# Jeremiah is a stand up person-NOT!

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremiah-is-a-stand-up-person-not/238771>\
**Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\
**Created:** [September 6, 2008, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremiah-is-a-stand-up-person-not/238771 "2008-09-06T14:12:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![mcflurry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mcflurry/32/6468_2.png) [@mcflurry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mcflurry)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremiah-is-a-stand-up-person-not/238771/21 "2008-09-06T15:22:39Z")

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i 10000% agree with mk4 theres no need for the shit

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**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremiah-is-a-stand-up-person-not/238771/22 "2008-09-06T15:23:01Z")

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> [@Cliff](#):
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> When everyone was laughing at him no one knew what the fuck was wrong with the car. It coulda’ had a blown motor. You didn’t find out what was wrong with the car until Arod told everyone.
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> And keep the 518carscene vs travis off the shift forums? Jeremiah made a comment, it was edited by a mod. Jeremiah PM’d Travis and Travis then brought it to the publics eyes. You all then started bitching about Jeremiah. You sir, are a fucking hypocrite.

i was no where near that green car, nor do i care im not a honda guy, im not a street racer, so it doesnt bother me one bit. and ILL SAY IT AGAIN, I DONT KNOW WHATS GOING ON BETWEEN HIM AND TRAVIS, I ODNT KNOW OF PRIOR CONVERSATIONS, OR COMMENTS MADE ALL I SAW WAS THE PM TRAVIS POSTED, SO HOW AM I A HYPOCRITE FOR THAT? IM JUST REPORTING ON WHAT I SEE. GET OVER YOURSELF

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**Author:** ![Cliff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@Cliff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cliff)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremiah-is-a-stand-up-person-not/238771/23 "2008-09-06T15:25:53Z")

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> [@Mk4 30R](#):
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> i was no where near that green car, nor do i care im not a honda guy, im not a street racer, so it doesnt bother me one bit. and ILL SAY IT AGAIN, I DONT KNOW WHATS GOING ON BETWEEN HIM AND TRAVIS, I ODNT KNOW OF PRIOR CONVERSATIONS, OR COMMENTS MADE ALL I SAW WAS THE PM TRAVIS POSTED, SO HOW AM I A HYPOCRITE FOR THAT? IM JUST REPORTING ON WHAT I SEE. GET OVER YOURSELF

You’re a hypocrite because you told _ME_ to keep the 518carscene vs travis shit to myself. Who brought the PM forth? Travis did. He brought it to the publics eye. So you should be telling Travis to keep it to himself, not me.

And I’m not saying “YOU” specifically about the teal civic. I’m saying several members on this forum. No one had any problem bashing that car at the time of their misfortune. And no one knew it was a charge pipe until Arod brought it up. It’s not different… it’s the same thing, just on a larger, more expensive scale.

I’ll go ahead and continue to be the douchebag. It’s called “DARWIN.” Looks like he won again.

Edit: okay, maybe I shouldn’t have called you a hypocrite. But I didn’t wanna call you a cunt for calling me a douche bag lol.

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**Author:** ![mcflurry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mcflurry/32/6468_2.png) [@mcflurry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mcflurry)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremiah-is-a-stand-up-person-not/238771/24 "2008-09-06T15:26:25Z")

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and i wasnt there for the teal hatch blowin up nor do i care like mk4 im not a honda i like my domestics

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**Author:** ![Cliff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@Cliff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cliff)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremiah-is-a-stand-up-person-not/238771/25 "2008-09-06T15:29:48Z")

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> [@mcflurry](#):
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> and i wasnt there for the teal hatch blowin up nor do i care like mk4 im not a honda i like my domestics

It’s got nothing to do with not like Honda’s, or liking domestics or any of that. It’s the fact that people ragged on him and had no idea what was wrong with his car. People said they wished it was blown up. No one knew it was a charge pipe until Arod said so.

Did a single person say anything like “dude, dont make fun of his car cmon.” No. Cause the kid is a douche. Well, to Jeremiah… Travis is a douche. Thats my point.

