# JAYJAY: where yaz at (((((s4))))) **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [March 1, 2008, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jayjay-where-yaz-at-s4/235857 "2008-03-01T10:26:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![votblindub](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/votblindub/32/6280_2.png) [@votblindub](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/votblindub)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jayjay-where-yaz-at-s4/235857/81 "2008-03-05T11:15:07Z")
> [@Mk4 30R](#): > > a “stage 2” S4 is NOT making 400AWHP. no way, no how. you realize whats involved with stage 2 upgrades… chip, exhaust, downpipes…to make 400awhp from an S4, you have to be k04’ed and usually on race gas. most pump gas APR stage 3, AWE stage 3, VAST stage 3, ASP stage 3 make high 300awhp… anything more usually they run the RS6/RS4 hybrid k04’s which outflow standard RS4 (k04-25/26) turbos. start adding to that RS4 cams, or standard 2.8 V6 heads, and very agressive tuning youll push 500 or more…packaging is the main downfall the the B5 platform. but ofcourse now you have guys coming out with GT25R, GT28RS, GT2871R kits for these things and with proper tuning will push the power envelope very high on these cars.I highly doubt a 400AWHP stage 2, sorry, he might be adding the CHP claims up to 400at the crank… the average stage 2 S4 makes high 200’s at the wheels, and with a good driver(good clutch too), and pump gas will run low 13s, to high 12s dependant on weather and track conditions so mine’s a stage 2? ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jayjay-where-yaz-at-s4/235857/82 "2008-03-05T11:33:43Z")
if you are chipped(apr,unitronic,giac,revo) with a full exhaust thats the average stage 2 setup. stage 2+ is intercoolers, and obviously you know what the stage 3 kits are ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jayjay-where-yaz-at-s4/235857/83 "2008-03-05T11:35:48Z")
Considering K20’s history maybe this S4 has spray + stage 2 ---
**Author:** ![GranMassaX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/granmassax/32/6299_2.png) [@GranMassaX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GranMassaX)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jayjay-where-yaz-at-s4/235857/84 "2008-03-05T11:38:13Z")
stage 4 S4 is a k20 swap ---
**Author:** ![tdi\_logik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tdi_logik/32/6310_2.png) [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jayjay-where-yaz-at-s4/235857/85 "2008-03-05T11:39:46Z")
> [@GranMassaX](#): > > stage 4 S4 is a k20 swap HAHAHA ---
**Author:** ![2003gtiTURBO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/7c8e57/32.png) [@2003gtiTURBO](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2003gtiTURBO)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jayjay-where-yaz-at-s4/235857/86 "2008-03-05T11:59:33Z")
> [@GranMassaX](#): > > stage 4 S4 is a k20 swap I am surprised you guys didn’t already know this :idiots ---
**Author:** ![votblindub](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/votblindub/32/6280_2.png) [@votblindub](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/votblindub)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jayjay-where-yaz-at-s4/235857/87 "2008-03-05T12:01:33Z")
> [@Mk4 30R](#): > > if you are chipped(apr,unitronic,giac,revo) with a full exhaust thats the average stage 2 setup. stage 2+ is intercoolers, and obviously you know what the stage 3 kits are yea, i have the APR chip, both diverter valves changed and Dave built me a full turboback exhaust. How much of a difference would intercoolers make? I saw some nice ones for like ~3K, but idk if that merits the gain in HP. If i’ll get like 10 more, I may as well forget it. ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jayjay-where-yaz-at-s4/235857/88 "2008-03-05T12:27:23Z")
use side mounts… the APR ones from the RS4 if they would fit are probably your best bet… the AWE intercoolers are crazy coin… but with a chip and exhaust your stock ones are fine. ---
**Author:** ![votblindub](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/votblindub/32/6280_2.png) [@votblindub](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/votblindub)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jayjay-where-yaz-at-s4/235857/89 "2008-03-05T12:30:18Z")
if dyno wasnt 120 bones an hour, id love to go get a pull or two so i have a number. cuz im curious myself now to see what it does at the wheel. ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jayjay-where-yaz-at-s4/235857/90 "2008-03-05T12:35:50Z")
