# IT Help Needed. **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [October 10, 2007, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/it-help-needed/192970 "2007-10-10T17:58:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![yamaha](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamaha/32/5929_2.png) [@yamaha](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamaha)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2007, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/it-help-needed/192970/1 "2007-10-10T17:58:30Z")
Today our primary server decided to take a \*\*\*\*. The server housed two 80 gig SATA harddisk’s in a Raid 0. Unfortunatley, the weekly backup was also on the server and I did not have a chance to transfer it before this happened. There are alot of important files that I need to get off the server. My problem is, if I hook these back up and attempt to log into Windows, the directory service has become corrupt, and I can not to any type of restore of it. I NEED to get these files back. I already replaced the harddisk’s with two Western Digital 360 gig drives in a Raid 1 if this decides to happen again. Thanks in advance, Sean ---
**Author:** ![noahTHEpurdy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/87869e/32.png) [@noahTHEpurdy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/noahTHEpurdy)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2007, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/it-help-needed/192970/2 "2007-10-10T18:59:21Z")
Plug them into another computer and boot to a Knoppix Linux Distro. You should be able to access the files through Linux and make a backup from there. ---
**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2007, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/it-help-needed/192970/3 "2007-10-10T20:37:32Z")
would you guys stop with the knoppix crap already, it’s gay. 😃 What OS? Can you access the recovery console if it’s 2003 server? Since you already replaced the drives, can you plug them in and retrieve data off them? Why don’t you have the backup going off of the server? Tape drives aren’t that expensive and would save a ton or headache. Is this for work? ---
**Author:** ![noahTHEpurdy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/87869e/32.png) [@noahTHEpurdy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/noahTHEpurdy)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2007, 9:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/it-help-needed/192970/4 "2007-10-10T21:48:36Z")
> [@Who wants to race the R1?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/who-wants-to-race-the-r1/32719/52): > > would you guys stop with the knoppix crap already, it’s gay. 😃 Hahaha, it may be, it it’d be damn quicker than trying to deal with Windows. I concur about the tape drives though. If the data is that important, you should always have a backup of a backup at least. ---
**Author:** ![yamaha](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamaha/32/5929_2.png) [@yamaha](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamaha)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 3:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/it-help-needed/192970/5 "2007-10-11T03:55:10Z")
Operating system is Windows 2003. I can get into the recovery console just fine. I attempted to plug the drives directly in to recover data, but am unable to access one drive. We have a tape drive, but it does not do a complete system backup of the server, only database files. The complete server backup was just to a file, and then would be transfered. ---
**Author:** ![JackdUp](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jackdup/32/6015_2.png) [@JackdUp](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JackdUp)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 4:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/it-help-needed/192970/6 "2007-10-11T04:15:37Z")
Hardware RAID controller on the system you can access and use the diagnostics to see if the stripe set is intact? ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 6:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/it-help-needed/192970/7 "2007-10-11T06:11:07Z")
raid 0 pwm@ge that is why mirrored is important if you’re going to fragment your data across disks… with raid 0 the drives are beat if you lose one because the disks write fragmented… ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 6:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/it-help-needed/192970/8 "2007-10-11T06:13:07Z")
> [@How does one measure wealth](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-does-one-measure-wealth/32801/60): > > Plug them into another computer and boot to a Knoppix Linux Distro. You should be able to access the files through Linux and make a backup from there. why would he boot knoppix when he can just boot bartsPE? all you do with barts is put the drivers files in a folder and burn the disk… this isn’t a desktop with IDE drives… it’s much more logical to use a barts or winpe disk… like 10000times more logical. have you ever booted knoppix and installed raid drivers, not even to mention finding the appropriate raid driver for linux? why go through the hassle just to recover windows data anyway… ---
