# Jack Davis finds a way to kill two birds with one stone.

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**Created:** [March 15, 2011, 8:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jack-davis-finds-a-way-to-kill-two-birds-with-one-stone/210102 "2011-03-15T08:09:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2011, 8:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jack-davis-finds-a-way-to-kill-two-birds-with-one-stone/210102/1 "2011-03-15T08:09:49Z")

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seriously? :fail:

cliffs: deport the mexicans and put the blacks back in the fields.

> **Congressional candidate Jack Davis shocked local Republican leaders in a recent interview when he suggested that Latino farmworkers be deported – and that African-Americans from the inner city be bused to farm country to pick the crops.**  
> Several sources who were in the Feb. 20 endorsement interview with Davis confirmed his comments, which echo those he made to the Tonawanda News in 2008, when he said: “We have a huge unemployment problem with black youth in our cities. Put them on buses, take them out there [to the farms] and pay them a decent wage; they will work.”  
> When Davis repeated those sentiments in the recent interview, the Republican leaders – who later delivered the party endorsement for the vacant seat in the 26th Congressional District to Assemblywoman Jane L. Corwin of Clarence – said they couldn’t believe what they were hearing.  
> “I was thunderstruck,” said Amherst GOP Chairman Marshall Wood. “Maybe in 1860 that might have been seen by some as an appropriate comment, but not now.”  
> Davis spokesman W. Curtis Ellis acknowledged that Davis’ comments “may not be politically correct and … may not be racially correct.”  
> The revelations about Davis highlighted a busy Monday in the race to replace Rep. Chris Lee, an Amherst Republican who resigned last month after getting caught in an Internet flirtation with a woman who wasn’t his wife.  
> The state Independence and Conservative parties endorsed Corwin on Monday, and local tea party activists held a candidate forum at Brennan’s Bowery Pub in Clarence featuring Davis, Iraq War veteran David Bellavia, of Batavia, and Amherst Council Member Mark A. Manna, a Democrat.  
> When asked before the event about the comments he made, Davis replied: “It’s politics.” He did not address the remarks when he spoke to those assembled at the event.  
> During the Feb. 20 endorsement interview with the district’s Republican leaders, Davis “repeatedly almost disqualified himself” by contradicting typical party positions, said Gordon Brown, the Wyoming County GOP chairman.  
> Davis, an Akron industrialist, ran for Congress as a Democrat in 2004, 2006 and 2008, and was seeking the GOP nod this time.  
> Spurned by the party, he is now collecting signatures in hopes of appearing as the Tea Party candidate in the May 24 special election.  
> Through his campaigns, Davis has struck a populist bent, raging against the impact free trade has had on local manufacturing and the effect illegal immigration has had on the country. Sources said he repeated those sentiments in the February meeting with GOP leaders.  
> “The most racist part was where he said he was busing the blacks in to pick the vegetables,” Brown said.  
> Davis’ comment came in response to a question about immigration, a major issue in the rural parts of the 26th District, where many farmers rely on migrant workers – who are supposed to be on a temporary work visa – to pick the crops.  
> When Davis made his comment, “the room sort of went silent,” Brown said. “It was like: Did I just hear that?”  
> Still, Ellis defended Davis’ comments.  
> “It may not be politically correct and it may not be racially correct, but when you have African American people in Buffalo who do not have jobs and are out of work, why are you bringing people into this country illegally to take jobs?” Ellis asked.  
> Charging that Republicans were discussing Davis’ comments now because they don’t want him on the ballot, Ellis added: “If you want somebody who only has poll-tested words come out of their mouths, Jane Corwin is your candidate.”  
> Meanwhile, Corwin announced that the Independence and Conservative parties had endorsed her, meaning she will have three lines on the ballot.  
> “Jane Corwin is a proven conservative who will fight for Western New York,” said Michael R. Long, the Conservative Party chairman.  
> Corwin said: “The support I’ve been shown by so many has been truly humbling.”

