# Israel vs Gaza

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**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [December 29, 2008, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israel-vs-gaza/60431 "2008-12-29T10:34:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![jt76](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jt76/32/5100_2.png) [@jt76](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jt76)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2008, 11:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israel-vs-gaza/60431/21 "2008-12-29T11:31:18Z")

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> [@boxxa](#):
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> Hahaha. I think going to UB and living in the city now has made me prejudice against every race and religion.

> [@ILC](#):
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> Living in the city certainly didn’t help me like black people

:word: this is sad… but a true statement

The worst thing that was done in the post WWII world was the creation is Israel. The fighting there will never stop no matter who is in power.

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2008, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israel-vs-gaza/60431/22 "2008-12-29T11:47:56Z")

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Whenever I read about religious fighting I think of this lyric…

Imagine there’s no Heaven  
It’s easy if you try  
No hell below us  
Above us only sky  
Imagine all the people  
Living for today

Imagine there’s no countries  
It isn’t hard to do  
Nothing to kill or die for  
And no religion too  
Imagine all the people  
Living life in peace

You may say that I’m a dreamer  
But I’m not the only one  
I hope someday you’ll join us  
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions  
I wonder if you can  
No need for greed or hunger  
A brotherhood of man  
Imagine all the people  
Sharing all the world

You may say that I’m a dreamer  
But I’m not the only one  
I hope someday you’ll join us  
And the world will live as one

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2008, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israel-vs-gaza/60431/23 "2008-12-29T11:50:34Z")

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Marxist. :roll2:

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**Author:** ![9c1ny](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/9c1ny/32/5050_2.png) [@9c1ny](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/9c1ny)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2008, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israel-vs-gaza/60431/24 "2008-12-29T12:07:46Z")

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> [@Freek](#):
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> as much as i ate to say it. if we never backed israel we wouldn’t have half the problems we do today.

+100000000 we wouldnt have 99% of the problems we have today

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**Author:** ![9c1ny](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/9c1ny/32/5050_2.png) [@9c1ny](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/9c1ny)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2008, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israel-vs-gaza/60431/25 "2008-12-29T12:09:09Z")

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Just a small example of how good Israel has been to us over the years-

[http://www.gtr5.com/](http://www.gtr5.com/)

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2008, 7:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israel-vs-gaza/60431/26 "2008-12-30T07:04:19Z")

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> [@Netanyahu to Reuters](#):
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> Q. And if you’re elected prime minister in the coming election, will removing the Hamas administration in Gaza be a key goal of your government?
> 
> A. “Yes.”
> 
> Q. And how would you go about it?
> 
> A. “With all the means necessary to achieve it.”

Oh good.  
[http://uk.reuters.com/article/burningIssues/idUKTRE4BT2X320081230?pageNumber=1&virtualBrandChannel=0](http://uk.reuters.com/article/burningIssues/idUKTRE4BT2X320081230?pageNumber=1&virtualBrandChannel=0)

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**Post date:** [December 30, 2008, 7:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israel-vs-gaza/60431/27 "2008-12-30T07:11:17Z")

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Netanyahu was prime minister once before.

This is the kind of thing that makes me glad to hold oil futures.

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**Post date:** [December 30, 2008, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israel-vs-gaza/60431/28 "2008-12-30T07:33:01Z")

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Ok, so what’s Hamas’s side of the story? What’s their rational for launching rocket attacks on civilians in Israel?

Being honest here, I really haven’t spent much time reading up on this topic. It’s always been one of those, “they’re never going to stop fighting, so why bother trying to understand it” kind of things for me.

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**Post date:** [December 30, 2008, 7:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israel-vs-gaza/60431/29 "2008-12-30T07:49:38Z")

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I lold

> [@ILC](#):
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> I got hamas at the falafel bar last week

I pissed my pants

> [@Fry](#):
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> What do Jews have against mashed chick peas anyway?

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**Post date:** [December 30, 2008, 8:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israel-vs-gaza/60431/30 "2008-12-30T08:59:44Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> Ok, so what’s Hamas’s side of the story? What’s their rational for launching rocket attacks on civilians in Israel?
> 
> Being honest here, I really haven’t spent much time reading up on this topic. It’s always been one of those, “they’re never going to stop fighting, so why bother trying to understand it” kind of things for me.

Israel has blocked shipments of everything into Palestine for some time now. That includes food and medical supplies. That is on top of many years of Israel setting up scattered developments in Palestine in an attempt to take over their land. Israel will come in, knock down a bunch of Palestine homes, build their own and then start shooting Palestinians when they throw rocks to defend their houses.

Honestly, Israel is the bully here, it is very clear.

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**Post date:** [December 30, 2008, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israel-vs-gaza/60431/31 "2008-12-30T10:20:22Z")

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Fuck the middle east, what a waste of prime baja racing territory.

