# IsraelI & Lebanon **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [July 21, 2006, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israeli-lebanon/14867 "2006-07-21T10:07:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DrDoS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ccd318/32.png) [@DrDoS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DrDoS)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2006, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israeli-lebanon/14867/1 "2006-07-21T10:07:34Z")
Does any one else feel bad about this sitatuion going on down there?? cuz i sure do , and i am not sure if the US should get involved or not… do you think the US should or not? ---
**Author:** ![micah](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/micah/32/7257_2.png) [@micah](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/micah)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2006, 10:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israeli-lebanon/14867/2 "2006-07-21T10:08:33Z")
what silly geese, flyin into eachother – Two Israeli Apache helicopters crash into each other over northern Israel, the IDF says, adding there are casualties. ---
**Author:** ![j\_espo1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/j_espo1/32/7291_2.png) [@j\_espo1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/j_espo1)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2006, 10:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israeli-lebanon/14867/3 "2006-07-21T10:11:07Z")
i think Isreal should go nuts. i mean enough is enough. people cliam they are overreacting but after all these years of bombs, threats, suicide bombers and innocent people being killed they should NOT STOP till the enemy is destroyed. Id love it if Iran and Syria (AND FRANCE 😉 ) got what they have coming to them too for supporting Hezbollah or what ever the fuck they spell it. ---
**Author:** ![MikeRi24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@MikeRi24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MikeRi24)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2006, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israeli-lebanon/14867/4 "2006-07-21T10:12:27Z")
IMO, i think they (the US) are doing a good thing by helping American citizens get the fuck outta there. but ocne they are all out of there, the US military should get out and stay out. they did nothing to us/we did nothing to them so why should we have any bussiness getting involved? ---
**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2006, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israeli-lebanon/14867/5 "2006-07-21T10:15:02Z")
The US has enough shit to worry about. Thats a mess that I don’t think we should be sticking our nose in. ---
**Author:** ![catalyst](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/catalyst/32/7279_2.png) [@catalyst](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/catalyst)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2006, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israeli-lebanon/14867/6 "2006-07-21T13:10:17Z")
> [@Noam Chomsky](#): > > Well, of course, I have no inside information, other than what’s available to you and listeners. What’s happening in Gaza, to start with that – well, basically the current stage of what’s going on – there’s a lot more – begins with the Hamas election, back the end of January. Israel and the United States at once announced that they were going to punish the people of Palestine for voting the wrong way in a free election. And the punishment has been severe. > > At the same time, it’s partly in Gaza, and sort of hidden in a way, but even more extreme in the West Bank, where Olmert announced his annexation program, what’s euphemistically called “convergence” and described here often as a “withdrawal,” but in fact it’s a formalization of the program of annexing the valuable lands, most of the resources, including water, of the West Bank and cantonizing the rest and imprisoning it, since he also announced that Israel would take over the Jordan Valley. Well, that proceeds without extreme violence or nothing much said about it. > > Gaza, itself, the latest phase, began on June 24. It was when Israel abducted two Gaza civilians, a doctor and his brother. We don’t know their names. You don’t know the names of victims. They were taken to Israel, presumably, and nobody knows their fate. The next day, something happened, which we do know about, a lot. Militants in Gaza, probably Islamic Jihad, abducted an Israeli soldier across the border. That’s Corporal Gilad Shalit. And that’s well known; first abduction is not. Then followed the escalation of Israeli attacks on Gaza, which I don’t have to repeat. It’s reported on adequately. > > The next stage was Hezbollah’s abduction of two Israeli soldiers, they say on the border. Their official reason for this is that they are aiming for prisoner release. There are a few, nobody knows how many. Officially, there are three Lebanese prisoners in Israel. There’s allegedly a couple hundred people missing. Who knows where they are? > > But the real reason, I think it’s generally agreed by analysts, is that – I’ll read from the Financial Times, which happens to be right in front of me. “The timing and scale of its attack suggest it was partly intended to reduce the pressure on Palestinians by forcing Israel to fight on two fronts simultaneously.” David Hearst, who knows this area well, describes it, I think this morning, as a display of solidarity with suffering people, the clinching impulse. > > It’s a very – mind you – very irresponsible act. It subjects Lebanese to possible – certainly to plenty of terror and possible extreme disaster. Whether it can achieve any result, either in the secondary question of freeing prisoners or the primary question of some form of solidarity with the people of Gaza, I hope so, but I wouldn’t rank the probabilities very high. Interesting points. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2006, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israeli-lebanon/14867/7 "2006-07-21T14:57:50Z")
> [@JaysGreenLX](#): > > The US has enough shit to worry about. > Thats a mess that I don’t think we should be sticking our nose in. agreed… we’re currently doing the right thing. staying out of shit and saying “resolve it peacefully” lol ---
**Author:** ![DrDoS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ccd318/32.png) [@DrDoS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DrDoS)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2006, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israeli-lebanon/14867/8 "2006-07-21T15:06:22Z")
i am pretty sure the US will some how get involved … ---
**Author:** ![Bigairskier1580](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bigairskier1580/32/7612_2.png) [@Bigairskier1580](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bigairskier1580)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2006, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israeli-lebanon/14867/9 "2006-07-21T15:12:34Z")
The US should stay out as a nation. However, Israel is being very careless. They are bombing the shit out of civilian areas, and even fired artellary shells into a UN building, and tried to deflect the blame. The biggest implication I can see is the whole Iran thing… ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2006, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israeli-lebanon/14867/10 "2006-07-21T17:24:09Z")
After all is said and done, the US should just drop tons and tons of food and medicine for both sides. The number of civilians being killed in this war is rediculous. ---
**Author:** ![\_Karu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/_karu/32/7602_2.png) [@\_Karu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/_Karu)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2006, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israeli-lebanon/14867/11 "2006-07-21T17:46:26Z")
hm, definitely NO. like somebody said before, US got enough sh\*t to deal with. and…u know…if only there’s a tsunami on the coast of lebanon-israel…hmmm…just like the one on my home country, Indonesia… HMM…they’ll stop fighting for sure. ---
**Author:** ![Tunerfreak](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tunerfreak/32/7427_2.png) [@Tunerfreak](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tunerfreak)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2006, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israeli-lebanon/14867/12 "2006-07-21T20:47:24Z")
if the US got involved in this fight it would be WW3 for sure casue then iran and syria would get invloved then all hell would break loose. thats y this war is scaring me right now ---
**Author:** ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2006, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israeli-lebanon/14867/13 "2006-07-21T20:55:16Z")
> [@DrDoS](#): > > Does any one else feel bad about this sitatuion going on down there?? > > cuz i sure do , and i am not sure if the US should get involved or not… > > do you think the US should or not? _ **No.** _ ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2006, 2:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israeli-lebanon/14867/14 "2006-07-23T14:34:39Z")
Well we’re screwed, our glorious ambassador said that Israel is justified in useing the amount of force that they have been useing. ---
**Author:** ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2006, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israeli-lebanon/14867/15 "2006-07-23T14:40:17Z")
I think we should stay the fuck out. Its total bullshit how they have been fighting over like nothing for houndreds of years. Let em blow eachother up. We got too much food on our plate to go in for seconds this early. ---
**Author:** ![AlbinoMonkeyRat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bb73d2/32.png) [@AlbinoMonkeyRat](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AlbinoMonkeyRat)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2006, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/israeli-lebanon/14867/16 "2006-07-23T15:43:26Z")
“over nothing”? The muslims don’t even recognize Isreal as a country and they want the Jews to get off their land. I think that’s plenty to fight about. But not for the US to fight about.