[http://www.buffalonews.com/topics/chris-lee/special-election/article367437.ece](http://www.buffalonews.com/topics/chris-lee/special-election/article367437.ece)

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**Author:** ![Freek](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/freek/32/7357_2.png) [@Freek](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Freek)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2011, 8:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jack-davis-finds-a-way-to-kill-two-birds-with-one-stone/210102/2 "2011-03-15T08:19:18Z")

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With an unemployment rate of about 50% for black men in buffalo is can see the cold hard logic behind it. However, the way it was put it is completely and blatantly racist.

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**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2011, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jack-davis-finds-a-way-to-kill-two-birds-with-one-stone/210102/3 "2011-03-15T08:21:45Z")

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“The most racist part was where he said he was busing the blacks in to pick the vegetables,”

Is it racist because he said blacks? If he said “unemployed” would it have been fine? How is it racist when he is trying to help a race? LoL

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**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2011, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jack-davis-finds-a-way-to-kill-two-birds-with-one-stone/210102/4 "2011-03-15T08:23:15Z")

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if he had replaced the word black with inner-city, people probably would applaud the plan.

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**Author:** ![91MR2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91mr2/32/7217_2.png) [@91MR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91MR2)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2011, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jack-davis-finds-a-way-to-kill-two-birds-with-one-stone/210102/5 "2011-03-15T08:23:28Z")

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While I don’t necessarily agree with all his comments, there is a fine line sometimes between reality and “racist” statements…

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**Author:** ![Karter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e480ec/32.png) [@Karter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Karter)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2011, 8:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jack-davis-finds-a-way-to-kill-two-birds-with-one-stone/210102/6 "2011-03-15T08:26:53Z")

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a job is a job. This one even comes with company supplied transport. Its a hand out, but it involves effort, making it a less viable option to welfare.

The most viable option, is to napalm the ghettos.

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**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2011, 8:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jack-davis-finds-a-way-to-kill-two-birds-with-one-stone/210102/7 "2011-03-15T08:27:46Z")

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Looks like Jack Davis might have some competition with a winning platform like that.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2011, 8:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jack-davis-finds-a-way-to-kill-two-birds-with-one-stone/210102/8 "2011-03-15T08:27:54Z")

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> [@Freek](#):
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> With an unemployment rate of about 50% for black men in buffalo is can see the cold hard logic behind it. However, the way it was put it is completely and blatantly racist.

^ This.

And the part you bolded wasn’t the actual quote, it was the Buffalo News paraphrase that made it sound even worse. The actual quote was **“We have a huge unemployment problem with black youth in our cities. Put them on buses, take them out there [to the farms] and pay them a decent wage; they will work.”** Not great quote for sure, but not as bad as “send them to pick crops” like the Buffalo News changed it to.

The “and pay them a decent wage” was conveniently left out of the Buffalo News opening paragraph. I’m sure the fact that people generally don’t read past there had nothing to do with the Buffalo New’s decision to do so either.

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**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2011, 8:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jack-davis-finds-a-way-to-kill-two-birds-with-one-stone/210102/9 "2011-03-15T08:29:24Z")

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since when did bold imply something was a quote?

lol at defending him, I’m sure deep down he’s not really racist, he just chose a racist example of his great policy ideas.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2011, 8:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jack-davis-finds-a-way-to-kill-two-birds-with-one-stone/210102/10 "2011-03-15T08:31:47Z")

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Just pointing out that yourself and the Buffalo News couldn’t resist making the story a little better by emphasizing something that wasn’t even said.

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**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2011, 8:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jack-davis-finds-a-way-to-kill-two-birds-with-one-stone/210102/11 "2011-03-15T08:33:59Z")

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> [@Freek](#):
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> With an unemployment rate of about 50% for black men in buffalo is can see the cold hard logic behind it. However, the way it was put it is completely and blatantly racist.

Basically sums it up.

African American unemployment is almost double that of White people.

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2011, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jack-davis-finds-a-way-to-kill-two-birds-with-one-stone/210102/12 "2011-03-15T08:53:08Z")

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The Buffalo News makes MSNBC look conservative. I can’t wait for that paper to go under. Their “journalism” doesn’t deserve to exist.

That being said, bussing the unemployed from their homes to a place where they can earn a living with zero training required sounds solid to me. They should do it with the kids at the juvy detention center. The fresh air and hard work will be a hell of a lot more rehabilitating than confining them to jail.

