# Jeremy Clarkson Says Manual Transmission Is Dead

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**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [December 9, 2014, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremy-clarkson-says-manual-transmission-is-dead/271232 "2014-12-09T07:54:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![TrueBlue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/trueblue/32/7245_2.png) [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremy-clarkson-says-manual-transmission-is-dead/271232/21 "2014-12-09T10:19:21Z")

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There are so many sports car mfgs now that don’t even offer a stick in some of their vehicles, Porsche and Lambo off the top of my head. I’m positive my next vehicle will be an automatic of some variety.

That said, there will always be a market for purists and us older farts that want the control and connection that only manual transmissions provide. They ain’t dead yet.

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**Author:** ![drewster99](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drewster99/32/5468_2.png) [@drewster99](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drewster99)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremy-clarkson-says-manual-transmission-is-dead/271232/22 "2014-12-09T10:19:29Z")

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I honestly just don’t feel as safe driving an automatic. I feel like I usually just zone out and don’t pay attention to the road as much, while a manual basically forces me to. I’m completely uninterested in cars that don’t come with a stick.

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**Author:** ![King](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/king/32/7329_2.png) [@King](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/King)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremy-clarkson-says-manual-transmission-is-dead/271232/23 "2014-12-09T10:31:30Z")

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i wouldn’t go as far as saying my mind won’t change eventually…who knows - but as of now, i still would not purchase a non-manual car.

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> [@TrueBlue](#):
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> There are so many sports car mfgs now that don’t even offer a stick in some of their vehicles, Porsche and Lambo off the top of my head. I’m positive my next vehicle will be an automatic of some variety.
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> That said, there will always be a market for purists and us older farts that want the control and connection that only manual transmissions provide. They ain’t dead yet.

porsche eliminated the option on the GT3, yes. On their other cars you can still get a 6MT

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**Author:** ![1QIKZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1qikz/32/6112_2.png) [@1QIKZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1QIKZ)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremy-clarkson-says-manual-transmission-is-dead/271232/24 "2014-12-09T10:34:28Z")

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My truck would be manual if I disn’t have a plow on it. Love Rev matching / downshifting.

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**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremy-clarkson-says-manual-transmission-is-dead/271232/25 "2014-12-09T11:06:13Z")

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I think at this point the only thing holding me back from switching from DSG to a manual for my next daily driver is that my girlfriend wouldn’t be able to drive me home from parties when drunk.

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**Author:** ![EvoMR](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/evomr/32/7186_2.png) [@EvoMR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/EvoMR)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremy-clarkson-says-manual-transmission-is-dead/271232/26 "2014-12-09T11:35:20Z")

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Clarkson is sadly accurate on this. I enjoy my GTR (arguably the best dct car without an unlimited budget) despite it being a 2 pedal, but it’s definitely a drawback and it lacks the fun factor of pretty much any manual transmission out there.

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**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremy-clarkson-says-manual-transmission-is-dead/271232/27 "2014-12-09T11:37:42Z")

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people will always want horses… BMW has been trying to kill the manual M5 for a few generations but US marketing has so much pull that they keep forcing them to offer a manual.

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**Author:** ![1QIKZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1qikz/32/6112_2.png) [@1QIKZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1QIKZ)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremy-clarkson-says-manual-transmission-is-dead/271232/28 "2014-12-09T12:51:04Z")

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> [@theblue](#):
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> I think at this point the only thing holding me back from switching from DSG to a manual for my next daily driver is that my girlfriend wouldn’t be able to drive me home from parties when drunk.

Oh yeah, this too. There are rare occasions when I have no choice but to let my wife behind the wheel. I still feel sorry for the poor bastard who bought that Dakota pickup I tried to teach her on.

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**Author:** ![Coldaccord](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/coldaccord/32/7272_2.png) [@Coldaccord](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Coldaccord)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremy-clarkson-says-manual-transmission-is-dead/271232/29 "2014-12-09T13:01:25Z")

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I just sold my m5 because its appeal was daily drivable but fast. For my dd now I want something efficient, it just makes sense. Hoping to daily a Tesla S in the next 5 years or so

I’m looking for an e30m3 now, since IMO petrol cars will only be for nostalgic factor soon, don’t need the practicality of a sedan for a weekend car

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremy-clarkson-says-manual-transmission-is-dead/271232/30 "2014-12-09T13:05:25Z")

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> [@Coldaccord](#):
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> I just sold my m5 because its appeal was daily drivable but fast. For my dd now I want something efficient, it just makes sense. Hoping to daily a Tesla S in the next 5 years or so
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> I’m looking for an e30m3 now, since IMO petrol cars will only be for nostalgic factor soon, don’t need the practicality of a sedan for a weekend car

Define soon?