My bet is on Israel by 20 in the 4th quarter.

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**Post date:** [December 30, 2008, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israel-vs-gaza/60431/32 "2008-12-30T10:22:11Z")

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> [@Penfold](#):
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> Israel has blocked shipments of everything into Palestine for some time now. That includes food and medical supplies. That is on top of many years of Israel setting up scattered developments in Palestine in an attempt to take over their land. Israel will come in, knock down a bunch of Palestine homes, build their own and then start shooting Palestinians when they throw rocks to defend their houses.
> 
> Honestly, Israel is the bully here, it is very clear.

all of that is 50% true.

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**Post date:** [December 30, 2008, 10:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israel-vs-gaza/60431/33 "2008-12-30T10:24:01Z")

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> [@Penfold](#):
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> Israel has blocked shipments of everything into Palestine for some time now. That includes food and medical supplies. That is on top of many years of Israel setting up scattered developments in Palestine in an attempt to take over their land. Israel will come in, knock down a bunch of Palestine homes, build their own and then start shooting Palestinians when they throw rocks to defend their houses.
> 
> Honestly, Israel is the bully here, it is very clear.

But aren’t the majority of Israeli attacks the response to Hamas attacks?

> **[Satellite News and latest stories | The Jerusalem Post](https://www.jpost.com/Tags/satellite)**
>
> Breaking news about Satellite from The Jerusalem Post. Read the latest updates on Satellite including articles, videos, opinions and more.

^ Good example. Israel doesn’t get hit with rockets for a while, they open up the borders to food and fuel. Shortly after they’re hit with rockets, they shut down the border again.

It’s just not worth the time. Extreme religious people want a tiny chunk of land. There won’t be peace until there is only one religion left standing.

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**Post date:** [December 30, 2008, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israel-vs-gaza/60431/34 "2008-12-30T10:28:34Z")

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> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#):
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> Whenever I read about religious fighting I think of this lyric…
> 
> Imagine there’s no Heaven  
> It’s easy if you try  
> No hell below us  
> Above us only sky  
> Imagine all the people  
> Living for today
> 
> Imagine there’s no countries  
> It isn’t hard to do  
> Nothing to kill or die for  
> And no religion too  
> Imagine all the people  
> Living life in peace
> 
> You may say that I’m a dreamer  
> But I’m not the only one  
> I hope someday you’ll join us  
> And the world will be as one
> 
> Imagine no possessions  
> I wonder if you can  
> No need for greed or hunger  
> A brotherhood of man  
> Imagine all the people  
> Sharing all the world
> 
> You may say that I’m a dreamer  
> But I’m not the only one  
> I hope someday you’ll join us  
> And the world will live as one

Great song. Could be a great reality. Too bad human nature gets in the way of all that.

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**Post date:** [December 30, 2008, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israel-vs-gaza/60431/35 "2008-12-30T10:37:09Z")

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I would put some money on it that Israel is not just retaliating all the time. I am not saying either is right but I bet they are both to blame

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**Post date:** [December 30, 2008, 10:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israel-vs-gaza/60431/36 "2008-12-30T10:41:46Z")

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I think Turkey should take it all back. They had that shit on lockdown for like 1000 years.

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**Post date:** [December 30, 2008, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israel-vs-gaza/60431/37 "2008-12-30T12:36:02Z")

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> [@Fry](#):
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> :word: No need to risk seeing him face to face just to see where he was crucified.

Woah, thats fucking deep, man.

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**Post date:** [December 30, 2008, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israel-vs-gaza/60431/38 "2008-12-30T12:40:45Z")

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> [@Freek](#):
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> as much as i ate to say it. if we never backed israel we wouldn’t have half the problems we do today.

As much as I hate to say it. The world would have almost no problems if religion didn’t exist.

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**Post date:** [December 30, 2008, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israel-vs-gaza/60431/39 "2008-12-30T12:47:29Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
>
> But aren’t the majority of Israeli attacks the response to Hamas attacks?
> 
> [Satellite News and latest stories | The Jerusalem Post](http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1226404835055&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull)
> 
> ^ Good example. Israel doesn’t get hit with rockets for a while, they open up the borders to food and fuel. Shortly after they’re hit with rockets, they shut down the border again.
> 
> It’s just not worth the time. Extreme religious people want a tiny chunk of land. There won’t be peace until there is only one religion left standing.

I say we have a religous death match. Take the best fighter from all the religions…the survivor is the true religion becuase they had god on their side lol.

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**Post date:** [December 30, 2008, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israel-vs-gaza/60431/40 "2008-12-30T12:49:51Z")

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My money’s on the one started by Abraham!

Oh shit. That could be Christian, or Judaism, or Muslim.

“But Fry, what do you mean they all have the same roots?” :mindfuck:

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