# J.P. Losman benched for Sundays game **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [October 5, 2005, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/j-p-losman-benched-for-sundays-game/3068 "2005-10-05T14:56:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2005, 6:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/j-p-losman-benched-for-sundays-game/3068/21 "2005-10-05T18:02:58Z")
fucking word. sink or swim time. ---
**Author:** ![blk300tt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ab992/32.png) [@blk300tt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/blk300tt)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2005, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/j-p-losman-benched-for-sundays-game/3068/22 "2005-10-05T18:03:01Z")
> [@Nikuk](#): > > I dont think they projected sales declines this year, what with the defense on a roll the past couple of years and all. Now though, with the defense ‘dragging’ and McGahee stagnent… it could be. > > :shrug: i wouldnt say mcgahee is “stagnant” he had a few very nice runs last week the problem is they give up on the run game as the game progresses and he has limited carries ---
**Author:** ![Carbonfiberhooded](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carbonfiberhooded/32/7608_2.png) [@Carbonfiberhooded](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carbonfiberhooded)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2005, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/j-p-losman-benched-for-sundays-game/3068/23 "2005-10-05T19:02:11Z")
Anybody want to buy the rest of my season tickets? J/K Its still worth going just to tailgate!! ---
**Author:** ![LAFENGAS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lafengas/32/7573_2.png) [@LAFENGAS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LAFENGAS)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2005, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/j-p-losman-benched-for-sundays-game/3068/24 "2005-10-05T19:03:40Z")
i was never on the lossman bandwagon. How many will jump now? ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2005, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/j-p-losman-benched-for-sundays-game/3068/25 "2005-10-05T19:11:47Z")
this guy ---
**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2005, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/j-p-losman-benched-for-sundays-game/3068/26 "2005-10-05T19:17:18Z")
> [@LAFENGAS](#): > > i was never on the lossman bandwagon. How many will jump now? Was there really a bandwagon?? I think you are more likely to find people who thought this was going to be a “rebuilding”-ish year. I surely didn’t think he was going to be our savior. As long as he didn’t screw up too bad I thought maybe we had a shot at winning a few games. ---
**Author:** ![Rx3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rx3/32/7194_2.png) [@Rx3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rx3)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2005, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/j-p-losman-benched-for-sundays-game/3068/27 "2005-10-05T19:21:37Z")
Losman isn’t the problem. Losman is like David Carr. Talented, but with no protection. You see what’s happened to Carr? That’s Losman in 3 years if they keep playing him and don’t get him some bodyguards. ---
**Author:** ![turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_ls1_ss/32/7303_2.png) [@turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbo_ls1_ss)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2005, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/j-p-losman-benched-for-sundays-game/3068/28 "2005-10-05T19:24:57Z")
FUCKING DUMB MOVE :tdown: ---
**Author:** ![Hogan32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hogan32/32/7261_2.png) [@Hogan32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hogan32)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2005, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/j-p-losman-benched-for-sundays-game/3068/29 "2005-10-05T19:40:42Z")
So basically we get rid of Drew to start Holcomb? I thought the purpose of ditching Bledsoe was to DEVELOP JP?? If we ran the ball 30 times a game like smart teams do, JP would do just fine. ---
**Author:** ![Poose22](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/poose22/32/7252_2.png) [@Poose22](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Poose22)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2005, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/j-p-losman-benched-for-sundays-game/3068/30 "2005-10-05T19:41:12Z")
> [@Carbonfiberhooded](#): > > Anybody want to buy the rest of my season tickets? > > J/K > > Its still worth going just to tailgate!! ill buy some tix! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![BubbleSparkxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@BubbleSparkxx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BubbleSparkxx)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2005, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/j-p-losman-benched-for-sundays-game/3068/31 "2005-10-05T19:46:12Z")
IMHO the o-line is looking way better than it has in years. JP is getting enough time to make the throws but he’s simply not throwing them. and when he is throwing them, he’s overthrowing. with the exception of QB, both the defense and offense actually look pretty good. the bills really arent a 1-3 team (or even a 1-16 team like i’m predicting). but the problem is our major weakness is the lack of a real QB. Holcomb is not the answer. i bet if our o-line gave drew the amount of time they’ve given JP, he’d be doing as well here as he’s doing for parcells. ---
**Author:** ![Smaefer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@Smaefer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Smaefer)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2005, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/j-p-losman-benched-for-sundays-game/3068/32 "2005-10-05T19:48:38Z")
> [@BubbleSparkxx](#): > > IMHO the o-line is looking way better than it has in years. JP is getting enough time to make the throws but he’s simply not throwing them. and when he is throwing them, he’s overthrowing. > > with the exception of QB, both the defense and offense actually look pretty good. the bills really arent a 1-3 team (or even a 1-16 team like i’m predicting). but the problem is our major weakness is the lack of a real QB. Holcomb is not the answer. > > i bet if our o-line gave drew the amount of time they’ve given JP, he’d be doing as well here as he’s doing for parcells. Oh snap! Dennis it’s Schaefer. 👋 ---
**Author:** ![Toadsi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/toadsi/32/7316_2.png) [@Toadsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Toadsi)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2005, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/j-p-losman-benched-for-sundays-game/3068/33 "2005-10-05T20:08:38Z")
I guess we’ll all just wait and see what happens. I would like to see a win nonetheless ---
**Author:** ![Pass\_McGass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pass_mcgass/32/7616_2.png) [@Pass\_McGass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pass_McGass)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2005, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/j-p-losman-benched-for-sundays-game/3068/34 "2005-10-05T20:14:56Z")
what a dumb fucking move. ---
