# Israel vs Gaza **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [December 29, 2008, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israel-vs-gaza/60431 "2008-12-29T10:34:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![9c1ny](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/9c1ny/32/5050_2.png) [@9c1ny](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/9c1ny)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israel-vs-gaza/60431/61 "2008-12-31T09:30:31Z")
> [@Violator](#): > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37MFa7ZKQWo](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37MFa7ZKQWo) > > The real story is not seen or heard by Americans because most of it is filtered out by Israeli owned/controlled news media outlets. Many people can agree that American news media is kind of a joke in many respects but that is more true then you know. > > Washington lobbyists funnel American taxpayer money to Israel for no good reason and shape American policy to strengthen Israel. Israel has been **terrorizing** the Palestinians for years. Literally kicking families out of their homes in the middle of the night and bulldozing the houses to make room for Jewish settlements. > > American money and weapons just aid this process. It might as well be Americans doing this since that is where the funding and means come from. > American support of Israel is why this level of terrorism exists today. > > The arabs have plenty of reason to be pissed for America sticking its nose into their affairs. :bigclap: thank you!!! I am glad SOMEONE knows whats really going on! ---
**Author:** ![upstateclipse](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/upstateclipse/32/7348_2.png) [@upstateclipse](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/upstateclipse)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 9:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israel-vs-gaza/60431/62 "2008-12-31T09:35:45Z")
> [@Violator](#): > > Israel has been **terrorizing** the Palestinians for years. Perfect statement. I don’t think it’s wrong or right but I do think that the United States needs to not be involved in helping them. ---
**Author:** ![9c1ny](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/9c1ny/32/5050_2.png) [@9c1ny](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/9c1ny)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israel-vs-gaza/60431/63 "2008-12-31T09:43:56Z")
> [@upstateclipse](#): > > Perfect statement. I don’t think it’s wrong or right but I do think that the United States needs to not be involved in helping them. I think its wrong but thats why we have a United Nations, its not up to the United States to play world peace keeper ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israel-vs-gaza/60431/64 "2008-12-31T14:40:55Z")
> **[Olmert: No peace in Gaza till Hamas rockets stop - CNN.com](http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/12/31/gaza.israel/index.html)** > > Prime Minister Ehud Olmert vowed Wednesday that Israel's air assault on Gaza would not end until Hamas militants quit firing rockets into Israeli territory. > “Israel will not accept a ‘Strip of Terror’ alongside us, and accordingly Hamas operatives have **tasted the flavor of Israel’s response** in the last few days,” Israeli President Shimon Peres said. Bet it tastes a lot like this: ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israel-vs-gaza/60431/65 "2008-12-31T15:29:20Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > [Olmert: No peace in Gaza till Hamas rockets stop - CNN.com](http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/12/31/gaza.israel/index.html) > > Bet it tastes a lot like this: I bet it tastes more like the deaths of hundreds of civilians. They are both nothing more than a bunch of murderers. ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israel-vs-gaza/60431/66 "2008-12-31T15:45:55Z")
Nearly 400 dead and 2000 wounded. I bet that will show them. :meh: ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israel-vs-gaza/60431/67 "2009-01-07T20:43:51Z")
[http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/01/07/israel.gaza/index.html?eref=rss\_world](http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/01/07/israel.gaza/index.html?eref=rss_world) 3 hour truce every other day to let humanitarian aid in lasted… 15 minutes. I’m glad we’re staying out of this one thus far. ---
**Author:** ![j\_espo1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/j_espo1/32/7291_2.png) [@j\_espo1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/j_espo1)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 5:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israel-vs-gaza/60431/68 "2009-01-08T05:07:20Z")
now “Lebanese militants” are firing rockets into Israel from Lebanon. Cant wait to see Israels response to this. ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 5:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israel-vs-gaza/60431/69 "2009-01-08T05:11:39Z")
LOL. Time to fuck shit up and release those zombie Elvis impersonators that the military has been covering up since the 60’s. ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 8:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israel-vs-gaza/60431/70 "2009-01-08T08:42:51Z")
I just hope that when the Middle East decides to try an attack Israel we just stay out of it. ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 6:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israel-vs-gaza/60431/71 "2009-01-09T06:10:32Z")