stock is around 190awhp. generally with the mods you have the 2.7Ts put down 270-280awhp… and youre a 6speed correct? not a SWEET tip-tragic. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jayjay-where-yaz-at-s4/235857/91 "2008-03-05T12:36:45Z")
Listen to Celtic boy and Mk4 30R WTF stage am I? :nono ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jayjay-where-yaz-at-s4/235857/92 "2008-03-05T12:37:53Z")
and if you can find an AWD dyno, you can get 2-3pulls with no AFR usually around 75$ but i dont know how dyno places are in this region ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 12:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jayjay-where-yaz-at-s4/235857/93 "2008-03-05T12:39:55Z")
> [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > Listen to Celtic boy and Mk4 30R > > WTF stage am I? :nono ??? i dont know who this celticboy is, but i actually know what im talking about with VW/audi modding. ---
**Author:** ![votblindub](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/votblindub/32/6280_2.png) [@votblindub](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/votblindub)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jayjay-where-yaz-at-s4/235857/94 "2008-03-05T12:41:17Z")
> [@Mk4 30R](#): > > stock is around 190awhp. generally with the mods you have the 2.7Ts put down 270-280awhp… and youre a 6speed correct? not a SWEET tip-tragic. tip-tragic. i couldnt find the 6sp at the time that was in the shape this is with the amount of miles. it’s not a big deal though, i dont race, so its ok. Shawn, any place you’d recommend to go do a couple of pulls locally? ---
**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jayjay-where-yaz-at-s4/235857/95 "2008-03-05T12:49:07Z")
Cole’s S4 which was completely stock at the time dyno’d 178whp on KTR’s Dyno Dynamics dyno. Less than impressive as my car does around that stock on a Mustang dyno. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jayjay-where-yaz-at-s4/235857/96 "2008-03-05T12:50:29Z")
> [@Mk4 30R](#): > > ??? i dont know who this celticboy is, but i actually know what im talking about with VW/audi modding. Which is why I said for people to listen to you. :tong > [@votblindub](#): > > Shawn, any place you’d recommend to go do a couple of pulls locally? Not locally. ☹ Moon is probably the closest. Stay away from the common notion that DynoDynamics reads low and DynoJet reads high (Impossible to make that assumption using a generalization) and find a place that’s repeatable and whose output is accurate with other cars and the track. ---
**Author:** ![GranMassaX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/granmassax/32/6299_2.png) [@GranMassaX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GranMassaX)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jayjay-where-yaz-at-s4/235857/97 "2008-03-05T12:51:23Z")
> [@votblindub](#): > > tip-tragic. i couldnt find the 6sp at the time that was in the shape this is with the amount of miles. it’s not a big deal though, i dont race, so its ok. > Shawn, any place you’d recommend to go do a couple of pulls locally? moon performance, lake placid ---
**Author:** ![Criscone24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7993a0/32.png) [@Criscone24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Criscone24)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jayjay-where-yaz-at-s4/235857/98 "2008-03-05T12:57:20Z")
synapse should get an awd dyno, im sure its easiar said than done($$ wise) but seems to be a big awd market around here that would benefit, maybe not. ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jayjay-where-yaz-at-s4/235857/99 "2008-03-05T13:00:35Z")
Word, I’d like to go back this spring, anything in the works for a dyno day? ---
**Author:** ![Celtic1982citleC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/celtic1982citlec/32/6323_2.png) [@Celtic1982citleC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Celtic1982citleC)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jayjay-where-yaz-at-s4/235857/100 "2008-03-05T13:04:04Z")
> [@votblindub](#): > > Celtic1982citleC or BoxerSix maybe you two know. Is there any real significant difference between Jay’s motor (i think his is '01) and mine ('03)? Comparing both of those at OEM settings There are very few differences between the physical motors of your 2.7 and the 2.7 from the S4. The head design is the same although the cam grind is slightly different as the S4 is more aggressive. Block is the same. Most of the differences are in the mapping of the ECU. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jayjay-where-yaz-at-s4/235857.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jayjay-where-yaz-at-s4/235857.md?page=6)