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And how the hell did this thread reach 12 posts without afrank’s thing going off?

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2011, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jack-davis-finds-a-way-to-kill-two-birds-with-one-stone/210102/13 "2011-03-15T08:56:06Z")

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I felt good canceling our subscription along with a letter explaining I can’t take their horrible political spin anymore. We used to get just the Sunday delivered because the wife liked the ads. I got fed up and bookmarked the links to all the local store ads on my laptop so she can use that instead. That paper is sinking fast.

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**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2011, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jack-davis-finds-a-way-to-kill-two-birds-with-one-stone/210102/14 "2011-03-15T08:56:15Z")

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> [@ProgRocker](#):
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> African American unemployment is almost double that of White people.

Is this because their skin is darker, or because of economic status, education, and so on? do poor uneducated white people have the same problem?

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**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2011, 8:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jack-davis-finds-a-way-to-kill-two-birds-with-one-stone/210102/15 "2011-03-15T08:58:12Z")

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meh, with society the way it is, those “inner-city” folks would probably deny the opportunity and instead just continue on gang and welfare money. If they wanted those crappy jobs they would already have taken them. Shitty $500 cars are all over the place for transportation.

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**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2011, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jack-davis-finds-a-way-to-kill-two-birds-with-one-stone/210102/16 "2011-03-15T09:16:38Z")

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I can’t argue with the logic.

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> [@boardjnky4](#):
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> meh, with society the way it is, those “inner-city” folks would probably deny the opportunity and instead just continue on gang and welfare money. If they wanted those crappy jobs they would already have taken them. Shitty $500 cars are all over the place for transportation.

Hard to keep up your street cred when you are being bussed to the farm to pick crops by the white man.

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**Author:** ![Freek](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/freek/32/7357_2.png) [@Freek](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Freek)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2011, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jack-davis-finds-a-way-to-kill-two-birds-with-one-stone/210102/17 "2011-03-15T09:27:10Z")

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> [@Fry](#):
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> The Buffalo News makes MSNBC look conservative. I can’t wait for that paper to go under. Their “journalism” doesn’t deserve to exist.
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> That being said, bussing the unemployed from their homes to a place where they can earn a living with zero training required sounds solid to me. They should do it with the kids at the juvy detention center. The fresh air and hard work will be a hell of a lot more rehabilitating than confining them to jail.
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> And how the hell did this thread reach 12 posts without afrank’s thing going off?

What ever happened to forced labor in prisons? That should really come back. Imagine if prisons actually started turning a profit. God forbid people might actually not want to go there any more.

> [@theblue](#):
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> Is this because their skin is darker, or because of economic status, education, and so on? do poor uneducated white people have the same problem?

Skin color has less to do with all of this it than the cultural, socioeconomic, and educational back ground does.

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**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2011, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jack-davis-finds-a-way-to-kill-two-birds-with-one-stone/210102/18 "2011-03-15T09:33:53Z")

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> [@Freek](#):
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> Skin color has less to do with all of this it than the cultural, socioeconomic, and educational back ground does.

Then why was skin color used to identify the targeted group of people.

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**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2011, 9:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jack-davis-finds-a-way-to-kill-two-birds-with-one-stone/210102/19 "2011-03-15T09:47:14Z")

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> [@boardjnky4](#):
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> Then why was skin color used to identify the targeted group of people.

Simply a statistic.

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**Author:** ![Afrank45](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/afrank45/32/5021_2.png) [@Afrank45](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Afrank45)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2011, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jack-davis-finds-a-way-to-kill-two-birds-with-one-stone/210102/20 "2011-03-15T09:51:16Z")

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> [@Fry](#):
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> That being said, bussing the unemployed from their homes to a place where they can earn a living with zero training required sounds solid to me. They should do it with the kids at the juvy detention center. The fresh air and hard work will be a hell of a lot more rehabilitating than confining them to jail.
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> And how the hell did this thread reach 12 posts without afrank’s thing going off?

:dunno: Im getting to old to argue with some of the dummies on here.

although i must say ive watched the karter saga from the sidelines, and for a guy who was bitching about respect he comes on here and says we should napalm the ghetto…pot meet kettle…

Carry on gentlemen

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