Both sides rejected a UN cease fire. Body count now is nearly 800 palestinians dead, less than 20 Israelis. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 6:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israel-vs-gaza/60431/72 "2009-01-09T06:18:03Z")
wow, palestinians were smart to reject the cease fire then :tup: ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israel-vs-gaza/60431/73 "2009-01-09T07:15:33Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > wow, palestinians were smart to reject the cease fire then :tup: x10 you guys are all nuts accusing jews of controlling the US. “look at how many people are jewish and in the senate” sure, and how many are catholic Italians? ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 8:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israel-vs-gaza/60431/74 "2009-01-09T08:07:10Z")
I have to give credit to Israel for how they are fighting this. They’re going after them hard, even when they hide amongst civilians. When civilians die Israel just issues a statement saying, “militants were firing on us from that civilian building, too bad”, and moves on. As a militant if you want to use civilians as human shields it’s your fault when they die, not your attackers. If we had done this in Iraq the war probably would have been over long ago. ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israel-vs-gaza/60431/75 "2009-01-09T08:10:38Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > I have to give credit to Israel for how they are fighting this. They’re going after them hard, even when they hide amongst civilians. When civilians die Israel just issues a statement saying, “militants were firing on us from that civilian building, too bad”, and moves on. As a militant if you want to use civilians as human shields it’s your fault when they die, not your attackers. > > If we had done this in Iraq the war probably would have been over long ago. Why would you give them credit for that? Israel is simply setting themselves up for a fall, the more they do this shit the more people will turn away from them, the more they will lose support in the world. I can see one day an all out war happening and it being a blood bath on both sides but with the ultimate destruction of Israel. ---
**Author:** ![Maksim2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dec6dc/32.png) [@Maksim2000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Maksim2000)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 8:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israel-vs-gaza/60431/76 "2009-01-09T08:19:02Z")
Just to pick on a copule things… > [@9c1ny](#): > > because they fucking control the US > > how many people in the Senate are jewish/have dual citizenship? ~10 and none hold dual citizenship, although that can get funny with Israel automatically granting citizenship to US jews - I’d think it’d be difficult to get elected being a “practicing” dual citizen. > [@9c1ny](#): > > How many major corporations are owned by jewish decent? Well most publicly owned companies are owned by their shareholders… so who knows there… right? Dunno… I guess we can look at founders Top 10 by revenue: 1: Walmart - I guess this is a “no” 2: ExxonMobil - Rockefeller - no 3 Chevron - see #2 4: GM - Billy Durant - no 5: ConocoPhillips - Marland - no 6:Ge -Edison - no 7:Ford - Ford -Ummm… yeah… no… 8: Citibank - Osgood - no 9: BofA - Giannini - no 10:AT&T - Bell - no I think Goldman Sachs is the first one at #20… ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israel-vs-gaza/60431/77 "2009-01-09T08:20:45Z")
> [@StrokedZ28](#): > > Why would you give them credit for that? Because that’s how war works. People die, innocent people included. When you try to have a war and guarantee no civilian deaths you have a quagmire. ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 9:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israel-vs-gaza/60431/78 "2009-01-09T09:10:27Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > Because that’s how war works. People die, innocent people included. When you try to have a war and guarantee no civilian deaths you have a quagmire. Bullshit, you can’t justify the right of killing nearly a thousand people because a dozen were killed by a terrorist organization. This isn’t a war its a bloodbath. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 9:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israel-vs-gaza/60431/79 "2009-01-09T09:22:02Z")
> [@StrokedZ28](#): > > Bullshit, you can’t justify the right of killing nearly a thousand people because a dozen were killed by a terrorist organization. > > This isn’t a war its a bloodbath. Palestinians admit the majority are “militants” don’t try to say that 1,000 innocent people died, that’s complete BS. Plus… Palestinians have been firing rockets into civilian areas for a long time now, why make the Israelis to take on addition casualties to try to avoid hitting civilians… who have been told to stay at home anyway, when the Palestinians target civilians? ---
**Author:** ![upstateclipse](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/upstateclipse/32/7348_2.png) [@upstateclipse](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/upstateclipse)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 9:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israel-vs-gaza/60431/80 "2009-01-09T09:29:57Z")
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