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**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 3:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremiah-is-a-stand-up-person-not/238771/26 "2008-09-06T15:30:25Z")

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> [@Cliff](#):
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> You’re a hypocrite because you told _ME_ to keep the 518carscene vs travis shit to myself. Who brought the PM forth? Travis did. He brought it to the publics eye. So you should be telling Travis to keep it to himself, not me.
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> And I’m not saying “YOU” specifically about the teal civic. I’m saying several members on this forum. No one had any problem bashing that car at the time of their misfortune. And no one knew it was a charge pipe until Arod brought it up. It’s not different… it’s the same thing, just on a larger, more expensive scale.
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> I’ll go ahead and continue to be the douchebag. It’s called “DARWIN.” Looks like he won again.
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> Edit: okay, maybe I shouldn’t have called you a hypocrite. But I didn’t wanna call you a cunt for calling me a douche bag lol.

its all heresay man, just let things go… and that teal hatch… even if the rod windowed the block, hes still in a better situation than travis. his car burned to the ground. have some remorse you know, even if you dont like the guy, give some sympathy. thats alot of time and money lost for unknown reasons. lighten up. its an eye opener for alot of people.

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**Author:** ![mcflurry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mcflurry/32/6468_2.png) [@mcflurry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mcflurry)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremiah-is-a-stand-up-person-not/238771/27 "2008-09-06T15:32:57Z")

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it really is an eye opener just someshit should be left alone not fucking draged on like this shit its bullshit the kid is in shambles right now…we have a clue but not 100% on what happened give the fuckin guy a god damn break

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**Author:** ![Cliff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@Cliff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cliff)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremiah-is-a-stand-up-person-not/238771/28 "2008-09-06T15:35:21Z")

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> [@Mk4 30R](#):
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> its all heresay man, just let things go… and that teal hatch… even if the rod windowed the block, hes still in a better situation than travis. his car burned to the ground. have some remorse you know, even if you dont like the guy, give some sympathy. thats alot of time and money lost for unknown reasons. lighten up. its an eye opener for alot of people.

I’m sorry… I can not find remorse for this situation. Street racing was involved. Speeds of 135mph… with no insurance. “Sorry your car burned.”

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**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremiah-is-a-stand-up-person-not/238771/29 "2008-09-06T15:42:29Z")

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> [@Cliff](#):
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> I’m sorry… I can not find remorse for this situation. Street racing was involved. Speeds of 135mph… with no insurance. “Sorry your car burned.”

i dont know the details, i saw the car, thats enough. but youre attitude is terrible man you act like youve never commited the act of street racing. if this happened to you( and you cant say i would never happen, because you dont know) how would you feel if people were saying what you are saying? honestly man, its better to say nothing at all then to respond to the situation the way you have.

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**Author:** ![mcflurry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mcflurry/32/6468_2.png) [@mcflurry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mcflurry)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremiah-is-a-stand-up-person-not/238771/30 "2008-09-06T15:44:12Z")

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this is just becomin a fuckin blame this blame that and just to let u all know if a cop reads this and writes tix ill be the one gettin em so cliff shut ur mouth

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**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremiah-is-a-stand-up-person-not/238771/31 "2008-09-06T15:45:48Z")

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> [@mcflurry](#):
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> this is just becomin a fuckin blame this blame that and just to let u all know if a cop reads this and writes tix ill be the one gettin em so cliff shut ur mouth

sorry had to do it…  
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**Author:** ![mcflurry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mcflurry/32/6468_2.png) [@mcflurry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mcflurry)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremiah-is-a-stand-up-person-not/238771/32 "2008-09-06T15:46:43Z")

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its ok dude i have no probs with u weve had our run ins ur a very stand up guy

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**Author:** ![Cliff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@Cliff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cliff)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremiah-is-a-stand-up-person-not/238771/33 "2008-09-06T15:47:42Z")

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> [@Mk4 30R](#):
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> i dont know the details, i saw the car, thats enough. but youre attitude is terrible man you act like youve never commited the act of street racing. if this happened to you( and you cant say i would never happen, because you dont know) how would you feel if people were saying what you are saying? honestly man, its better to say nothing at all then to respond to the situation the way you have.

…but I’ve never driven without insurance and I’ve never driven 135mph on a public road. I don’t care how fast my car is in a straight line, so no… I don’t street race.

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**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 3:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremiah-is-a-stand-up-person-not/238771/34 "2008-09-06T15:51:09Z")

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> [@Cliff](#):
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> …but I’ve never driven without insurance and I’ve never driven 135mph on a public road. I don’t care how fast my car is in a straight line, so no… I don’t street race.

doesnt matter man, even driving too fast around a corner, same basic idea you know. whats illegal is illegal. any way you cut it. ive never driven with no insurance either, doing 135 is fast, many people in the world are guilty of excessive speed, its over double the speed limit, now say you take backroad turns fast, if the posted limit on a corner is 25mph and you take your Sick handleing car through the turn at 50-55 which is easily done on a 25mph sweeper… youve just commited the same act, albeit to a lesser extent where the laws of physics would be easier on you if you were to lose control… same idea

oh and illegal speed contest can happen on a corner too, trying to get from point a to b faster right?  
and speeding in a turn is still reckless driving, if you have a passenger, reckless endangerment, speeding… many things… and to add if its a blind corner, even if youre familiar with it, the on coming car may not be… food for thought.