**Author:** ![Deuce](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deuce/32/7614_2.png) [@Deuce](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Deuce)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2005, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/j-p-losman-benched-for-sundays-game/3068/35 "2005-10-05T20:28:47Z")
well if nothing else look at it like you are trouble shooting a problem. You want to try and find all the possible causes is it the O-line? is it the QB? etc… i guess by playing holcomb now with all other elements of the team being the same then we can realize it’s JP’s errors. on the other hand, if the results are the same or similar, then we need to look elsewhere, like the O-line, poor coaching, poor player discipline, bad playcalling, poor team management and draft choices etc… It honestly cant hurt to let JP rest a week and take a step back and observe from the sidelines and watch film and practice and study more either way i hope it works out for the bills, and IMO i think tom donahoe has set the team up for failure ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2005, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/j-p-losman-benched-for-sundays-game/3068/36 "2005-10-05T20:56:09Z")
the whole premise of starting JP baffles me, here he assembled a veteran (read: OLD) team to win now, then he starts the rookie QB. either go young and go with JP and let them grow into contenders, or try to win now. On another note, chargers are on national TV again this monday night…word ---
**Author:** ![turbosilly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/91b2a8/32.png) [@turbosilly](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbosilly)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2005, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/j-p-losman-benched-for-sundays-game/3068/37 "2005-10-05T21:16:57Z")
> [@90NA300ZX](#): > > yet another dumb move to add to the list for the coaching staff of the bills… > > the kid is a rookie, what do they expect? this year is sposed to be his year to get comfy, then next year we’ll go for whatever it is they wanna go for…benching him will totally fuck with his head and ruin his confidence, it will make it harder for him to learn how to work with the team as a fine oiled machine, and will make it harder for the team to work with him… > > how can they even blame him? people are saying he’s cocky…other’s say he’s an idiot…i think they’re all wrong… > > the kid has an arm, and he’s totally demonstrated it by over-throwing so many passes (given that he has the chance to get the ball off), and over-throwing isn’t cockyness, it isn’t stupidity, it’s lack of experience, he’s probably still getting used to the pressure of the big leagues, still re-learning the game…i’m no pro, but i bet the NFL is a hell of a lot different from any other league he’s played in before… > > finally, to conclude my rant about the coaching staff…before they should ever bench JP, they should bench the entire offensive line…they give the poor guy less than 2 seconds to get rid of the ball on more than one play a game…hell i might even go as far as saying that it happens, on average, quarterly…that is most certainly not his fault…our players have the potential, but the coaches are really displaying some shitty techniques in trying to pull out that potential…ARGH! > > /rant i agree. our O line sucks, it has for a few years now. just look at how bad everyone said bledsoe was when he was here, now hes in dallas with a really good o line that he didnt have here, and hes doing pretty well. ---
**Author:** ![Bigairskier1580](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bigairskier1580/32/7612_2.png) [@Bigairskier1580](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bigairskier1580)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2005, 9:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/j-p-losman-benched-for-sundays-game/3068/38 "2005-10-05T21:44:27Z")
> [@BubbleSparkxx](#): > > IMHO the o-line is looking way better than it has in years. JP is getting enough time to make the throws but he’s simply not throwing them. and when he is throwing them, he’s overthrowing. > > with the exception of QB, both the defense and offense actually look pretty good. the bills really arent a 1-3 team (or even a 1-16 team like i’m predicting). but the problem is our major weakness is the lack of a real QB. Holcomb is not the answer. > > i bet if our o-line gave drew the amount of time they’ve given JP, he’d be doing as well here as he’s doing for parcells. I don’t know what team you have been watching. The o-line has been atrocious at protecting Losman. The only reason it doesn’t appear to be as bad is because the kid has been able to squeek away from the sack a bunch of times with his legs. As for the rest of the team, I am seeing recievers just dropping balls right in their hands. Easy catches, noone around. And they are dropping them. HORRIBLE secondary coverage, and a total lack of ability to stop any run game. Teams are walking all over our defense that was supposed to be one of the best in the leage going into the season. The whole entire team is a pitiful failure right now. I’m not alleiviating losman from responsibility as he has made some shitty decisions here and there. But aye, he’s still a first season player. You can’t expect him to be as wise as a veteran. And he needs the team around him to produce and be there as well. And they aren’t. ---
**Author:** ![Pass\_McGass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pass_mcgass/32/7616_2.png) [@Pass\_McGass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pass_McGass)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2005, 12:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/j-p-losman-benched-for-sundays-game/3068/39 "2005-10-06T00:53:47Z")
losman is playing about as good as he should be right now with the team thats playing around him. EVERYONE is sucking up da house, not just JP. And honestly, im not even that much of a fan of him. I just think he needs to keep playing so he can get a feel of how the nfl works and get used to the fast pace. One of the most common things ive heard nfl rookies is “this isnt college.” ---
**Author:** ![JDMR2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdmr2/32/7587_2.png) [@JDMR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JDMR2)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2005, 1:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/j-p-losman-benched-for-sundays-game/3068/40 "2005-10-06T01:32:36Z")
anyone else notice how much he moved around in game one, and how little the last 3 games? i bet they told him to stay in the pocket to keep his head attatched… now compare the performance…fuck, watch his feet as he sits in the pocket…all dancing around and shit. this kid knows how to move…thats how he plays…LET THE KID RUN…goddamn… [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/j-p-losman-benched-for-sundays-game/3068.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/j-p-losman-benched-for-sundays-game/3068.md?page=3)