# job sites **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [June 16, 2010, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/job-sites/252737 "2010-06-16T19:17:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 32
**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilya/32/6404_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 10:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/job-sites/252737/32 "2010-06-17T10:25:14Z")
> [@4th Annual Southtown's Scavenger Hunt - Saturday September 8th, 2007](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4th-annual-southtowns-scavenger-hunt-saturday-september-8th-2007/32456/41): > > Grade 14 and 18 ITS and ITS2 tests are actually continuous recruitment and not really a test, but more of a questionnaire of your skill set. There is no Data Comm specific title either. They only really require minimum experience and a degree. If I remember correctly, you rate your experience in a particular field/area/task, and when an agency wants to fill an 18, they fill out a form that is sent to Civil Service with the requirements they have for that position, then Civil Service generates a list scoring people based on their requirements and sends it back to the agency. Then the hiring process takes place. > > What they don’t tell you Ilya is with those 23 tests, you are put on an open competitive list, which won’t get touched until the promotional lists are exhausted. They do hire occasionally from it, but not all that often (and especially not now with the hiring freeze/potential for layoffs). Also, for the project management/supervision stuff, you need to think like a state worker and not use common sense. I nearly failed the 23 test because I used common sense on those parts. There are review classes out there that help, though they won’t be offering the 23 test for another 4 years. I did it for the hell of it. I’m pretty happy where I’m at, and yeah that sounds right about the way they do the tests. That’s how my brother explained it. And that bit about thinking like a state worker is funny. I probably failed then lol. If I don’t get into the state for a couple of years, that’s fine. My company has been good to me, but if you don’t keep your eye out on what’s out there you tend to miss things and miss out on opportunities. Unlike many Americans, I got a raise this year and have slowly been moving up. Can’t complain. Although I wish I didn’t have to deal with orders from the enterprise managers in another state who’ve never even seen me. That’s the only down fall right now lol. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/job-sites/252737)._