**Author:** ![Quik83Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik83z/32/6042_2.png) [@Quik83Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik83Z)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 6:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/it-help-needed/192970/9 "2007-10-11T06:31:52Z")
> [@So, I'm going through the Ultima UK site....](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-im-going-through-the-ultima-uk-site/32944/17): > > Today our primary server decided to take a \*\*\*\*. The server housed two 80 gig SATA harddisk’s in a Raid 0. Unfortunatley, the weekly backup was also on the server and I did not have a chance to transfer it before this happened. There are alot of important files that I need to get off the server. My problem is, if I hook these back up and attempt to log into Windows, the directory service has become corrupt, and I can not to any type of restore of it. I NEED to get these files back. I already replaced the harddisk’s with two Western Digital 360 gig drives in a Raid 1 if this decides to happen again. > > Thanks in advance, > Sean You were not really specific about why the server took a \*\*\*\*. If you lost a hard drive, then you’re fucked. If the system board crapped out, you should be able to plug the drives into a different motherboard that supports RAID 0 and recover the data. RAID 0 should only be used in cases where extreme drive speed is needed (especially write speed) and the data is either expendable or backed-up religiously. RAID 0 offers you NO data protection whatsoever. In fact you don’t even have to lose a drive, if you lose a SECTOR you are fucked because of the way the data is striped across multiple drives. ---
**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 6:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/it-help-needed/192970/10 "2007-10-11T06:54:42Z")
:doh: didn’t even see that he had raid 0, the knoppix answer threw me off. 😃 If it’s that important and you had a tape drive… ---
**Author:** ![whitey](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/whitey/32/5911_2.png) [@whitey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/whitey)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 7:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/it-help-needed/192970/11 "2007-10-11T07:35:26Z")
RAID 0… argh good luck! ---
**Author:** ![thebaron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f14d63/32.png) [@thebaron](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/thebaron)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 7:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/it-help-needed/192970/12 "2007-10-11T07:51:21Z")
I might be able to recover the old drives with one of my suppliers using an expensive recovery program, which is better than the one I have and they are not that expensive. ---
**Author:** ![neonmike22](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ba8739/32.png) [@neonmike22](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonmike22)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 7:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/it-help-needed/192970/13 "2007-10-11T07:52:03Z")
Yeah, running raid 0 on a non-disposable system is bad news. [http://www.drivesavers.com/](http://www.drivesavers.com/) > **[Ontrack | Data Recovery and eDiscovery](https://www.ontrack.com/)** > > Ontrack provides cutting-edge technology services and products to address your critical information needs with data recovery and eDiscovery. ---
**Author:** ![noahTHEpurdy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/87869e/32.png) [@noahTHEpurdy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/noahTHEpurdy)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/it-help-needed/192970/14 "2007-10-11T13:03:25Z")
> [@Fruck you to the blue Impala](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fruck-you-to-the-blue-impala/32952/15): > > :doh: > > didn’t even see that he had raid 0, the knoppix answer threw me off. 😃 > > If it’s that important and you had a tape drive… Doh, me either. Reading \> me. ---
**Author:** ![yamaha](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamaha/32/5929_2.png) [@yamaha](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamaha)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/it-help-needed/192970/15 "2007-10-11T13:26:58Z")
The company that we bought the server from had it mirrored as Raid0, I got the drives hooked up and was able to login with Sade Mode with Networking to transfer the files I needed. Were looking into the Adaptec SNAP server NAS or SAN storage for cases like these. Thanks guys! ---
**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2007, 4:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/it-help-needed/192970/16 "2007-10-12T04:46:06Z")
why not just use the tape backup? ---
**Author:** ![yamaha](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamaha/32/5929_2.png) [@yamaha](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamaha)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2007, 5:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/it-help-needed/192970/17 "2007-10-12T05:02:16Z")
The tape backup only did a specific database, it did not do a system state backup. I used a different program to make a backup of the whole drive, and then would do a weekly transfer. The old tape drive was only a 40/80, since then we bought a new backup with 160/320 capacity. ---
**Author:** ![whitey](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/whitey/32/5911_2.png) [@whitey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/whitey)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2007, 7:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/it-help-needed/192970/18 "2007-10-12T07:57:48Z")
RAID 0 != Mirrored hence why you had this problem.