There are something like 250,000,000+ passenger vehicles on the road in the US and 260,000 all electric cars.

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremy-clarkson-says-manual-transmission-is-dead/271232/31 "2014-12-09T13:16:56Z")

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> [@EvoMR](#):
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> Clarkson is sadly accurate on this. I enjoy my GTR (arguably the best dct car without an unlimited budget) despite it being a 2 pedal, but it’s definitely a drawback and it lacks the fun factor of pretty much any manual transmission out there.

how often do you have it in automatic mode?

i have never once had my M3 in ‘drive’. 100% manual shifting for every kilometer. when my wife drives it she puts it in auto.

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**Author:** ![King](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/king/32/7329_2.png) [@King](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/King)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 1:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremy-clarkson-says-manual-transmission-is-dead/271232/32 "2014-12-09T13:19:03Z")

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> [@theblue](#):
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> I think at this point the only thing holding me back from switching from DSG to a manual for my next daily driver is that my girlfriend wouldn’t be able to drive me home from parties when drunk.

sounds funny - but this is a legit issue haha.

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremy-clarkson-says-manual-transmission-is-dead/271232/33 "2014-12-09T13:22:07Z")

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> [@King](#):
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> porsche eliminated the option on the GT3, yes. On their other cars you can still get a 6MT

The 991 911 Turbo and Turbo S no longer have manual trans, only PDK. I just tried the Porsche configurator - the checkbox next to the PDK “can not be deselected.”

At any rate they “don’t offer a stick in _some_ of their vehicles,” yet, you can get a stick in the Cayenne six… :lol:

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremy-clarkson-says-manual-transmission-is-dead/271232/34 "2014-12-09T13:25:38Z")

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> [@TrueBlue](#):
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> The 991 911 Turbo and Turbo S no longer have manual trans, only PDK. I just tried the Porsche configurator - the checkbox next to the PDK “can not be deselected.”
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> At any rate they “don’t offer a stick in _some_ of their vehicles,” yet, you can get a stick in the Cayenne six… :lol:

Its so weird. and its basically their best performing cars - probably driven by the need to have a consistent competitive nurburgring lap time or something silly.

Also configured a new 535i the other day to potentially replace my 6MT e60 535i - auto only.

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremy-clarkson-says-manual-transmission-is-dead/271232/35 "2014-12-09T13:48:30Z")

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> [@TrueBlue](#):
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> The 991 911 Turbo and Turbo S no longer have manual trans, only PDK. I just tried the Porsche configurator - the checkbox next to the PDK “can not be deselected.”
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> At any rate they “don’t offer a stick in _some_ of their vehicles,” yet, you can get a stick in the Cayenne six… :lol:

1000hp vr6 build? I cant picture a senario where you coyld ever launch that truck and not have gears flying everywhere

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremy-clarkson-says-manual-transmission-is-dead/271232/36 "2014-12-09T14:48:23Z")

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If you prefer auto to stick, you might be gay.

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremy-clarkson-says-manual-transmission-is-dead/271232/37 "2014-12-09T15:26:42Z")

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> [@bing](#):
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> how often do you have it in automatic mode?
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> i have never once had my M3 in ‘drive’. 100% manual shifting for every kilometer. when my wife drives it she puts it in auto.

I leave it in auto until it gets up to temp and in stop and go traffic. Even “full manual” falls way short of a 6mt in the fub department.

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**Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 5:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jeremy-clarkson-says-manual-transmission-is-dead/271232/38 "2014-12-10T05:45:28Z")

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> [@King](#):
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> probably driven by the need to have a consistent competitive nurburgring lap time or something silly.

100% the case. The current autos are so quick and manual sales so low (the US is one of the only prime buyers) that it’s not “worth” engineering in a stick box. ☹

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