# Job offer negotiations?

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/job-offer-negotiations/45269>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [March 19, 2008, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/job-offer-negotiations/45269 "2008-03-19T08:53:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2008, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/job-offer-negotiations/45269/21 "2008-03-28T13:07:26Z")

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[quote=“drvnkd,post:19,topic:45269"”]

Counter, counter offer accepted 🙂

I’m pretty sure my present employer will be pissed ☹  
I’m 33% of the engineering staff and the corporate mother ship  
does not replace employees. (not in the last 3 years at lesast)

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Congrats. When do you start?

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**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2008, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/job-offer-negotiations/45269/22 "2008-03-28T13:46:35Z")

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good work.

i learned alot in my last salary negotiation, always reject first offer, leverage others against each other, etc.

i have another salary negotiation in the next month to worry about.

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**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2008, 5:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/job-offer-negotiations/45269/23 "2008-03-29T05:01:53Z")

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I’m not going to work at Moog.  
They have not made any decisions yet.

I Should be starting at Praxair on or around the 14th.

If I play my cards right, I could manage to consult and do  
my old job for a few hours a week and get much more $$.

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**Author:** ![Xander](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xander/32/7597_2.png) [@Xander](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Xander)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2008, 6:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/job-offer-negotiations/45269/24 "2008-03-29T06:52:53Z")

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Congrats! Sounds like you are satisfied with the financial part of your new job.

I’m kinda glad I don’t have to go through this crap anymore. Getting paid Full Commision can work out pretty nicely. The terms are the same for all employees, and you just work your ass off.

x…

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**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2008, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/job-offer-negotiations/45269/25 "2008-03-29T08:12:34Z")

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Its never enough money, but more money along with a  
whole lot of new stuff that I have to learn will be nice.

The main justification for moving is personal growth.

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**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2008, 8:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/job-offer-negotiations/45269/26 "2008-03-29T08:48:49Z")

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[quote=“drvnkd,post:25,topic:45269"”]

**Its never enough money** , but more money along with a  
whole lot of new stuff that I have to learn will be nice.

The main justification for moving is personal growth.

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truth

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2008, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/job-offer-negotiations/45269/27 "2008-03-29T21:49:45Z")

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[quote=“drvnkd,post:25,topic:45269"”]

Its never enough money, but more money along with a  
whole lot of new stuff that I have to learn will be nice.

The main justification for moving is personal growth.

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You’re working with some real engineering icons too. You’ve got a great knowledge base to learn from.

Tim Aaron designed the BASIC OIU in like 1995. Hopefully I’ll be the one to finally replace it with a web server by the end of this year.

Shoot me a message when you start. :tup:

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**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2008, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/job-offer-negotiations/45269/28 "2008-03-31T12:49:07Z")

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LOL @ “So, what would it take for you to stay?”

What number do you have in mind etc…

All I could say was that there was no way I was going to  
give a number because the 1st offer is rejected by default…  
:lol:  
Thanks NYspeed…  
😃

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2008, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/job-offer-negotiations/45269/29 "2008-03-31T12:57:13Z")

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Haha. When I told my boss I was taking a job at Praxair his response was

“Shit, I’m not even going to try and match it. I’m sure it’s better than I can do.”

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**Author:** ![BooSting](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b19c9b/32.png) [@BooSting](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BooSting)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2008, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/job-offer-negotiations/45269/30 "2008-03-31T13:01:22Z")

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Praxiar will NYSpeed’s new Derrick… ?

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2008, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/job-offer-negotiations/45269/31 "2008-03-31T13:10:59Z")

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> [@Fry](#):
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> Haha. When I told my boss I was taking a job at Praxair his response was
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> “Shit, I’m not even going to try and match it. I’m sure it’s better than I can do.”

That was my old jobs initial response…then I was getting progressively larger offers from my boss up until the day I actually left.

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**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2008, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/job-offer-negotiations/45269/32 "2008-03-31T13:12:08Z")

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Taking a counter offer is almost always a bad idea

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**Author:** ![BooSting](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b19c9b/32.png) [@BooSting](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BooSting)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2008, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/job-offer-negotiations/45269/33 "2008-03-31T13:15:13Z")

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> [@93dx--hatch](#):
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> Taking a counter offer is almost always a bad idea

really? why?

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**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2008, 5:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/job-offer-negotiations/45269/34 "2008-04-01T05:14:07Z")

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You have given up the last of your power to your boss.

Now its up to him to let you go when it fits his project work or timeline.

There are always exceptions to the rule, but its a once in a career deal.

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2008, 6:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/job-offer-negotiations/45269/35 "2008-04-01T06:51:58Z")

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So I was just over in R&D looking at the ceramic oxygen membranes they’re playing with. Is that going to be your gig?

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**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2008, 7:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/job-offer-negotiations/45269/36 "2008-04-01T07:14:53Z")

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They kept showing me the steam/methane hydrogen skid.

We walked though the labs to see some of the other stuff.  
The bench top O2, and some ceramic stuff.

That was not Tims project, so he could not expand on it much.  
Rich mentioned that he hopes I stay in that job for a year or two…  
LOL 1000% the opposite of my current boss.

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2008, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/job-offer-negotiations/45269/37 "2008-04-01T08:21:18Z")

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OT:i always read your username as drunkD

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**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2008, 8:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/job-offer-negotiations/45269/38 "2008-04-01T08:54:08Z")

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lol  
drv nkd seemed funnier 7 years ago.

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**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 3:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/job-offer-negotiations/45269/39 "2008-04-10T03:19:46Z")

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Fail.  
Lesson: Get detailed medical plan info early. (If you care about such things)

ex. my projected medical expenses will more than negate my increase in salary.  
80% after the deductible is not good coverage for a family :(.

I will miss my $35 copays that as of yesterday morning I thought were terrible.  
The info I was given was only on the premiums, I ASSUMED that it was going to be better that my current coverage.

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**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 7:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/job-offer-negotiations/45269/40 "2008-04-24T07:53:01Z")

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So… my old boss wants me to go back on saturday mornings for just over 2x my old base rate.

Do I still reject the 1st offer.  
an extra $200/week would really help my suckage.

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