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**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremiah-is-a-stand-up-person-not/238771/35 "2008-09-06T16:11:27Z")

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> [@Cliff](#):
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> I’m sorry… I can not find remorse for this situation. Street racing was involved. Speeds of 135mph… with no insurance. “Sorry your car burned.”

dude what the fuck??

This could have happened at any given point in time whether it was a speed contest or not. Their was obv. something wrong to begin with, before the contest was even held…it just happened at the given point in time. Dont need to fucking announce it…what the fuck

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**Author:** ![Cliff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@Cliff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cliff)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremiah-is-a-stand-up-person-not/238771/36 "2008-09-06T16:12:07Z")

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> [@SSmokinn SS](#):
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> dude what the fuck??
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> This could have happened at any given point in time whether it was a speed contest or not. Their was obv. something wrong to begin with, before the contest was even held…it just happened at the given point in time. Dont need to fucking announce it…what the fuck

I didn’t announce it. Someone else did, I just reiterated it.

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**Author:** ![Cliff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@Cliff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cliff)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 4:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremiah-is-a-stand-up-person-not/238771/37 "2008-09-06T16:22:51Z")

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> [@Mk4 30R](#):
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> doesnt matter man, even driving too fast around a corner, same basic idea you know. whats illegal is illegal. any way you cut it. ive never driven with no insurance either, doing 135 is fast, many people in the world are guilty of excessive speed, its over double the speed limit, now say you take backroad turns fast, if the posted limit on a corner is 25mph and you take your Sick handleing car through the turn at 50-55 which is easily done on a 25mph sweeper… youve just commited the same act, albeit to a lesser extent where the laws of physics would be easier on you if you were to lose control… same idea
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> oh and illegal speed contest can happen on a corner too, trying to get from point a to b faster right?  
> and speeding in a turn is still reckless driving, if you have a passenger, reckless endangerment, speeding… many things… and to add if its a blind corner, even if youre familiar with it, the on coming car may not be… food for thought.

All valid points. Trust me, I was just going to keep my mouth shut on this whole entire topic. You brought up a great point that there’s just sometimes when you should just not say anything. Thats exactly what I was going to do… until everyone sat there sayin shit about Jeremiah.

So when people brought shit up, I went ahead and spoke my opinion and gave my two cents. Okay, great… no one agrees with it. But this is a public forum where its encouraged to speak your mind. If this happened to anyone else I’d easily throw 200+ their way. But the fact is, Travis was nothing but a douchebag to nearly everyone on this forum. He bench raced, treated everyone like shit, and thought his car was a rocketship. I’ve got no problem helping. But when you tell a certain amount of people to fuck themselves on a regular basis… bridges are going to be burned, hardships are going to be formed. Sometimes it just happens quicker for other people.

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**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremiah-is-a-stand-up-person-not/238771/38 "2008-09-06T16:25:55Z")

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> [@Cliff](#):
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> I didn’t announce it. Someone else did, I just reiterated it.

first of all i didnt know the car didnt have insurance on it till it lit up or i wouldnt have taken the car…second of all the car burned up not blew a motor there was three people in the car that could of gotten killed was it stupid yea ,it was a lesson learned it opened my eyes so if ya dont like him dont say shit, fuck you ya heartless pric trav and i dont always get along but fuck dude that car was his life

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**Author:** ![91teg](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91teg/32/6304_2.png) [@91teg](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91teg)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremiah-is-a-stand-up-person-not/238771/39 "2008-09-06T17:17:26Z")

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> [@mcflurry](#):
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> and i wasnt there for the teal hatch blowin up nor do i care like mk4 im not a honda i like my domestics

Are you kidding me right now???..you dont know what you like…if i remember you wanted god knows how many cars…i believe i recieved an IM from you asking me if i knew anyone selling a honda/acura…steve your a good guy ive known you for a while but you seem to be a follower latly

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**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremiah-is-a-stand-up-person-not/238771/40 "2008-09-06T17:34:47Z")

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The comments made by Jeremiah are just plain stupid. Travis is already suffering enough without his input.

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