# jdm surprise #2 - need your help pn this one guys

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**Category:** SON240sx Automotive\
**Created:** [November 5, 2007, 6:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jdm-surprise-2-need-your-help-pn-this-one-guys/110781 "2007-11-05T06:18:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![matty](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/matty/32/5043_2.png) [@matty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/matty)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2007, 6:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jdm-surprise-2-need-your-help-pn-this-one-guys/110781/1 "2007-11-05T06:18:47Z")

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ok so i popped off the valve cover today and discoverd the following… (this is only what i can see from visual inspection)

aftermarket adjustable cam gears - unknown  
270 11.5 instake camshaft - unknown  
270 12.5 exhaust camshaft - unknown (tomei makes 270 in and ex in that lift)

appear to be aftemarket rocke arms - #3 and 4 popped off on the exhaust side - will be comparing them to oem units soon

appear to be aftermarket valve springs - unknown (assuming Ti since most are made of that) - will be comparing them to oem units soon

rocker arm stoppers - unknown - look exactly like my old s13 sr20det tomei’s

so with such high lift high duration cams, im expecting a ported and polished head and maybe lash killer kit for a solid lifter conversion, no?

and im expecting pistons and rods in the bottom end for sure and some kind of aftermarket head studs as well

this is without a doubt a 8000 - 9000 rpm head

anyone conquer?

the motor will not be sold whole now since it may be damaged, ill be tearing it down to find out if its only the two rocker arms and nothing more

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**Author:** ![matty](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/matty/32/5043_2.png) [@matty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/matty)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2007, 5:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jdm-surprise-2-need-your-help-pn-this-one-guys/110781/2 "2007-11-06T05:40:18Z")

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115 views, not one post

anybody?

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**Author:** ![Fobwall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7ea924/32.png) [@Fobwall](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fobwall)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2007, 5:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jdm-surprise-2-need-your-help-pn-this-one-guys/110781/3 "2007-11-06T05:59:33Z")

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Well it is hard to say… you’re probably better off asking this on a forum like nico or zilvia… definitely not son.

Put it this way too, the “nicer” the stuff seems, the more expensive it’ll be for people who are interested. And this is SON.

You can compute the rest.

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**Author:** ![Cal](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cal/32/5505_2.png) [@Cal](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cal)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2007, 6:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jdm-surprise-2-need-your-help-pn-this-one-guys/110781/4 "2007-11-06T06:25:00Z")

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So let me get this straight.

You paid alot of money for a clip without knowing what it contained? Did you not know it had a built engine? The tranny I can see being a surprise, but not this.

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**Author:** ![matty](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/matty/32/5043_2.png) [@matty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/matty)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2007, 6:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jdm-surprise-2-need-your-help-pn-this-one-guys/110781/5 "2007-11-06T06:47:01Z")

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bult engine was also not known (at the time of pruchase)

that was discovered when we put the pieces together when it arrived

from the get go (when the clip was in my possession) we knew it was built, just not with what parts or how built (the extent of it)

At time of purchase i assumed this was a stock s14 sr20det with maybe afew things like cams and shit - which still fetches a price that covers nearly half my costs

the only things i knew before the clipped arrived was what i could see with my own eyes and what the sellers had told me throgh questions and answers

they compression tested it for me and all numbers checke dout fine. but its a good thing i opened it up and saw the rocker arms before any sort of motor firing took place

with the parts i knew were on the clip, i knew the money was there and then some, but as i kept tearing it down we found more and more

wise investment in my books, i’de do is again in a heartbeat  
ofcourse im going to be stuck with some parts, but thats alright

edit: the sellrs overlooked a tonne of things, they didnt even know it was an s15 motor, they advertised it as an s14  
the failed to mention alot of things in theire list of whats on this clip because they didnt take the time to invesitgate properly

they only had a brief list of things that could be seen quite easily and thne the words “comes with lots of exra goodies”

i did the research and then took the risk, and so afr its paying off in dividends

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**Author:** ![matty](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/matty/32/5043_2.png) [@matty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/matty)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2007, 7:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jdm-surprise-2-need-your-help-pn-this-one-guys/110781/6 "2007-11-06T07:19:45Z")

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now that that should clear things up for you

back to my question at hand

and marky, your right, ill have to post most shit stateside  
but if it turns out just to be the rocker arms, i may sell it compete as a built motor for a price lower then any competition  
it wont be 100% complete like turbo and shit, so we’ll see

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2007, 1:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jdm-surprise-2-need-your-help-pn-this-one-guys/110781/7 "2007-11-06T13:36:52Z")

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how much did you pay for the entire clip if you dont mind me asking?

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**Author:** ![matty](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/matty/32/5043_2.png) [@matty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/matty)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2007, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jdm-surprise-2-need-your-help-pn-this-one-guys/110781/8 "2007-11-06T14:02:11Z")

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tht info is for me and a few others  
sorry

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**Author:** ![matty](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/matty/32/5043_2.png) [@matty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/matty)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2007, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jdm-surprise-2-need-your-help-pn-this-one-guys/110781/9 "2007-11-06T14:07:22Z")

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ill tell you what  
you come buy a part from me and ill tell you haha

but yeah, that answer is a no go

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**Author:** ![Fobwall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7ea924/32.png) [@Fobwall](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fobwall)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2007, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jdm-surprise-2-need-your-help-pn-this-one-guys/110781/10 "2007-11-06T14:44:46Z")

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He got it for free. He woke up one day and it was in his garage.

If life was like that, you wouldn’t need a Visa.

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**Author:** ![matty](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/matty/32/5043_2.png) [@matty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/matty)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2007, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jdm-surprise-2-need-your-help-pn-this-one-guys/110781/11 "2007-11-06T14:46:19Z")

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marks right

i prayed really hard to the jdm gods

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**Author:** ![Ko-San](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Ko-San](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ko-San)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2007, 3:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jdm-surprise-2-need-your-help-pn-this-one-guys/110781/12 "2007-11-06T15:30:34Z")

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> [@What did you wear to work today](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-did-you-wear-to-work-today/14797/9):
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> He got it for free. He woke up one day and it was in his garage.
> 
> If life was like that, you wouldn’t need a Visa.

for everything else theres mastercard =D

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**Author:** ![matty](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/matty/32/5043_2.png) [@matty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/matty)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2007, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jdm-surprise-2-need-your-help-pn-this-one-guys/110781/13 "2007-11-06T16:03:43Z")

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^^^^

correct, my maxxed out mastercard haha

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**Post date:** [November 7, 2007, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jdm-surprise-2-need-your-help-pn-this-one-guys/110781/14 "2007-11-07T17:17:42Z")

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If it helps you any, tomei has the word “tomei” casted right into the camshaft.

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**Author:** ![mrsynister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/858c86/32.png) [@mrsynister](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mrsynister)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2007, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jdm-surprise-2-need-your-help-pn-this-one-guys/110781/15 "2007-11-08T07:32:56Z")

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matty, i would have to come down and see the motor to identify the parts…

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**Author:** ![matty](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/matty/32/5043_2.png) [@matty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/matty)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2007, 2:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jdm-surprise-2-need-your-help-pn-this-one-guys/110781/16 "2007-11-08T14:49:10Z")

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we’ll have a look see when you grab your oil cooler

later jo

and gus, check out my for sale threads

prices coming down
