# Jeremy Clarkson.......on history?

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**Created:** [March 1, 2009, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremy-clarkson-on-history/63783 "2009-03-01T10:22:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![SoloIIscoob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/35a633/32.png) [@SoloIIscoob](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SoloIIscoob)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremy-clarkson-on-history/63783/1 "2009-03-01T10:22:37Z")

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i guess the brits. dont realize we saved their ass in WWII…  
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgF0R4dhUqk&feature=rec-HM-rn](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgF0R4dhUqk&feature=rec-HM-rn)  
part 1/6  
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5q8eU9ku2Y](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5q8eU9ku2Y)  
part 2/6  
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL1kwL7SK1A](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL1kwL7SK1A)  
part 3/6  
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBj9K03ygU0](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBj9K03ygU0)  
part 4/6  
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzHB2dyKfSM](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzHB2dyKfSM)  
part 5/6  
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBWaxyRdW80](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBWaxyRdW80)  
part 6/6

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**Author:** ![khoveraki](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/khoveraki/32/5131_2.png) [@khoveraki](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/khoveraki)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremy-clarkson-on-history/63783/2 "2009-03-01T11:38:11Z")

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+1, it’s really good

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**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremy-clarkson-on-history/63783/3 "2009-03-01T11:39:37Z")

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that was a fantastic documentary!

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**Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremy-clarkson-on-history/63783/4 "2009-03-01T12:40:45Z")

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Wow, very good.

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**Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremy-clarkson-on-history/63783/5 "2009-03-01T13:31:08Z")

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> and he was remarking that it was no good ramming a stout casoon like that with a flimsy ship
> 
> at that moment, there was a bang

:lol:

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**Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremy-clarkson-on-history/63783/6 "2009-03-01T14:13:44Z")

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That was a great documentary! I enjoyed it and heck… learned something as well…

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**Author:** ![jt76](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jt76/32/5100_2.png) [@jt76](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jt76)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremy-clarkson-on-history/63783/7 "2009-03-01T14:41:20Z")

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> [@SoloIIscoob"](#):
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> i guess the brits. dont realize we saved their ass in WWII…  
> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgF0R4dhUqk&feature=rec-HM-rn](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgF0R4dhUqk&feature=rec-HM-rn)  
> part 1/6  
> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5q8eU9ku2Y](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5q8eU9ku2Y)  
> part 2/6  
> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL1kwL7SK1A](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL1kwL7SK1A)  
> part 3/6  
> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBj9K03ygU0](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBj9K03ygU0)  
> part 4/6  
> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzHB2dyKfSM](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzHB2dyKfSM)  
> part 5/6  
> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBWaxyRdW80](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBWaxyRdW80)  
> part 6/6

Excellent movie… The brits DID stand alone against Hitler for an entire year between the time France surrendered and Russia was attacked.

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**Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremy-clarkson-on-history/63783/8 "2009-03-01T15:29:22Z")

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> [@jt76](#):
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> Excellent movie… The brits DID stand alone against Hitler for an entire year between the time France surrendered and Russia was attacked.

do you have any idea how much equip./arms/“under the table” soldiers and personnel/and other forms of help we gave them. we gave them EVERYTHING we possibly could(short of declaring war ourselves) for an entire year:picard:

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**Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremy-clarkson-on-history/63783/9 "2009-03-01T15:36:04Z")

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> [@SoloIIscoob](#):
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> do you have any idea how much equip./arms/“under the table” soldiers and personnel/and other forms of help we gave them. we gave them EVERYTHING we possibly could(short of declaring war ourselves) for an entire year:picard:

i always picard the history majors with a clue…

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**Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremy-clarkson-on-history/63783/10 "2009-03-01T15:44:17Z")

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> [@SoloIIscoob](#):
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> do you have any idea how much equip./arms/“under the table” soldiers and personnel/and other forms of help we gave them. we gave them EVERYTHING we possibly could(short of declaring war ourselves) for an entire year:picard:

I am aware of the lend lease program, we gave the British old obsolete destroyers, shitty tanks, and WWI M1917 rifles which didnt even chamber their .303 cartridges. Our biggest contribution was food and raw materials and munitions manufactured here, as we also did in WWI… We gave them soldiers and personnel under the table? really??? hmmm…Besides the very few numbers of volunteers who fought in units such as the RAF Eagle squadrons i don’t see where we “gave them” soldiers and personnel. Please enlighten me. Fact still remains that Britain stood alone against Hitler by itself for a year when the German army looked to be unstoppable. Did you know that it was the GERMANS that declared war on US rather than us on them following Pearl Harbor? This country did not want to become involved in another European war after WWI. The vast majority of the American people believed that the US had entered the First World War, probably rightly so, to prop up the allied powers. Had they been defeated, the American banks would not have been repaid the huge war debts the Allies had racked up. I would LOVE to get into a debate on Military History with you.

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**Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 4:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremy-clarkson-on-history/63783/11 "2009-03-01T16:22:50Z")

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lol.  
jeebus take it personally, please.

well, just as with the Lafayette Escadrille in WWI, American Citizens had the choice to volunteer for groups like the Eagles or the Clayton Knight Committee, as long as they met the criteria(obviously) and would pass the processing and approval stages. by the time America formally declared war in Dec.'41 there were in excess of six thousand volunteers. This is for Europe alone, I am not even counting the Flying Tigers of the sino-jap. war who had also numbered in the thousands…

and GRANTED, we did not GIVE them our pilots/men, they still volunteered and were Americans fighting for the British/French/Chinese during WWII.

so dont take it so personally and dont have such an E-stiffy next time someone(just as you did) used a generalization on the internet.

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**Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremy-clarkson-on-history/63783/12 "2009-03-01T16:26:35Z")

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> [@GTRGurl](#):
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> That was a great documentary! I enjoyed it and heck… learned something as well…

+1 great find I liked it alot now only if clarkson could teach all of my college classes Id have a 4.0 lol.

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**Author:** ![jt76](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jt76/32/5100_2.png) [@jt76](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jt76)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremy-clarkson-on-history/63783/13 "2009-03-01T16:37:26Z")

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I didn’t take anything personally? You made an incorrect statement and then summed up mine with a picard. Lafayette Escridille huh… took you a while to respond, just enough time to hit up Wikipedia? 🙂

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**Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremy-clarkson-on-history/63783/14 "2009-03-01T16:39:02Z")

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Regardless, the USA would have been fucked as far as defeating the Germans if Britain would have fallen. And as a whole, Germany would have been very hard to beat if they had not started a war with the USSR. I think we can both agree on that.

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**Author:** ![SoloIIscoob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/35a633/32.png) [@SoloIIscoob](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SoloIIscoob)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremy-clarkson-on-history/63783/15 "2009-03-01T17:39:53Z")

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oh yea they lost 1/2 their man power in russia. and more of their mechanical power in russia than anywhere else.

no wiki. i read a lot of Oliver North. my family is/has been involved in the military at every generation…my brother flies predators in the USAF

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**Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremy-clarkson-on-history/63783/16 "2009-03-01T18:43:43Z")

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this thread is proof the picard emoticon needs to be removed permanently

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**Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 5:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremy-clarkson-on-history/63783/17 "2009-03-02T05:31:59Z")

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> [@khoveraki](#):
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> this thread is proof the picard emoticon needs to be removed permanently

:picard:

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**Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 9:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremy-clarkson-on-history/63783/18 "2009-03-02T09:14:15Z")

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lol…

I watched it earlier, great documentary. American history always gives America way too much credit in WW2… but then again, what country doesn’t play that game.

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**Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremy-clarkson-on-history/63783/19 "2009-03-02T11:02:03Z")

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That was fantastic, and simply amazing.

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**Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremy-clarkson-on-history/63783/20 "2009-03-02T11:20:27Z")

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> [@Minglor](#):
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> :picard:

:picard:

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