# job sites **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [June 16, 2010, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/job-sites/252737 "2010-06-16T19:17:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 68
**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilya/32/6404_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/job-sites/252737/68 "2010-06-18T13:37:34Z")
> [@My New Toy](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/my-new-toy/32808/16): > > Lazy union workers? You sir have no clue what your talking about. Union guys are not the people you see on the side of the road grouped up holding shovels and drinking cofee. They’re state workers. I work my ass off for the money I make. Get no paid holidays, sick days, vacation time or anything of the sort. If I don’t work I don’t get paid.What do you do? I’m sure you work long hours and put a lot of effort in at you computer chair, and I respect that. You went to college to not have to do manual labor. But do not call people lazy when you have no idea what they go through for their paycheck. I would like to see you come work with me for a week. I doubt you would be able to. So I think you should respect the people who build and repair the buildings you live in, roads you drive on and houses you live in. Because you sound like a snob. Not sure if you were referring to me but I didn’t mean to offend you or anyone. See below. My dad works in a union. Actually, I think you’re the member who works in the same union. I think what the other guys were referring to (with construction workers) was that they are unionized (the road crews - mostly all state workers belong to some union). At least that’s what I was getting at. There is obviously exceptions to the rule, you and my dad being two of them. But the generalization is that state workers and many unionized laborers are sometimes a waste of money. Heck, even some contractors are. And like someone above said…there is usually some truth to stereotypes. So maybe you’re an exception. Maybe my dad is. But what about some other people? That being said, isn’t the point of a union to get better benefits for their members? My parents use my mom’s insurance for healthcare, etc. because my dads union insurance is a POS. That’s not good. Not to mention he is laid off half the year, every year. I’m always telling him to leave the union and get a job in the private sector somewhere because with his talent for stone work and general handy-man-liness (is that a new word?) he could definitely get some nice work, but he says if he leaves now he loses out on some stuff since he’s so close to retirement. That’s retarded. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/job-sites/252737)._