# Jesus Rifles!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [January 19, 2010, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jesus-rifles/78404 "2010-01-19T17:35:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![technoticmedia](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/technoticmedia/32/4990_2.png) [@technoticmedia](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/technoticmedia)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jesus-rifles/78404/41 "2010-01-20T15:04:25Z")
> [@theblue](#): > > ec’d a product with specific rules which where broken by the company making the part. If the part said “praise be to Allah” I bet you wouldn’t be ok with it. wrong. trijicon released the acog. government released a rfq for optics. trijicon sent a proposal for the acog. government accepted. As a manufacturer well versed in doing business with the government, its clear that they could have denied the ACOG right in the beginning and chosen an inferior product because of the religious ties to the markings. I don’t know about you, but I’ve had very close friends in the military, and I’d want the absolute best tools that money could buy for them, regardless of what is printed on the side. ---
**Author:** ![97FormulaWS-6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/97formulaws-6/32/7384_2.png) [@97FormulaWS-6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97FormulaWS-6)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jesus-rifles/78404/42 "2010-01-20T15:13:19Z")
> [@theblue](#): > > are you really trying to argue that’s it’s not religious and just a part of the part number now? > > I haven’t read the military code, but the 5-6 news articles I have read all say this was a clear violation of military terms for a contractor to pull this kind of stunt. And your going to believe the Media?!?!?!? I’ve been involved in military projects, read 10000’s of pages of military requirements when it comes to hardware. And there is NOTHING in there regarding religious markings on weapons or any other hardware. And I’m arguing the fact that I could make my Model number SUCKMYCOCKFUCKER and it would meet requirements. Regardless of if the 6 letters and numbers mean something to someone; In all reality go grab a random serial number of letters and numbers off most military hardware and I’m betting you can find ones that just randomly could reference the bible or whatever. Oh, and if he had maybe made it reference a different book of fiction would it then be alright? Maybe something from a Dan Brown novel or Dale Brown, or whomever? ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jesus-rifles/78404/43 "2010-01-20T15:14:39Z")
burnt: you do realize “in god we trust” was added in 1957 because people where scared of communism taking over. (I’m not sure how this helped) tech: those one the military side who violated the rules should be punished if they knew what was going on during the approval process since they violated the rules. 97: say it straight - do you deny that proselytizing is prohibited? obviously I want the best tools, adding religion to the guns doesn’t make them any better and can only hurt for the reasons listed already. ---
**Author:** ![bpipe95](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bpipe95/32/7294_2.png) [@bpipe95](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bpipe95)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jesus-rifles/78404/44 "2010-01-20T15:18:58Z")
> [@theblue](#): > > and I’ll fight for separation of church and state until the day I meet the flying spaghetti monster because our nation was founded by those escaping religious persecution and I consider this as equally important to those who do not want religion imposed upon them by their government. The problem is, “we” the people who left to “escape” religious persecution were the psycho religious whack jobs, not the ones who were happy we left. While I agree with you that we need a larger separation, it is a total up hill battle. ---
**Author:** ![97FormulaWS-6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/97formulaws-6/32/7384_2.png) [@97FormulaWS-6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97FormulaWS-6)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jesus-rifles/78404/45 "2010-01-20T15:23:15Z")
> [@theblue](#): > > 97: say it straight - do you deny that proselytizing is prohibited? That I do. But in saying that. I don’t believe that this was/is that one bit. Weapons makers and makers of every product for generations have put hidden messages, symbols, etc into them. Most computer codes have hidden information placed in them; car parts have things engraved into them people will never see; PCB boards in your cell phones could have something in the way the board was laid out on the inner layers no one would ever know about . What if your Iphone has a Jewish Star of David in it that couldn’t be seen, but was there? Should we then all consider it a Jewish item? therefor pushing religion? Where does it stop?!?!?!? This is where we all need to put our big girl panties on and stop throwing shit fits about little BS and concentrate on things that have a bigger effect on our lives than how one scope mfg wants to assign model numbers to a product he makes. ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jesus-rifles/78404/46 "2010-01-20T15:28:12Z")
it’s not the end of the world, but it’s a problem that should have and could have been avoided. I honestly don’t care if I don’t know - but I do know, and it’s all over the headlines and one more argument for the enemy to use against us. I feel it makes us less safe as a result. ---
