Nv](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/s14_2nv/32/5476_2.png) [@s14\_2Nv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/s14_2Nv)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 6:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-for-real-someone-please-let-me-know/132986/40 "2007-02-21T06:32:37Z")
> [@The Logo is finally up!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-logo-is-finally-up/958/33): > > So do you have dyno charts for this 308whp mini-van? Don’t think I’m saying you’re full of shit, just call me skeptical. > > Honest questions: > > Why would you put maxima injectors in a VG30DE? I would think the VG injectors would have a higher flow, no? Also, why the Maxima intake?.. You say the VG30 is ranked as one of the highest tunable engines that Nissan made, aside from the SR20, RB, etc… Well what other performance motors have they put out besides the VG, SR, and RB series? (CA (read: RB -2 cylenders), KA (not the best for tuning, but we know that, works wonders as a KA-T))… What else though? > > There’s a mix of cars over here, some of everything, really. Lots of us 240 owners, a fair little 350Z crew, some Maximas, and a couple Skylines. > > Also, if you did all those mods to the van, and it’s tuned Nissan school, why not swap the grill assembly for a Nissan Quest grill? They are the same, I would think it’s a drop in swap… Don’t forget FJ20… google it if you don’t know. Great engine. Now onto the VG30E in the van. Stock power is 153 hp (not whp) and 182 tq. I find it hard to believe even with major engine work that your engine is putting out over 300 whp. What tq number do you have? Near 400? Like most nissan motors, the way to get power out of them is by adding a turbo. N/A mods will not yield such high results on a 3.0 engine. I don’t mean to rag on you, but it’s just hard to believe. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-for-real-someone-please-let-me-know/132986.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-for-real-someone-please-let-me-know/132986.md?page=3)