# Japan hit by massive 8.8 magnitude earthquake

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**Created:** [March 10, 2011, 11:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/japan-hit-by-massive-8-8-magnitude-earthquake/257296 "2011-03-10T23:16:59Z")
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### Author: ![OsoiNA6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/osoina6/32/6301_2.png) [@OsoiNA6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OsoiNA6)
#### Post date: [March 17, 2011, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/japan-hit-by-massive-8-8-magnitude-earthquake/257296/372 "2011-03-17T11:35:29Z")

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> [@remote car starters... where to go?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/remote-car-starters-where-to-go/40351/16):
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> Insane. Japanese work ethic has always been impressive.
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> I think I read stories about Japanese men getting up and putting a suit on even though they were laid off or fired from their jobs so not to disgrace the family. Or something of that nature. Sorry if I misconstrued it.

Nah, that has likely happened before, I’ve heard of something similar. Basically, sitting at home doing jack $hit is way way frowned upon. Another quick story- this guy I know came to the US for a work assignment. He comes in the first day, wonders why everyone takes off by 5:30 PM. He’s home by 6 PM, and his wife is like “hey what are you doing here is this your day off?” and he has to sheepishly admit “well there’s no one left at the office.”

> [@For all you snowmobilers...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/for-all-you-snowmobilers/40359/11):
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> os glad your family is ok

Thanks.

> [@Buffalo haters step inside.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/buffalo-haters-step-inside/40383/2):
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> Rollin deep with your crew, ya buddy
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> Question:
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> In all the diagrams of these reactors, I don’t see the actual power generation part. Is that located in another building?

Ya buddy… Turbine and Generator would be in another building. For a nuke plant, the reactor creates the heat to bring the circulating water in the system to boiling. Similar to a steam power plant (where say a coal-fired boiler is the steam generator), there is a multiple stage axial flow turbine that the steam then expands through. The turbine rotor is coupled to a generator and as it turns electricity is generated. There is a lot of other auxiliary equipment but that’s the general layout.

> [@Fs: 97 talon tsi awd 2GB 3500$- SOLD](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-97-talon-tsi-awd-2gb-3500-sold/40120/46):
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> From what I’ve always gathered, it’s really just a massive steam engine. The heated water powers turbines. I could be completely off.

See above.

> [@remote car starters... where to go?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/remote-car-starters-where-to-go/40351/22):
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> The US is urging Private Americans in Japan to leave the country and is providing charters/flights out of Japan. One of the towns there doing this for is Nagoya which is where my friend Dave lives. They fear that if there is any more severe radiation leaks from the plant that the winds could carry it south.
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> I know my friend Dave won’t leave but wish he would just in case

Nagoya is like 250 miles from where the reactors are. Not that close, but not that far I guess. It’s southwest of the damaged site.

> [@KrazyKid"](#):
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> Every shitty ass business plans for disasters but since it cost money to plan for the unexpected, IE not being utilized at the moment… it seems like pissing money away uselessly. Therefore the emergency and disaster preparation and planing is usually halfassed and under budgeted. Or worse CEO’s know they wont live for ever and say FUCK it, money in my pocket, fuck my kids, and their kids, and their kids I wont be around.
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> Building a shelter around the generators, with a ducted fresh air supply and exhaust system. Think 4wd snorkel kits for the intake and same for the exhaust… running out of the water tight housing 60 feet in the air with a J bend so rain doesn’t get forced in. or something to that nature. Think about heat suppression inside there and work that out.
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> Nahh fuck it that costs too much put a CATc175 on a concrete pad a few hundred feet away and call it a day that’s cheaper and might work.
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> Real life lesson, H0TWheels knows about too. Backup generator is on site. Hasnt had to be used thankfully for the company yet. One day they got the bright idea to take a look at it. IRC it had NO OIL or something to that effect! lol, Who would have thought about periodic testing and maintenance right?

Japan is extremely conservative in terms of planning and countermeasures, not to mention upkeep and outage / inspection planning. I can tell you that here in the States utilities are fine with opening up say, a turbine every 8 or 10 years. In Japan such inspections are done usually every 2 years. What tends to happen is units here are opened up prior to their “scheduled” inspection because of something else in the plant that gets screwed up resulting in a forced outage.

Have there been issues with utilities in Japan not recording inspections properly, etc? Yeah of course. But for each incident / failed reporting / etc that has happened there, I’m sure it’s happened here (and other sites in other countries). Or worse, it wasn’t even verified. I guess my point is the design culture is so conservative there that budget is usually secondary to safety.

Cost per kW for generation in Japan is significantly higher than in the US, yet maintenance supervisors and the plant will still have outage inspections every two years, as opposed to being cowboys running the plant at elevated temperature and pressure with questionable steam purity for five or more years going “Yee hah” as the dollars pour in…

Depending on how big the plant is, one day of lost generation could be $700k here. So figure $1M a day in Japan as a conservative estimate. Yet inspection outages there are twice as frequent and usually last twice as long. Cost is definitely not a consideration.

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