**Author:** ![97FormulaWS-6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/97formulaws-6/32/7384_2.png) [@97FormulaWS-6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97FormulaWS-6)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jesus-rifles/78404/47 "2010-01-20T15:31:46Z")
Honestly… the enemy hates us so much… this is just one more thing… at this point I agree with Carlin… It’s a Cock War about who’s cock is bigger and who’s big-guy-in-the-sky is right. Humans… it’s too bad our nature is to destroy ourselfs. ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jesus-rifles/78404/48 "2010-01-20T15:33:28Z")
well obviously the enemy hates us or they wouldn’t be our enemy… but this gets them more supporters so they can do us more harm. and as a last note before I head off to the gym – religious email rick roll FTW: [http://www.viddler.com/explore/failblog/videos/414/](http://www.viddler.com/explore/failblog/videos/414/) ---
**Author:** ![burnt\_toast](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/burnt_toast/32/7518_2.png) [@burnt\_toast](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/burnt_toast)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jesus-rifles/78404/49 "2010-01-20T15:34:55Z")
> [@theblue](#): > > it’s not the end of the world, but it’s a problem that should have and could have been avoided. I honestly don’t care if I don’t know - but I do know, and it’s all over the headlines and one more argument for the enemy to use against us. I feel it makes us less safe as a result. This statement is possibly the most rational thing you’ve said, and does not at all sound like it came from the same person who previously said the following: > [@theblue](#): > > why not just have christian prayer in all schools every morning. I’m sure the others who object can just deal with it. > > :picard: In the end, it’s there, it’s not going to go away nor change the functionality of the weapon. Unfortunately it will only be a big deal from now on because of people that think the way you did in the 2nd quotation, the biggest offender being the media. ---
**Author:** ![Jon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3bc359/32.png) [@Jon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jon)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jesus-rifles/78404/50 "2010-01-20T16:56:01Z")
![http://reconstitution.us/pic/2008/jesusistan_gun.jpg](http://reconstitution.us/pic/2008/jesusistan_gun.jpg) ![http://passtheammo.com/wp-images/jesussittingnra.jpg](http://passtheammo.com/wp-images/jesussittingnra.jpg) ![http://www.buckandmike.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/jesus-with-guns.jpg](http://www.buckandmike.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/jesus-with-guns.jpg) :shrug: ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jesus-rifles/78404/51 "2010-01-21T13:12:41Z")
all gone… > **[No More Jesus Rifles](https://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/jesus-rifles/story?id=9618791)** > > Trijicon, the gunsight maker that has imprinted Bible verse numbers on its scopes, has announced that it will no longer imprint the verses on the sides of scopes intended for the U.S. military, and will also provide clients with the kits to remove... > Trijicon, the gunsight maker that has imprinted Bible verse numbers on its scopes, has announced that it will no longer imprint the verses on the sides of scopes intended for the U.S. military, and will also provide clients with the kits to remove the Bible verse numbers from existing scopes. > Earlier today, Gen. David Petraeus, who commands CentCom, which oversees U.S. forces in Iraq and Afghanistan, told a D.C. thinktank that the company’s practice was “disturbing …and a serious concern for me” and field commanders. He said there had been considerable discussions within the Department of Defense about how to deal with Trijicon’s practice. ---
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 1:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jesus-rifles/78404/52 "2010-01-21T13:19:10Z")
What is disturbing is that this is something people are putting any amount of thought in to… ---
**Author:** ![jt76](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jt76/32/5100_2.png) [@jt76](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jt76)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jesus-rifles/78404/53 "2010-01-21T13:24:43Z")
> [@walter](#): > > What is disturbing is that this is something people are putting any amount of thought in to… I agree. The money, time and energy can be spent in MUCH better ways that will BENEFIT our soldiers in the field. This is bullshit, fuck liberal pussies. ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jesus-rifles/78404/54 "2010-01-21T13:28:54Z")
pretty sure the company who violated the rule is footing the bill. as they should. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jesus-rifles/78404/55 "2010-01-21T13:38:46Z")
> [@walter](#): > > What is disturbing is that this is something people are putting any amount of thought in to… +1 ---
**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jesus-rifles/78404/56 "2010-01-21T13:44:08Z")
> [@Motocrossx23](#): > > We just need to move to Canada. if im gonna move, its gonna be someone warm. I’m thinking barcelona. ---
**Author:** ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jesus-rifles/78404/57 "2010-01-21T21:15:10Z")
> [@walter](#): > > What is disturbing is that this is something people are putting any amount of thought in to… :tfuckingup:. wow. seriously? there are so many other major problems going on and this is what the liberals decide to bitch about? We are soooo fucked. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jesus-rifles/78404.md?page=2)